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Message 1494126 - Posted: 23 Mar 2014, 20:00:27 UTC

I find this attempt to deny women their rights under British Law, by the Sharia Moslem's to impose their religious laws contemptuous. Sharia law in UK: calls for Parliamentary inquiry
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Message 1494131 - Posted: 23 Mar 2014, 20:06:55 UTC - in response to Message 1494126.  

I find this attempt to deny women their rights under British Law, by the Sharia Moslem's to impose their religious laws contemptuous. Sharia law in UK: calls for Parliamentary inquiry


I get caught up in this nearly every day, and there are times that it really becomes annoying.

I've managed to get my customers to stop talking about politics and religion by the simple answer: -

Yes, I'll vote for Sharia Law. The moment it is in effect, I'll chop off your son's hand for stealing my mobile (this actually happened Nov 2008).

Since then, no more awkward questions. For Sharia Law to take effect, all aspects of it must be implemented, not just the bits that favour them!
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Message 1494211 - Posted: 23 Mar 2014, 22:07:27 UTC - in response to Message 1494206.  

Sharia law should be made illegal in the UK. We do not wish to abide by those rules here. If you do, then your choice, but please go and live somewhere else.


But wasn't it your beloved muppets in Westminster that opened the floodgates?
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Message 1494219 - Posted: 23 Mar 2014, 22:25:14 UTC - in response to Message 1494206.  

Sharia law should be made illegal in the UK. We do not wish to abide by those rules here. If you do, then your choice, but please go and live somewhere else.

There was a push here for Sharia Law, but it seemed to have died a quiet death.

Personally (and I may get some flack here) I find it barbaric, demeaning (especially for women) and it should be banned world wide.

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Message 1494222 - Posted: 23 Mar 2014, 22:29:51 UTC - in response to Message 1494219.  

+1

Don't forget though, that this country is so riddled with the PC attitude, anyone say anything against that attitude gets labelled either a bolshie or anarchist.
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Message 1494228 - Posted: 23 Mar 2014, 22:48:25 UTC - in response to Message 1494225.  

Totally agree and a nice sentiment.

However...it just does not jibe with this......

Sharia law should be made illegal in the UK. We do not wish to abide by those rules here. If you do, then your choice, but please go and live somewhere else.

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Message 1494247 - Posted: 23 Mar 2014, 23:30:31 UTC

Yes, regrettably that's true Chris, but that doesn't mean that it can't be on my wishlist. ;-)

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Message 1494460 - Posted: 24 Mar 2014, 12:37:35 UTC - in response to Message 1494378.  

And in most Western countries it is illegal to penalise people for their religion and religious beliefs.

Unless it conflicts with any existing law, that seems a fairly obvious clause.
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Message 1495175 - Posted: 25 Mar 2014, 20:01:30 UTC

I've been wondering what that thread title means actually:)
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Message 1495256 - Posted: 25 Mar 2014, 22:09:10 UTC

Talking about Taliban style of government US supreme court hears arguments on Obamacare contraception provision

Don't you just love it when religion gets to dictate what healthcare women are entitled to?
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Message 1495265 - Posted: 25 Mar 2014, 22:23:25 UTC - in response to Message 1495256.  

Talking about Taliban style of government US supreme court hears arguments on Obamacare contraception provision

Don't you just love it when religion gets to dictate what healthcare women are entitled to?

Bloody ridiculous if you ask me.

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Message 1495281 - Posted: 25 Mar 2014, 22:45:14 UTC

This is a nasty little story about bigotry: Little Girl Taken Out Of Christian School After Told She's Too Much Like A Boy
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Message 1495288 - Posted: 25 Mar 2014, 22:57:25 UTC

Keeping on the sicking subjects try this 1.

http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/538454/20140212/child-marriage-nsw-australia-sex-abuse.htm#.UzIISYVmNqI

The marriage between a 26-year-old man and a 12-year-old girl consented by father.

More investigations going on as this may not be the only case.

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Message 1495392 - Posted: 26 Mar 2014, 3:22:42 UTC - in response to Message 1495281.  

This is a nasty little story about bigotry: Little Girl Taken Out Of Christian School After Told She's Too Much Like A Boy


To start, I must say that I do not agree with this. I have a daughter that will be 2 years old in a couple of weeks. To save money, I will sometimes dress her in hand-me-down clothes from her older brothers. Very frequently, when I am out shopping with her, someone will ask me how old my little boy is. I have to correct them and say my daughter is almost 2.

That said, this was not a public school. This was a private school. Frequently, they will have restrictions on the students well beyond what a public school has.

This is a religious private school. It is to be expected that they will require at least some level of conformance with their religious beliefs. The little girl's parents or guardians no doubt had to agree (by signature) to this when the little girl was enrolled.

There are passages in the Christian Bible that state that each of the two genders should not wear clothes or have hair length that belong to the other. I am not debating the rightness or wrongness of these passages, I merely am stating that they are there.

You condemn as bigotry the religious school's desire not to have a person enrolled that does not conform, at least outwardly, to their particular belief system.

Is it possible that you yourself might be a little bigoted in your condemnation of a religious belief that has been in place for the better part of 2000 years and been held by a great many people?

In another thread, you are discussing a list of characteristics of a civilized society. Perhaps one needs to add tolerance of other people's beliefs to said list.
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Message 1495393 - Posted: 26 Mar 2014, 3:24:00 UTC - in response to Message 1495392.  
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This is a nasty little story about bigotry: Little Girl Taken Out Of Christian School After Told She's Too Much Like A Boy


To start, I must say that I do not agree with this. I have a daughter that will be 2 years old in a couple of weeks. To save money, I will sometimes dress her in hand-me-down clothes from her older brothers. Very frequently, when I am out shopping with her, someone will ask me how old my little boy is. I have to correct them and say my daughter is almost 2.

That said, this was not a public school. This was a private school. Frequently, they will have restrictions on the students well beyond what a public school has.

This is a religious private school. It is to be expected that they will require at least some level of conformance with their religious beliefs. The little girl's parents or guardians no doubt had to agree (by signature) to this when the little girl was enrolled.

There are passages in the Christian Bible that state that each of the two genders should not wear clothes or have hair length that belong to the other. I am not debating the rightness or wrongness of these passages, I merely am stating that they are there.

You condemn as bigotry the religious school's desire not to have a person enrolled that does not conform, at least outwardly, to their particular belief system.

Is it possible that you yourself might be a little bigoted in your condemnation of a religious belief that has been in place for the better part of 2000 years and been held by a great many people?

In another thread, you are discussing a list of characteristics of a civilized society. Perhaps one needs to add tolerance of other people's beliefs to said list.

I absolutely condemn bigotry, and religion is no excuse although it is often used for one.
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Message 1495491 - Posted: 26 Mar 2014, 9:10:01 UTC - in response to Message 1495392.  

To start, I must say that I do not agree with this. I have a daughter that will be 2 years old in a couple of weeks. To save money, I will sometimes dress her in hand-me-down clothes from her older brothers. Very frequently, when I am out shopping with her, someone will ask me how old my little boy is. I have to correct them and say my daughter is almost 2.

That said, this was not a public school. This was a private school. Frequently, they will have restrictions on the students well beyond what a public school has.

This is a religious private school. It is to be expected that they will require at least some level of conformance with their religious beliefs. The little girl's parents or guardians no doubt had to agree (by signature) to this when the little girl was enrolled.

There are passages in the Christian Bible that state that each of the two genders should not wear clothes or have hair length that belong to the other. I am not debating the rightness or wrongness of these passages, I merely am stating that they are there.

You condemn as bigotry the religious school's desire not to have a person enrolled that does not conform, at least outwardly, to their particular belief system.

I agree, this is a private school, the whole point of private schools is that they can have ridiculous rules like this. That is why you enroll your child with such a school in the first place, and by enrolling your child with such a school you do give them approval to uphold your child to certain standards which can include standards on whether you behave according to certain gender norms. Is that a good thing? No, definitely not. But, if you think that, don't send your child to such a private school. Find another private school with a different philosophy or go to a public school.

Oh, and having freedom of religion does actually mean that within religious institutions, religion defines what behavior one must conform to, as long as it does not get imposed on people. That means that yes, within a church or a religious private school you can be as horribly sexist or racist as you want, as long as you can quote a relevant bible verse and say religion makes you do it. It of course also makes you a horrible person, but that is kind of the point of having freedom.
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Message 1495510 - Posted: 26 Mar 2014, 10:09:10 UTC - in response to Message 1495256.  

Talking about Taliban style of government US supreme court hears arguments on Obamacare contraception provision

Don't you just love it when religion gets to dictate what healthcare women are entitled to?


The central question to be debated over 90 minutes of oral arguments on Tuesday is whether for-profit corporations must provide insurance coverage for all contraceptions at no cost as the act requires, even if the corporation's owners object on religious grounds.

Yes! Next.

I agree, it's a silly state of affairs.
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Message 1495546 - Posted: 26 Mar 2014, 11:41:31 UTC - in response to Message 1495281.  

This is a nasty little story about bigotry: Little Girl Taken Out Of Christian School After Told She's Too Much Like A Boy


"You're probably aware that Timberlake Christian School is a religious, Bible believing institution providing education in a distinctly Christian environment," read Doris from a part of the letter.

Then i refer the school to the following from Timothy 2:12:
"I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man. She must be quiet."
I trust they employ only male teachers.
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Message 1495555 - Posted: 26 Mar 2014, 13:15:44 UTC

"I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man. She must be quiet."


Grrrrr...stay calm Julie...just stay calm.....

Modern industrial countries don't have that policy (anymore). Thank God for that! Although women still have difficulties to get the same treatment men do. You have to have a big mouth and 'balls of steel' to get somewhere as a woman...
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Message 1495557 - Posted: 26 Mar 2014, 13:20:02 UTC - in response to Message 1495555.  
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"I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man. She must be quiet."


Grrrrr...stay calm Julie...just stay calm.....

Modern industrial countries don't have that policy (anymore). Thank God for that! Although women still have difficulties to get the same treatment men do. You have to have a big mouth and 'balls of steel' to get somewhere as a woman...


..and that's the one thing that pee's me off! Women are okay for pleasure and for bringing us into the world, but not good enough to command or run business'es? B/S!

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And in over 40 years of work, the best bosses I ever had were women. Doesn't say a lot about male bosses does it?
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