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Message 1332522 - Posted: 29 Jan 2013, 15:33:39 UTC - in response to Message 1332520.  

I don't seem to be able to upload tasks or get any at the moment.

I know it's Tuesday AM over in Cali, but isn't it too early for the server to be down?

I guess it's good I just bumped up my caches yesterday.

Servers crashed last night. Bookmark the Cricket graph for future reference.
Hopefully they'll be back up later today after the usual maintenance outage.

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Message 1332532 - Posted: 29 Jan 2013, 16:24:47 UTC - in response to Message 1331704.  

Good to see I am not the only "old timer" still patiently crunching.
Altho with SETI being a bit squiffy I am afriad I have switched most of my CPU time to World Community Grid for the time being.
Now that explains why WCG went tits up yesterday as well... <LOL> (well, actually a rather sad situation)

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Message 1332536 - Posted: 29 Jan 2013, 16:33:52 UTC - in response to Message 1332532.  

Good to see I am not the only "old timer" still patiently crunching.
Altho with SETI being a bit squiffy I am afriad I have switched most of my CPU time to World Community Grid for the time being.
Now that explains why WCG went tits up yesterday as well... <LOL> (well, actually a rather sad situation)

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Actually, my CPUs are still all crunching Seti. It's the GPUs that quickly ran out and are now idling until the servers come back online. I sometimes run Einstein as a backup, but for now the kitties will just wait it out on standby.
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Message 1332580 - Posted: 29 Jan 2013, 22:48:44 UTC - in response to Message 1332522.  

I don't seem to be able to upload tasks or get any at the moment.

I know it's Tuesday AM over in Cali, but isn't it too early for the server to be down?

I guess it's good I just bumped up my caches yesterday.

Servers crashed last night. Bookmark the Cricket graph for future reference.
Hopefully they'll be back up later today after the usual maintenance outage.

Thanks and thanks!

Bookmark the server status page while you're at it, and pay special attention to the [As of xxx] time in the top-left corner.

And since 'ready to send' was below high water mark when the page froze, and the splitters were running, we'll probably have a big bloat of tasks to work off when things are working again.

Now -

Results ready to send:1,444,950
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Message 1332586 - Posted: 29 Jan 2013, 23:12:01 UTC - in response to Message 1332580.  

Results ready to send:1,444,950

AND

30.01.2013 00:01:01 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
30.01.2013 00:01:01 | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available

SORRY! But messages like this only put more confusion to the user's brain than anything else does! Or is it because of my bad English?
When I started with SETI June 16th 1999 (my first account), I thought SETI would be easy understanding and it would not need a lot of button-pushing.
No it's confusing (see above) and my retry-button is almost kaput!
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Message 1332598 - Posted: 30 Jan 2013, 0:16:31 UTC - in response to Message 1332359.  

Been not watching closely over the traditional Australia Day long weekend chaos, and my machines were crunching when I looked occasionally. If I had stuck transfers I just put this retryMainTransfers.cmd in my scheduled tasks for every 20 mins or so:

@ECHO OFF
boinccmd --get_file_transfers > mainxfers.txt
FOR /F "tokens=1,2" %%i IN (mainxfers.txt) DO (
 IF "%%i" EQU "name:" echo %%j
 IF "%%i" EQU "name:" boinccmd --file_transfer http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/ %%j retry
)

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Message 1332636 - Posted: 30 Jan 2013, 3:06:43 UTC - in response to Message 1332586.  

Results ready to send:1,444,950

AND

30.01.2013 00:01:01 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
30.01.2013 00:01:01 | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available

SORRY! But messages like this only put more confusion to the user's brain than anything else does! Or is it because of my bad English?
When I started with SETI June 16th 1999 (my first account), I thought SETI would be easy understanding and it would not need a lot of button-pushing.
No it's confusing (see above) and my retry-button is almost kaput!


...Every Tuesday morning (Pacific time) we begin a four hour data distribution outage for database and systems maintenance. The upload/download servers will be offline during this time. Afterwards you may experience connectivity issues for several more hours as the servers catch up with demand. 15 Jan 2013, 17:39:39 UTC

This is nothing new...
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Message 1332639 - Posted: 30 Jan 2013, 3:17:29 UTC - in response to Message 1332636.  

Results ready to send:1,444,950

AND

30.01.2013 00:01:01 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
30.01.2013 00:01:01 | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available

SORRY! But messages like this only put more confusion to the user's brain than anything else does! Or is it because of my bad English?
When I started with SETI June 16th 1999 (my first account), I thought SETI would be easy understanding and it would not need a lot of button-pushing.
No it's confusing (see above) and my retry-button is almost kaput!


...Every Tuesday morning (Pacific time) we begin a four hour data distribution outage for database and systems maintenance. The upload/download servers will be offline during this time. Afterwards you may experience connectivity issues for several more hours as the servers catch up with demand. 15 Jan 2013, 17:39:39 UTC

This is nothing new...

You are correct, Ex, that this is nothing new, but it is happening after I downloaded some work, and while the Server Status page shows 1.4 million "Results" ready to send. It is still confusing and misleading to send a message that there is no work available when so much is shown on the Status page. (And I've been here a while, too.)
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Message 1332642 - Posted: 30 Jan 2013, 3:21:23 UTC
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I like whatever got fixed during today's maintenance (if that even happened).

For the past few hours, every scheduler contact attempt results in a reply within 3 seconds, and I've been getting a lot of "got 1 new tasks" to go with them, and the AP starts to download, and goes through completion without a single hiccup at 10-15KB/sec. This is more like it.

Oh.. maybe that's because I still have a proxy enabled. Oops. Weird though, because the last time I was using a proxy, I would get HTTP error 417 for scheduler requests, and uploads wouldn't even go through, but everything is working perfectly with this proxy. Weird.


Also.. Holy Ready to Send buffer..

[As of 30 Jan 2013, 3:20:09 UTC]
Results ready to send  1,162,432  12,917 0m

Linux laptop:
record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up)
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Message 1332686 - Posted: 30 Jan 2013, 7:10:10 UTC - in response to Message 1332642.  


AP waiting to validate & assimilate have cleared, the Scheduler is working & the huge Ready to Send buffer is rapidly shrinking down to a more normal size.
*fingers crossed*
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Message 1332689 - Posted: 30 Jan 2013, 7:20:10 UTC - in response to Message 1332639.  


You are correct, Ex, that this is nothing new, but it is happening after I downloaded some work, and while the Server Status page shows 1.4 million "Results" ready to send. It is still confusing and misleading to send a message that there is no work available when so much is shown on the Status page. (And I've been here a while, too.)


The message about "no work available" is certainly confusing, but its a standard message. The work is sent out in small batches of 100, once a batch has been assigned there is a short pause, and if you request work during that pause you get the message about "no work available". Confusing, but correct.
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Message 1332690 - Posted: 30 Jan 2013, 7:25:55 UTC
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Actually, it is 200, and I don't know if it is still every 2 seconds or not. Used to be 100 every 2 seconds for the feeder. If it runs out before the next refill interval, you get "no work available." Mayhaps it should be updated to say "project has no work available at the moment."


Also, it looks like MB is about to run out of tapes to split. I think it would be an interesting experiment to run with AP-only for a day or two to see how Cricket looks. It will probably just stay maxed out though. MB-only just about fills it when the limits are not enforced.
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Message 1332692 - Posted: 30 Jan 2013, 7:33:14 UTC - in response to Message 1332690.  


Probably tempting fate here, but even though downloads are as crappy as they have ever been, and it was a longer than usual outage, the Scheduler responses are coming through within 5 seconds in most cases.
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Message 1332693 - Posted: 30 Jan 2013, 7:35:35 UTC - in response to Message 1332690.  

Also, it looks like MB is about to run out of tapes to split.

Will probably last for a while as there is only on MB splitter that is alive at the moment. But it probably won't be long before it is needed- that huge Ready to Send buffer is shrinking rapidly.

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Message 1332819 - Posted: 30 Jan 2013, 15:41:08 UTC


Hello folks,

What is the limit for a VLAR task ?
I received a number of tasks that take much longer than usual on my GPU.
Angle for these tasks seems to be 0.125883

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2816144089

Are VLAR tasks being sent to GPU or are these tasks just closer to the limit than anything I have seen before ?

Tom

P.S. Sorry I posted this in the wrong thread first

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Message 1332834 - Posted: 30 Jan 2013, 16:48:47 UTC

Do you mean an angular limit or an execution time limit?
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Message 1332839 - Posted: 30 Jan 2013, 16:58:04 UTC - in response to Message 1332834.  

Do you mean an angular limit or an execution time limit?


I mean the angle. I didn't know there was a difference in handling execution time between VLAR and non-VLAR tasks. I thought the maximum execution time was always the estimated time multiplied by a constant (although I forgot the value of the constant).

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Message 1332876 - Posted: 30 Jan 2013, 18:07:30 UTC - in response to Message 1332839.  

Do you mean an angular limit or an execution time limit?


I mean the angle. I didn't know there was a difference in handling execution time between VLAR and non-VLAR tasks. I thought the maximum execution time was always the estimated time multiplied by a constant (although I forgot the value of the constant).

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MB tasks with AR < 0.120000 get the .vlar extension.

Maximum execution time is indeed directly related to the raw estimate, a 10x multiple. However, the raw estimate is multiplied by Duration Correction Factor to give the actual estimate but the time limit does not use DCF.
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Message 1333489 - Posted: 1 Feb 2013, 10:02:29 UTC

The thin blue line on Cricket is heading south. More reporting problems. I'm sure it will all be fixed when they get in for work but this could be ominous coming before the weekend.

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Message 1333490 - Posted: 1 Feb 2013, 10:07:35 UTC
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Data Out on the Cricket Graph has dropped almost to the floor, and scheduler contacts now can't connect to reference site.

Graphs for gigabitethernet2_3

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