Panic Mode On (80) Server Problems?

That`s it, I`m done.....going to dump all the wu`s and go to the other project. I thought Seti finally got their crap together, but apparently I was wrong!!!! Goodbye Seti

Greetings,

Ok, here's my thing:

The way I understood what BOINC was, back in 04, was that it was an application to 'set-n-forget', right? Right. Well, since I re-started crunching SETI in December or November last year, BOINC has been anything but 'set-n-forget'. Observe:

WUs do not download to my PC automagically. Uploads do go automagically. Finished WUs do not report automagically (please refer to first statement in this paragraph). The only way for the finished WUs to be reported and to download new WUs is to manually hit the "Update" button. I will report anywhere from 10 to 50, or more, WUs and download an equal number after hitting the button, scheduler cooperation notwithstanding.

This to me is not very 'set-n-forget'. :(

I am also running FreeHAL@home and Asteroids@home as backup for when SETI is hosed for whatever reason. FreeHAL runs automagically, Asteroids does sometimes. I do manually report Asteroids on occasion, but I do seem to download automagically. FreeHAL is truly automagic, I very, very seldom ever have to manually update FreeHAL.

With all the above said, it does seem to me to be a software 'problem' with SETI. My better half's BOINC is doing the same thing on her PC. More on her's below...

Oh, and here's another thing too. When I report, my Event log tells me that it is reporting so many WUs and requesting more. My better half's BOINC is not doing the same. Her log will say that BOINC is not requesting more WUs. Every time. She is lucky to get WUs at all. I just built her PC which is a newer generation Intel i7 3770 than mine is. Even with on board video she can out do my RAC, when she gets the work that is. I have compared her BOINC settings to mine and they are virtually identical. What gives?

By the way, I agree with Mark, SETI needs to loosen their restrictions on us.

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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CMDR Siran d'Vel'nahr XO
USS Vre'kasht NCC-33187

Siran's website: [ ONLINE! ]

Is anyone successfully using a proxy? I was getting good results until 3 days ago. Now I cannot connect at all with a proxy and have tried a lot of different ones.

Frank

Things are a bit frustrating right now, thinking the project needs to setup a second scheduler on another server and load balance between them. If i remember correctly BOINC does support doing this.

Greetings,

Ok, here's my thing:

The way I understood what BOINC was, back in 04, was that it was an application to 'set-n-forget', right? Right. Well, since I re-started crunching SETI in December or November last year, BOINC has been anything but 'set-n-forget'. Observe:

WUs do not download to my PC automagically. Uploads do go automagically. Finished WUs do not report automagically (please refer to first statement in this paragraph). The only way for the finished WUs to be reported and to download new WUs is to manually hit the "Update" button. I will report anywhere from 10 to 50, or more, WUs and download an equal number after hitting the button, scheduler cooperation notwithstanding.

This to me is not very 'set-n-forget'. :(

I must be one of the extremely lucky ones as I have 50 D/Ls that have been trying to come down the pike over night. I am now force feeding the machine to get them on board. My fastest machine is down to 42 tasks and that won't last through the day unless I suspend processing for a couple of hours and try to connect again.
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I don't buy computers, I build them!!

Greetings,

Ok, here's my thing:

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This to me is not very 'set-n-forget'. :(

What cache settings are you using? Sounds as if you're still running Boinc 6 Cache settings.

With Boinc 7 it'll wait until it's below the 'Minimum work buffer' ('Maintain enough tasks to keep busy for at least' on the Setiathome computing preferences page) before asking for work again to save on scheduler contacts.

Claggy

Greetings,

Ok, here's my thing:

-[ snip ]-

This to me is not very 'set-n-forget'. :(

What cache settings are you using? Sounds as if you're still running Boinc 6 Cache settings.

With Boinc 7 it'll wait until it's below the 'Minimum work buffer' ('Maintain enough tasks to keep busy for at least' on the Setiathome computing preferences page) before asking for work again to save on scheduler contacts.

Claggy

Greetings Claggy,

Ok, I changed my minimum setting. For whatever reason it was set to 0.1, it's been there for like, forever. :/ I changed it to 5. So, that should change the way BOINC communicates with the server(s). Thanks! :)

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

I must be one of the extremely lucky ones as I have 50 D/Ls that have been trying to come down the pike over night. I am now force feeding the machine to get them on board.

Greetings,

Ok, here's my thing:

-[ snip ]-

This to me is not very 'set-n-forget'. :(

-[ snip ]-

Claggy

Greetings Claggy,

Ok, I changed my minimum setting. For whatever reason it was set to 0.1, it's been there for like, forever. :/ I changed it to 5. So, that should change the way BOINC communicates with the server(s). Thanks! :)

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

Make sure you also set the '... and up to an additional' setting to a low value, say 0.01,
If you have cache setting of 5 + 5 days, Boinc will fill up to 10 days work, then not ask again until it drops below 5 days,

Claggy

I've been getting loads of resends all day on my newest cruncher.
They are taking ages to get through, but the number of tasks visibly downloading or resident is now nearer the number that the website thinks are "resident" on that cruncher, so we might be getting towards the end of a retry storm (of shorties)
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Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?

The more modern BOINC versions are very bad at using very long delays.
Given that the top crunchers are capable of rattling through tasks at over 1 per minute these big delays are counter productive. By the time the delay has worked its way trough there are several more tasks to be reported, and more tasks being demanded. Short delays, and clearing out part-downloads in preference to un-started would all help get rid of the backlog, probably reduce the re-try rate and so ease the burden on the servers. As it is it's I would say the scheduler is set up in such a way as to generate queues not prevent them.
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Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?