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tbret Send message Joined: 28 May 99 Posts: 3380 Credit: 296,162,071 RAC: 40 |
Bernie, I don't know what to suggest except that you either read what I wrote and accept that I used my words correctly, or that you just be insulted or offended all over the place. I said that "I fear," meaning that I am afraid of that, not that I have evidence of that. I fear one of my children may die before me, because I would find that a traumatic event. In a similar, but far, far less important way, I would hate to learn that the guys in the lab don't care. I'm hardly a coward. My word choice was not a clever way of saying something without saying it. If I meant, "The guys in the lab at SETI don't care about this project anymore since they are busy with their high-speed spectrometer and other data they've recently acquired from Green Bank," I would have no problem, at all, saying that, on the record, right here. If I held that opinion, it certainly wouldn't be pointed at, or meant to offend, or insult, you. That isn't even what I said. Read it again with a different inflection. Perhaps we are having a U.S. vs. U.K. usage of words problem? "and insult" to whom, Bernie? |
tbret Send message Joined: 28 May 99 Posts: 3380 Credit: 296,162,071 RAC: 40 |
That they've gone to the effort to inform the fund raisers of their requirements would indicate to most people that they do care. Hey Grant, I may know more about that than you do, and it's entirely possible that I was the very first person to contribute to that fundraiser and made the first public plea for others to do likewise --- before it was even announced. BUT, I don't need, or appreciate, you or anyone else putting words in my mouth. The word is "fear" and denotes anxiety. If I need someone to tell me what I meant, I'll be sure to call for help. |
Mark Lybeck Send message Joined: 9 Aug 99 Posts: 245 Credit: 216,677,290 RAC: 173 |
Very close to 3 minute TCP timeout for scheduler. The Scheduler transactions seems to take some time again: 12/01/2013 10:17:20 | SETI@home | update requested by user 12/01/2013 10:17:24 | SETI@home | [sched_op] Starting scheduler request 12/01/2013 10:17:24 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. 12/01/2013 10:17:24 | SETI@home | Reporting 36 completed tasks, not requesting new tasks 12/01/2013 10:17:24 | SETI@home | [sched_op] CPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices 12/01/2013 10:17:24 | SETI@home | [sched_op] NVIDIA work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices 12/01/2013 10:17:47 | SETI@home | Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server 12/01/2013 10:17:47 | SETI@home | [sched_op] Deferring communication for 3 hr 3 min 49 sec 12/01/2013 10:17:47 | SETI@home | [sched_op] Reason: Scheduler request failed 12/01/2013 10:17:57 | SETI@home | work fetch resumed by user 12/01/2013 10:36:51 | SETI@home | update requested by user 12/01/2013 10:36:55 | SETI@home | [sched_op] Starting scheduler request 12/01/2013 10:36:55 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. 12/01/2013 10:36:55 | SETI@home | Reporting 36 completed tasks, requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA 12/01/2013 10:36:55 | SETI@home | [sched_op] CPU work request: 202266.66 seconds; 0.00 devices 12/01/2013 10:36:55 | SETI@home | [sched_op] NVIDIA work request: 224640.00 seconds; 2.00 devices 12/01/2013 10:39:50 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 128 new tasks 12/01/2013 10:39:50 | SETI@home | [sched_op] Server version 701 12/01/2013 10:39:50 | SETI@home | Project requested delay of 303 seconds 12/01/2013 10:39:50 | SETI@home | [sched_op] estimated total CPU task duration: 206174 seconds 12/01/2013 10:39:50 | SETI@home | [sched_op] estimated total NVIDIA task duration: 88822 seconds |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13727 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
BUT, I don't need, or appreciate, you or anyone else putting words in my mouth. I didn't put any words there, i used the exact words you posted. I did say my "fear" is that nobody cares, and by "nobody" I meant anyone who could do anything about server issues. right from the post you made- http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=70431&postid=1326112 I said that "I fear," meaning that I am afraid of that, not that I have evidence of that. The only reason to fear something as you describe it there, is because you consider it possible. No, you didn't come out & say out right that they don't care, you just implied it. If I need someone to tell me what I meant, I'll be sure to call for help. I have no idea what you meant, i can only go by what you post & what you posted implies that those running the project don't care about the issues they are having. Grant Darwin NT |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14650 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
The only reason to fear something as you describe it there, is because you consider it possible. ... what you posted implies that those running the project don't care about the issues they are having. Non sequitur. Saying something is possible doesn't turn it into a certainty. "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth" (Sherlock Holmes). But that doesn't apply here - there are a lot more possibilities left than the highly unlikely one that the project staff don't care, as evidenced by Matt's New Year post. |
Sutaru Tsureku Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 7105 Credit: 147,663,825 RAC: 5 |
[panic on] Last well scheduler server contact at 12 Jan 2013, 12:34:52 UTC. Since then: Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server Scheduler request failed: Failure when receiving data from the peer [/panic on] [panic off] Just now.. - OK, at 14:14 UTC again contact. ;-) [/panic off] [EDIT: [panic on] It was just one well contact since then again .. Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server [/panic on]] * Best regards! :-) * Sutaru Tsureku, team seti.international founder. * Optimize your PC for higher RAC. * SETI@home needs your help. * |
Fred E. Send message Joined: 22 Jul 99 Posts: 768 Credit: 24,140,697 RAC: 0 |
No work or scheduler connects for over 24 hours now per BOINCTasks. Have been out of gpu work for about 18 hours, crunching Einstein on zero resource share to stay busy. I'm puzzled by the Cricket Graph. It still shows downloads are maxxed out, saying that many are getting work. Is this another issue like the old HE conncection issue where only certain computers or IP addresses are blocked? Another Fred Support SETI@home when you search the Web with GoodSearch or shop online with GoodShop. |
Tom* Send message Joined: 12 Aug 11 Posts: 127 Credit: 20,769,223 RAC: 9 |
Finally got thru - logjam is slightly abating as the incoming traffic has finally made it above 10 Cur: 10.12 Mbits/sec First Contact in over 24 hours with or without proxy. lost tasks were mostly shorties funny thing was I got one of those red BOINC messages saying I lost contact with the internet during the request that finally made it thru?? |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
Im just going to let my machines go to other projects. two allready are, One still has work for maybe 8 hours. They are going to shut down for maintenace anyway so im not going to fight an uphill battle trying to get work. [/quote] Old James |
.clair. Send message Joined: 4 Nov 04 Posts: 1300 Credit: 55,390,408 RAC: 69 |
if i could download as many work units as i have `scheduler list` and `master file` i would be crunching fine :(( All i am getting is:- 12/01/2013 17:01:47 | SETI@home | Fetching scheduler list 12/01/2013 17:01:49 | SETI@home | Master file download succeeded 12/01/2013 17:01:55 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To report completed tasks. 12/01/2013 17:01:55 | SETI@home | Reporting 100 completed tasks, not requesting new tasks 12/01/2013 17:02:17 | SETI@home | Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server 12/01/2013 17:02:20 | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 12/01/2013 17:02:21 | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down. Haz some one stolen the server |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13727 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
Non sequitur. Saying something is possible doesn't turn it into a certainty. I agree. Just because someone believes something doesn't make it so. But beleiving something to be possible indicates that you consider it likely and implies that you consider it to be the case. But that doesn't apply here - there are a lot more possibilities left than the highly unlikely one that the project staff don't care, as evidenced by Matt's New Year post. Yet another indication that they do care. Grant Darwin NT |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13727 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
Back to the panic- If you do manage to get some work it won't last long, they appear to be all shorties. Grant Darwin NT |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13727 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
And for some time now the splitters have been unable to do more than 15/s, and the Ready to Send buffer that as a resault of the limited splitter output had been steadily declining, thanks to the shorties, is now falling like a stone... Grant Darwin NT |
Tom* Send message Joined: 12 Aug 11 Posts: 127 Credit: 20,769,223 RAC: 9 |
More Ammo to have shorties handled like VLAR's especially when AP's are being Split.!!! |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22186 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Wouldn't really help much. The problem with VLAR is a computational one, many GPU just freak out and so produce wrong answers, or get stalled in near infinite loops. The problem with shorties is that everyone gets through them so much faster than a normal WU that everyone, be they a slow CPU cruncher or a mega fast GPU cruncher is getting through them about 5 times faster than a normal one the demand for WUs goes up by a factor of five - perhaps the "cure" is actually the reverse - only distribute shorties when the fastest crunchers are stuffed up to the gills with APs..... Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Tom* Send message Joined: 12 Aug 11 Posts: 127 Credit: 20,769,223 RAC: 9 |
Rob, I agree that only distributing Shorties when AP's are not being distrubuted would help. The point I was making is if you turn Shorties into VLAR's (should be fairly easy if they do it for the real VLAR's) then the CPU shorties would take 5 times as long as the GPU shorties.and not ask for more, more, mpore, like they do now. |
tbret Send message Joined: 28 May 99 Posts: 3380 Credit: 296,162,071 RAC: 40 |
The only reason to fear something as you describe it there, is because you consider it possible. Inferences are out of my control. What's worse; we've changed the subject and are in danger of running through the entire Oxford English Dictionary defining "care." Since the discussion isn't fun, I suppose I'll give it a rest. I will, however, point-out that I know that Eric interrupted turkey basting to go kick a server and someone has seen to some issues on a Sunday. In light of those facts, and the reader's knowing I am aware of those facts, make whatever of my statement of fear "thou wilt," whosoever has the desire to make anything of it at all. I surrender. In the meantime, we can all resume complaining about and enlightening others about our interactions with the servers, as we have with regularity for several months. |
Cosmic_Ocean Send message Joined: 23 Dec 00 Posts: 3027 Credit: 13,516,867 RAC: 13 |
I punched the update button 14 times in the past 30 minutes and finally got some work reported. Most of the failed contacts were "couldn't connect to server" after 10-30 seconds. The successful contact took 104 seconds to complete. Uploads go through in less than 5 seconds on the first try. I have yet to see one of those fail. Linux laptop: record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up) |
Keith White Send message Joined: 29 May 99 Posts: 392 Credit: 13,035,233 RAC: 22 |
Well it appears that they will be running out of MB units soon so without those clogging the pipes the reports should start getting through. Sort of a good news/bad news situation since that means our queues will run dry. But since the AC is scheduled to be worked on Monday/Tuesday it was going to happen anyways. "Life is just nature's way of keeping meat fresh." - The Doctor |
tbret Send message Joined: 28 May 99 Posts: 3380 Credit: 296,162,071 RAC: 40 |
But since the AC is scheduled to be worked on Monday/Tuesday it was going to happen anyways. But you know, in a way the AC repair is a thing to be celebrated. The last time I can remember that the AC needed to be repaired it had unexpectedly died and a bunch of stuff overheated and stopped. I'm also glad that the resources exist to repair it. |
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