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Message 1329031 - Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 7:53:40 UTC - in response to Message 1329024.  

I am sure that you don't consider it unreasonable to be expected to have a license to drive a car, or have to take a test to drive that car. After all, sometimes we have to take a bit of hit to protect others. If those others are children, then it really is a no brainer.

Again, you say one thing and use an example of the other.

Do you need a drivers license to buy a car? NO!

It is people you want to track, even if you can't see it.


You need a license to use it, sure..and in the UK and Canada when you buy a car records are kept on who owns the vehicle. Which is not the case with private gun sales, which is part of the problem. So you are wrong. Cars are tracked.

You also need to prove you are competent to use it. As it is hard to conceal and carry a car a license is sufficient to ensure that cars aren't used by people in an irresponsible way and that you are accountable for what you do with your car.

You have got to be kidding right? Cars are never used irresponsibly? Every time you read the news you read about some unlicensed, uninsured, unregistered ,uninspected or any combination you can think of. Has caused an accident and killed or maimed some innocent.

I see how well regulations for cars and drivers works.

Considering how many cars are on the road these regulations have worked extremely well.

Gun deaths in America projected to soon top car fatalities

"The fall in traffic deaths resulted from safer vehicles, restricted privileges for young drivers and seat-belt and other laws, he said. By contrast, "we've made policy decisions that have had the impact of making the widest array of firearms available to the widest array of people under the widest array of conditions." While fewer households have guns, people who own guns are buying more of them, he said."

Practically every household in the US has a car, not every house hold has a gun, yet we are looking at gun deaths topping car deaths.

Based on studies by Bloomberg, Now there is an unbiased opinion. NOT.
I can see some reforms do need to be made. The first one is to prosecute every idiot who breaks a gun law. Right from illegal possesion, to using one in a crime. Those laws are on the books allready. ENFORCE THEM!!!!
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Message 1329170 - Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 19:07:49 UTC

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Message 1329177 - Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 19:31:33 UTC - in response to Message 1329109.  

... In 2012, in the US alone, 1.2 MILLION unborn children were hacked apart and discarded like trash ...

Guy, this is simply a lie. I suggest you go and revisit your biology lessons.

However, you bring a valid point without even realising it.

Restrict access to contraception and abortion rates go up. Of course if you make contraception illegal, there will always be some women who break the law and go and get contraception. However, in general, restricting access to contraception does mean less contraception and more unwanted pregnancies.

See, restricting access to something does have consequences.
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Message 1329181 - Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 19:35:19 UTC - in response to Message 1329031.  


Based on studies by Bloomberg, Now there is an unbiased opinion. NOT.
I can see some reforms do need to be made. The first one is to prosecute every idiot who breaks a gun law. Right from illegal possesion, to using one in a crime. Those laws are on the books allready. ENFORCE THEM!!!!

Who is going to enforce them? The ATF? The NRA lobby has ensured that the ATF no longer has the power to do that.
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Message 1329192 - Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 20:13:45 UTC

Free men do not need guns

Only the paranoid need guns
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Message 1329203 - Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 20:48:17 UTC - in response to Message 1329189.  

FREE MEN have guns. SLAVES don't.

Guy, so you are saying I wasn't a free man until I became a gun owner?
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Message 1329204 - Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 20:50:55 UTC - in response to Message 1329026.  


Are you telling me that car keys aren't concealable? Are you telling me that boozers don't drive? Are you telling me it is impossible to buy a car from a private party and never bother to have a license or register the car?

If you do these things there is a chance that you will get caught and held accountable. There is no such accountability for guns.

A bartender who allows a patron to leave his bar drunk and knowingly lets that person get into a car and drive will be in a hell of a lot of trouble.

There are no laws against gun stores selling guns to drunk people.

You are really reaching Es. There are no laws against selling cars to drunk people.

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Message 1329249 - Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 23:49:36 UTC - in response to Message 1328954.  

Interesting. 2 hang ups from an area code in TX.

if they weren't from India via VOIP -- pick your caller ID message


My Obamaphone doesn't allow that.

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(Thanks for that laugh Sarge!)
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Message 1329258 - Posted: 20 Jan 2013, 0:21:02 UTC

There are no laws against selling cars


When Whack Jobs are MOWING DOWN SCORES OF PEOPLE WITH THEIR CARS/TRUCKS, because they cannot Get Guns, then you will see Car Control.

And DEM/Libs will Be Beaming From Ear To Ear.

PROFessor S. Say: No End To The Ingenuity Of A Whack Job Intent On Destruction.

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Message 1329272 - Posted: 20 Jan 2013, 1:15:33 UTC - in response to Message 1329258.  

There are no laws against selling cars


When Whack Jobs are MOWING DOWN SCORES OF PEOPLE WITH THEIR CARS/TRUCKS, because they cannot Get Guns, then you will see Car Control.

http://articles.cnn.com/2003-07-16/us/farmers.market.crash_1_russell-weller-accident-pedestrians?_s=PM:US

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Message 1329276 - Posted: 20 Jan 2013, 1:44:49 UTC - in response to Message 1329274.  

Drunk drivers kill thousands of people every year. BANS CARS!


I wasn't aware that we were banning guns.
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Message 1329277 - Posted: 20 Jan 2013, 1:48:30 UTC - in response to Message 1329204.  


Are you telling me that car keys aren't concealable? Are you telling me that boozers don't drive? Are you telling me it is impossible to buy a car from a private party and never bother to have a license or register the car?

If you do these things there is a chance that you will get caught and held accountable. There is no such accountability for guns.

A bartender who allows a patron to leave his bar drunk and knowingly lets that person get into a car and drive will be in a hell of a lot of trouble.

There are no laws against gun stores selling guns to drunk people.

You are really reaching Es. There are no laws against selling cars to drunk people.

If they allow a drunk person to drive away in that vehicle they are breaking the law. However, if a gun seller allows a drunk person to walk out of the store with gun, they are not breaking the law.
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Message 1329280 - Posted: 20 Jan 2013, 1:58:37 UTC - in response to Message 1329276.  

In Guy's mind we might be banning guns.
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The internet is an amazing thing, you can find anything on it. Guy has.
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