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Message 1322540 - Posted: 31 Dec 2012, 9:01:14 UTC - in response to Message 1322317.  

So making assault weapons illegal will take them of the street? We should make heroine and meth illegal too.

Are you suggesting that guns are addictive? and that once a person starts using one they become chemically dependent on it and trapped in a circle of violence and addiction as the gun takes over their life?

Are there then people out there that will steal if they can't get hold of a bullets? That will go without food to get their bullets? That will neglect themselves, prostitute themselves if they can't get bullets?

If guns are like meth and heroine then the problem is more serious that we thought.



he was making the point that just because you make something illegal doesn't

mean that you can get it out of the hand of the people or stop people using

or doing them.
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Message 1322546 - Posted: 31 Dec 2012, 9:27:44 UTC - in response to Message 1322540.  

So making assault weapons illegal will take them of the street? We should make heroine and meth illegal too.

Are you suggesting that guns are addictive? and that once a person starts using one they become chemically dependent on it and trapped in a circle of violence and addiction as the gun takes over their life?

Are there then people out there that will steal if they can't get hold of a bullets? That will go without food to get their bullets? That will neglect themselves, prostitute themselves if they can't get bullets?

If guns are like meth and heroine then the problem is more serious that we thought.



he was making the point that just because you make something illegal doesn't

mean that you can get it out of the hand of the people or stop people using

or doing them.


Wow. What a concept!
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Message 1322555 - Posted: 31 Dec 2012, 10:25:32 UTC - in response to Message 1322546.  

So making assault weapons illegal will take them of the street? We should make heroine and meth illegal too.

Are you suggesting that guns are addictive? and that once a person starts using one they become chemically dependent on it and trapped in a circle of violence and addiction as the gun takes over their life?

Are there then people out there that will steal if they can't get hold of a bullets? That will go without food to get their bullets? That will neglect themselves, prostitute themselves if they can't get bullets?

If guns are like meth and heroine then the problem is more serious that we thought.



he was making the point that just because you make something illegal doesn't

mean that you can get it out of the hand of the people or stop people using

or doing them.


Wow. What a concept!


I know but he/she didn't seam able to understand.

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Message 1322557 - Posted: 31 Dec 2012, 10:32:55 UTC

I think that a simple concept like taking personal responsibility

for your actions and their consequences, good or bad would be hard too. LOL :)

irony?


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Message 1322699 - Posted: 31 Dec 2012, 16:15:58 UTC

ID: You Da Man

DEMON...Arm Pits On Fire


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Message 1322706 - Posted: 31 Dec 2012, 16:45:26 UTC - in response to Message 1322699.  

DEMON...Arm Pits On Fire

What is that awful smell? Oh, it is pit hair on fire.


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Message 1322765 - Posted: 31 Dec 2012, 18:59:55 UTC

Gary, you da man!
What's that smell?
Gary uses Axe deodorant for the ladies and doesn't have anything going on with pre-creation entities.
Wait. Is this dangerous?
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Message 1322781 - Posted: 31 Dec 2012, 19:34:26 UTC - in response to Message 1322765.  

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Message 1322851 - Posted: 31 Dec 2012, 22:48:39 UTC - in response to Message 1322555.  

So making assault weapons illegal will take them of the street? We should make heroine and meth illegal too.

Are you suggesting that guns are addictive? and that once a person starts using one they become chemically dependent on it and trapped in a circle of violence and addiction as the gun takes over their life?

Are there then people out there that will steal if they can't get hold of a bullets? That will go without food to get their bullets? That will neglect themselves, prostitute themselves if they can't get bullets?

If guns are like meth and heroine then the problem is more serious that we thought.



he was making the point that just because you make something illegal doesn't

mean that you can get it out of the hand of the people or stop people using

or doing them.


Wow. What a concept!


I know but he/she didn't seam able to understand.

No, he/she thought it was a stupid equivalency.
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Message 1322872 - Posted: 31 Dec 2012, 23:27:25 UTC - in response to Message 1322851.  

So making assault weapons illegal will take them of the street? We should make heroine and meth illegal too.

Are you suggesting that guns are addictive? and that once a person starts using one they become chemically dependent on it and trapped in a circle of violence and addiction as the gun takes over their life?

Are there then people out there that will steal if they can't get hold of a bullets? That will go without food to get their bullets? That will neglect themselves, prostitute themselves if they can't get bullets?

If guns are like meth and heroine then the problem is more serious that we thought.



he was making the point that just because you make something illegal doesn't

mean that you can get it out of the hand of the people or stop people using

or doing them.


Wow. What a concept!


I know but he/she didn't seam able to understand.

No, he/she thought it was a stupid equivalency.


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Message 1323020 - Posted: 1 Jan 2013, 4:29:30 UTC - in response to Message 1322851.  

So making assault weapons illegal will take them of the street? We should make heroine and meth illegal too.

Are you suggesting that guns are addictive? and that once a person starts using one they become chemically dependent on it and trapped in a circle of violence and addiction as the gun takes over their life?

Are there then people out there that will steal if they can't get hold of a bullets? That will go without food to get their bullets? That will neglect themselves, prostitute themselves if they can't get bullets?

If guns are like meth and heroine then the problem is more serious that we thought.



he was making the point that just because you make something illegal doesn't

mean that you can get it out of the hand of the people or stop people using

or doing them.


Wow. What a concept!


I know but he/she didn't seam able to understand.

No, he/she thought it was a stupid equivalency.


this is dancers room mate

about 95% of "gun crimes" are performed with a gun that has been obtained illegally. therefore, gun crimes won't really decrease by not allowing law abiding citizens to carry guns.
It's just like drugs. Ya just abuse them and obtain them illegally
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Message 1323039 - Posted: 1 Jan 2013, 5:12:22 UTC - in response to Message 1323020.  

So making assault weapons illegal will take them of the street? We should make heroine and meth illegal too.

Are you suggesting that guns are addictive? and that once a person starts using one they become chemically dependent on it and trapped in a circle of violence and addiction as the gun takes over their life?

Are there then people out there that will steal if they can't get hold of a bullets? That will go without food to get their bullets? That will neglect themselves, prostitute themselves if they can't get bullets?

If guns are like meth and heroine then the problem is more serious that we thought.



he was making the point that just because you make something illegal doesn't

mean that you can get it out of the hand of the people or stop people using

or doing them.


Wow. What a concept!


I know but he/she didn't seam able to understand.

No, he/she thought it was a stupid equivalency.


this is dancers room mate

about 95% of "gun crimes" are performed with a gun that has been obtained illegally. therefore, gun crimes won't really decrease by not allowing law abiding citizens to carry guns.
It's just like drugs. Ya just abuse them and obtain them illegally


I think if Dancer's roommate is going to post so much, Dancer's roommate should get a separate computer working for SETI@Home so that Dancer's roommate will have his or her own account.
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Message 1323040 - Posted: 1 Jan 2013, 5:15:22 UTC - in response to Message 1323020.  

So making assault weapons illegal will take them of the street? We should make heroine and meth illegal too.

Are you suggesting that guns are addictive? and that once a person starts using one they become chemically dependent on it and trapped in a circle of violence and addiction as the gun takes over their life?

Are there then people out there that will steal if they can't get hold of a bullets? That will go without food to get their bullets? That will neglect themselves, prostitute themselves if they can't get bullets?

If guns are like meth and heroine then the problem is more serious that we thought.



he was making the point that just because you make something illegal doesn't

mean that you can get it out of the hand of the people or stop people using

or doing them.



Wow. What a concept!


I know but he/she didn't seam able to understand.

No, he/she thought it was a stupid equivalency.


this is dancers room mateo

about 95% of "gun crimes" are performed with a gun that has been obtained illegally. therefore, gun crimes won't really decrease by not allowing law abiding citizens to carry guns.
It's just like drugs. Ya just abuse them and obtain them illegally

I'll explain this again.
You cannot equate drug prohibition with gun prohibition because guns are not addictive.
The reason it is so easy to get hold of illegal guns is because there are so many legal ones in circulation and no proper monitoring of where they end up.
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Message 1323044 - Posted: 1 Jan 2013, 5:29:36 UTC - in response to Message 1323039.  

I think if Dancer's roommate is going to post so much, Dancer's roommate should get a separate computer working for SETI@Home so that Dancer's roommate will have his or her own account.

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Message 1323046 - Posted: 1 Jan 2013, 5:34:19 UTC - in response to Message 1323040.  

this is dancers room mateo

about 95% of "gun crimes" are performed with a gun that has been obtained illegally. therefore, gun crimes won't really decrease by not allowing law abiding citizens to carry guns.
It's just like drugs. Ya just abuse them and obtain them illegally

I'll explain this again.
You cannot equate drug prohibition with gun prohibition because guns are not addictive.
The reason it is so easy to get hold of illegal guns is because there are so many legal ones in circulation and no proper monitoring of where they end up.

I'll explain again ...
http://www.cncguns.com/
All you need is a garage and some metal and wood working tools. No different than a meth lab.

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Message 1323055 - Posted: 1 Jan 2013, 5:57:53 UTC - in response to Message 1323044.  

I think if Dancer's roommate is going to post so much, Dancer's roommate should get a separate computer working for SETI@Home so that Dancer's roommate will have his or her own account.

+1



he has a laptop and I've told him that



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Message 1323078 - Posted: 1 Jan 2013, 7:03:47 UTC
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Interesting opinions blog in the Wahington Post.
Stop the gun madness

“Normal,” however, is tragically unacceptable. In 2010, guns took the lives of 31,076 Americans. Most of the deaths were suicides; a few were accidental. About a third of them — 11,078 — were homicides. That’s almost twice the number of Americans who have been killed in a decade of war in Afghanistan and Iraq.

In Britain, by comparison, the number of gun homicides in 2010 was 58. Here we’d consider that a rounding error.

What explains the difference? Well, I spent a few years as The Post’s London bureau chief, and I can attest that Britain has the same social ills that we have — crime, unemployment, alienation, racial strife, mental illness. Britain also has a powerful, rural-based constituency determined to protect the right of hunters to spend weekends blasting away at shadows in the woods. Gun-loving Brits are no less passionate than gun-loving Americans.


edit] I am now reading the link in that article. It is well worth a read.

Some questions that are in it

What are the health risks of having a gun in the home?

How many road deaths would there be if safer cars, driving laws and roads had not been introduced?

What are the differences in gun crimes and deaths between two very similar close cities, Seattle and across the border in Vancouver B.C.?
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Message 1323079 - Posted: 1 Jan 2013, 7:06:20 UTC - in response to Message 1323046.  

this is dancers room mateo

about 95% of "gun crimes" are performed with a gun that has been obtained illegally. therefore, gun crimes won't really decrease by not allowing law abiding citizens to carry guns.
It's just like drugs. Ya just abuse them and obtain them illegally

I'll explain this again.
You cannot equate drug prohibition with gun prohibition because guns are not addictive.
The reason it is so easy to get hold of illegal guns is because there are so many legal ones in circulation and no proper monitoring of where they end up.

I'll explain again ...
http://www.cncguns.com/
All you need is a garage and some metal and wood working tools. No different than a meth lab.

...and would probably be relevant if most gun deaths weren't committed by previously law abiding citizens or if people would desperately try to get hold of guns because they are addicted to them or you had a whole subculture of gun pushers selling guns for cheap outside schools to get young people addicted.

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Message 1323102 - Posted: 1 Jan 2013, 8:19:22 UTC - in response to Message 1323079.  

...and would probably be relevant if most gun deaths weren't committed by previously law abiding citizens

cite please - note not being caught/convicted doesn't make you previously law abiding, e.g. Al Capone before he was convicted of tax evasion ...

or if people would desperately try to get hold of guns because they are addicted to them

you would be shocked how many have a psychosexual relationship with them

or you had a whole subculture of gun pushers selling guns for cheap outside schools to get young people addicted.

Outside? Why would they go outside when they are already inside attending the school?

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Message 1323103 - Posted: 1 Jan 2013, 8:20:58 UTC - in response to Message 1323079.  

this is dancers room mateo

about 95% of "gun crimes" are performed with a gun that has been obtained illegally. therefore, gun crimes won't really decrease by not allowing law abiding citizens to carry guns.
It's just like drugs. Ya just abuse them and obtain them illegally

I'll explain this again.
You cannot equate drug prohibition with gun prohibition because guns are not addictive.
The reason it is so easy to get hold of illegal guns is because there are so many legal ones in circulation and no proper monitoring of where they end up.

I'll explain again ...
http://www.cncguns.com/
All you need is a garage and some metal and wood working tools. No different than a meth lab.

...and would probably be relevant if most gun deaths weren't committed by previously law abiding citizens or if people would desperately try to get hold of guns because they are addicted to them or you had a whole subculture of gun pushers selling guns for cheap outside schools to get young people addicted.

Studies conducted at both the local and national level indicate the overwhelming majority of murders are committed by people with previous criminal records. Even a significant percentage of homicide victims themselves have criminal records
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