Firearms. Who or what is dangerous?

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Guy Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1181 Credit: 3,471,520 RAC: 373	Message 1329990 - Posted: 21 Jan 2013, 23:45:22 UTC
	10,228 people died in drunk driving crashes, accounting for 31% of all traffic deaths last year. If we can only save ONE LIFE, shouldn't society DEMAND IT? BAN CARS NOW! http://www.centurycouncil.org/drunk-driving/drunk-driving-fatalities-national-statistics
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Guy Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1181 Credit: 3,471,520 RAC: 373	Message 1330004 - Posted: 22 Jan 2013, 0:26:06 UTC
	Same logic. If we ban cars, then drunks can kill by drunk driving. And if some of you INSIST that we DON'T BAN ALL CARS, then maybe I'd be willing to concede and limit cars to ONE CYLINDER engines. What does anybody need a car with MORE THAN ONE CYLINDER in its ENGINE for? Or maybe limit private transportation to TWO WHEELS. What does anybody need more than TWO WHEELS for on their transportation? If they need more than TWO WHEELS, or more than ONE CYLINDER in their engine, they can hire a GOVERNMENT APPROVED truck or taxi. Same logic. And limiting your transportation to two wheels would put your life at risk as much as some random person on the street, if you chose to drive drunk, wouldn't it? Wouldn't that at least make it a bit more FAIR? If we can save ONE LIFE by BANNING CARS, shouldn't civilized society DEMAND IT? Same logic. And abortion is an emotional topic (more emotional than cars) and since some of us will NEVER agree on where life begins, there's no possible civilized discussion available, so don't go there. Any logical, thinking person can only come to the conclusion that life begins when the DNA of the sperm mix with the DNA of the egg, but many of you in here will continue to assert that life begins at some arbitrary point in the future, after the mixing of the DNA. So, it's a waste of time to try to go there. Start another thread on it if some of you feel a need to agree with each other on that arbitrary point in the future, after the mixing of the DNA. I won't participate, but ya'll can go there and argue and agree with each other if that'll make you feel better about yourselves.
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Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 8871 Credit: 1,226,487 RAC: 1,601	Message 1330006 - Posted: 22 Jan 2013, 0:32:55 UTC - in response to Message 1329969.
	Free men have guns. Slaves don't.
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Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 8871 Credit: 1,226,487 RAC: 1,601	Message 1330007 - Posted: 22 Jan 2013, 0:34:16 UTC - in response to Message 1330006.
	Free men have guns. Slaves don't.
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Guy Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1181 Credit: 3,471,520 RAC: 373	Message 1330008 - Posted: 22 Jan 2013, 0:36:03 UTC - in response to Message 1329972.
	By your definition of tyranny, too much taxes. Why haven't you free'd yourselves from Washington? I'm still a person who likes to follow the rules for the time being. Mind you, my friend across the pond (never met a bloke in person I didn't friend), there might come a time when I decide to dump the tea in the harbor again.
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Guy Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1181 Credit: 3,471,520 RAC: 373	Message 1330010 - Posted: 22 Jan 2013, 0:37:40 UTC
	I don't see any slaves in your pictures sarge. Thanks for supporting me.
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Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 8871 Credit: 1,226,487 RAC: 1,601	Message 1330014 - Posted: 22 Jan 2013, 1:00:31 UTC - in response to Message 1330010.
	I don't see any slaves in your pictures sarge. Thanks for supporting me. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=70368&postid=1329878 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=70368&postid=1329931 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=70368&postid=1329955
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Bathybius & Eozoon Nummulosphere Bound Send message Joined: 16 Jun 02 Posts: 1295 Credit: 2,385,449 RAC: 4,042	Message 1330047 - Posted: 22 Jan 2013, 3:25:21 UTC
	In The Libber World, We The People Are All Safe. From Ourselves and Others. There will be No Who Or What Is Dangerous. Remember The Happy, Safe, Working, Partying, Vacationing Germans? From '33 to '39. They thought The German Guv Was Da Bomb. Then The Germans, brought Into The Camps, to View What Their Guv Had Wrought-IN THEIR NAME. What Is The Government Doing IN OUR NAME? Making US Safe? Let The Working, Partying, Vacationing Begin. You Know, Like It Is Inaug Day and Night, Every Day and Night. PROFessor S. Say: You Can't Bring Back 1999, But Youse Kan Liv' it Every Moment. ____________
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Es99 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 7339 Credit: 210,542 RAC: 255	Message 1330048 - Posted: 22 Jan 2013, 3:34:09 UTC - in response to Message 1329969.
	... Free men have guns. Slaves don't. I'm a free man and intend to keep it that way. ... World Freedom Index 2013: Canadian Fraser Institute Ranks Countries America is number 7. All the countries with a higher freedom index than the US have strict gun control laws. So yeah, being in Canada is working out for me. I am freer than you, and you are so unfree, you don't even know it. ____________ In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adams
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Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 8871 Credit: 1,226,487 RAC: 1,601	Message 1330050 - Posted: 22 Jan 2013, 3:42:25 UTC - in response to Message 1330047.
	In The Libber World, We The People Are All Safe. From Ourselves and Others. There will be No Who Or What Is Dangerous. Remember The Happy, Safe, Working, Partying, Vacationing Germans? From '33 to '39. They thought The German Guv Was Da Bomb. Then The Germans, brought Into The Camps, to View What Their Guv Had Wrought-IN THEIR NAME. What Is The Government Doing IN OUR NAME? Making US Safe? Let The Working, Partying, Vacationing Begin. You Know, Like It Is Inaug Day and Night, Every Day and Night. PROFessor S. Say: You Can't Bring Back 1999, But Youse Kan Liv' it Every Moment. We follow that with a brief interruption to this political "discussion". A lil "Alternative/Brit Pop/Life-Go-Round" music to calm y'all down. http://www.reverbnation.com/tyroneschulaceandhispals
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Bathybius & Eozoon Nummulosphere Bound Send message Joined: 16 Jun 02 Posts: 1295 Credit: 2,385,449 RAC: 4,042	Message 1330080 - Posted: 22 Jan 2013, 6:36:32 UTC
	A lil "Alternative/Brit Pop/Life-Go-Round" music Speaking Of Brittish Rock: What Tube Amp or Solid State Amp do you think is The Best for Brittish Rock? What Guitar, Pick-ups, and light or heavy strings? And Keeping with The Firearms Topic: What Firearm could best Blow To Smithereens said Amp with One Shot? PROFessor S. Say: Round A 'Bout. DaDaDa Da Da Da Da DaDaDa Da ____________
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Guy Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1181 Credit: 3,471,520 RAC: 373	Message 1330139 - Posted: 22 Jan 2013, 13:10:57 UTC
	Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? Government. Centralizing power in government. Government taking away the last check on government. And government tyranny. There... over three hundred posts in this thread and I believe the answer has finally been reached.
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WinterKnight Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6801 Credit: 17,090,580 RAC: 28,369	Message 1330155 - Posted: 22 Jan 2013, 14:15:56 UTC - in response to Message 1330139.
	Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? Government. Centralizing power in government. Government taking away the last check on government. And government tyranny. There... over three hundred posts in this thread and I believe the answer has finally been reached. No it hasn't. Centralised government should be used more so that there is no confusion when going from one area to the next. Whether it be about education, guns, driving, building regulations or whatever. Local government should only be responsible for deciding thing like, should we build the new school here, here or there. Not on what subjects should be taught inside the school.
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Guy Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1181 Credit: 3,471,520 RAC: 373	Message 1330343 - Posted: 23 Jan 2013, 11:50:53 UTC

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Es99 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 7339 Credit: 210,542 RAC: 255	Message 1330388 - Posted: 23 Jan 2013, 16:11:55 UTC - in response to Message 1330343.
	Do you ever fact check the stuff you put up? Because right now I am a little embarrassed for you. ____________ In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adams
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Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 2063 Credit: 28,567 RAC: 6	Message 1330618 - Posted: 24 Jan 2013, 5:33:11 UTC
	Only one quote from the video is wrong and it's the first one given by Washington. The rest are true and correct. ____________ What is free speech here? It's called--banished! Why is it called banished? Because socialist don't understand free speech. Why don't they understand free speech? They are sheeple.
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Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 10316 Credit: 5,078,608 RAC: 6,020	Message 1330628 - Posted: 24 Jan 2013, 6:02:14 UTC - in response to Message 1330618.
	Post a transcript. Everyone here reads faster than talking heads talk. Otherwise I suspect propaganda value is the reason you post.
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Es99 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 7339 Credit: 210,542 RAC: 255	Message 1330649 - Posted: 24 Jan 2013, 7:01:32 UTC
	THE HIDDEN HISTORY OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT "This Article challenges the insurrectionist model. The Second Amendment was not enacted to provide a check on government tyranny; rather, it was written to assure the Southern states that Congress would not undermine the slave system by using its newly acquired constitutional authority over the militia to disarm the state militia and thereby destroy the South's principal instrument of slave control. In effect, the Second Amendment supplemented the slavery compromise made at the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia and obliquely codified in other constitutional provisions.[52]" An interesting, well researched paper on the true history of the 2nd amendment. Also explains where I.D. is getting his information from. ____________ In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adams
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Bathybius & Eozoon Nummulosphere Bound Send message Joined: 16 Jun 02 Posts: 1295 Credit: 2,385,449 RAC: 4,042	Message 1330655 - Posted: 24 Jan 2013, 7:40:57 UTC
	In effect, the Second Amendment supplemented the slavery compromise Like Many have Stated Here, The US Constitution is A Fluid, Changeable In Interpretation, Through Time, Document. Now, In The 21st Century, We, Certain-Over 50%-of The US Population, Do Believe, Tyranny Is Suspect, And, The Interpretation Now, In Our Time, Of The Second Admendment, Is, One Of An Insurrectionist Nature. PROFessor S. Say: There It Goes Again, Nature, Evolving, not so much to Make US Better, But To Adapt to CHANGING Environments. he ahe ahe hehe ____________
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Es99 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 7339 Credit: 210,542 RAC: 255	Message 1330657 - Posted: 24 Jan 2013, 7:44:53 UTC - in response to Message 1330655.
	In effect, the Second Amendment supplemented the slavery compromise Like Many have Stated Here, The US Constitution is A Fluid, Changeable In Interpretation, Through Time, Document. Now, In The 21st Century, We, Certain-Over 50%-of The US Population, Do Believe, Tyranny Is Suspect, And, The Interpretation Now, In Our Time, Of The Second Admendment, Is, One Of An Insurrectionist Nature. PROFessor S. Say: There It Goes Again, Nature, Evolving, not so much to Make US Better, But To Adapt to CHANGING Environments. he ahe ahe hehe and who lobbied to change it? From the paper: "The bulk of this writing has been produced by a small band of true believers who belong not merely to the individual rights school of thought but a particular wing commonly called "insurrectionist theory."[35] The leader of this band is Stephen P. Halbrook,[36] who, with the support of tens of thousands of dollars in NRA grants,[37] has written no less than two books and thirteen law review articles advocating this particular theory of the Second Amendment.[38] Insurrectionist theory is premised on [Page 319] the idea that the ultimate purpose of an armed citizenry is to be prepared to fight the government itself. Halbrook believes that "the Second Amendment's framers anticipated a force of the whole armed populace, not a select group, to counter inroads on freedom by government,"[39] and that they intended "to guarantee the right of the people to have .their private arms' to prevent tyranny and to overpower an abusive standing army or select militia."[40] Such writings conjure up a romantic image of the colonial militia: rugged individualists who answer to no one but their own conscience and stand ready to protect their homes, families, and communities from all manner of threats, both foreign and domestic. Because they serve no master other than their own sense of patriotism, they cannot be manipulated or commandeered as might a government controlled force. Because they are armed, they have the means, as well as the will, to resist tyranny." ____________ In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adams
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