Firearms. Who or what is dangerous?

Isn't a person who would commit homicide by definition mentally ill?

No, not if the victim is a conservative, a republican, or an unborn child.

Godwin's law applies especially to inappropriate, inordinate, or hyperbolic comparisons of other situations, such as ad hominem attacks by people ...

... like "Sarge the Pro..tagonist" (name change number .... 4 or 5?) who project on people who spread the truth.

History shows us that ...

As stated before, his cuff buttons clack against the podium almost every time he speaks. It is hard to find him a "charming" speaker, leading us to the world's end, when there's that constant distraction.

Another multiple shooting, no details at moment so no speculating.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-21110435

Another multiple shooting, no details at moment so no speculating.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-21110435

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History shows us that as free nations become complacent, they become vulnerable to manipulation. Most dictatorships rise gradually -- a step at a time. Smooth talking politicians make each incremental step seem reasonable, because the masses are blind to the tides of change. The wisdom of Wendell Phillips fades away: "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty."

Austria illustrates the power of gradualism. In 1933, it was a free nation. In 1934, its government began to centralize its power and welcome the influence of Nazi sympathizers. By 1938, it had become a Nazi dictatorship .

The downward slide began with one crisis after another. A third of the people were out of work, inflation rose to 25%, and political turmoil caused civil unrest. People longed for a leader to rescue them. Adolf Hitler campaigned in Austria, promising to solve their problems if they were annexed to Germany. A persuasive speaker, he gave them hope and won their hearts. The Austrian people voted him in.

Gun control came in two stages. First there was gun registration, and then the people were required to give up their guns. Once the people were unarmed, they had no way of defending themselves against the Nazis. After that, political correctness replaced freedom of speech; taxes were increased to eighty percent (i.e., four fifths of income); the nation was filled with informers; anybody who spoke against the government was arrested; and the people lived in constant fear.

http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/010/incremental.htm

There is no measurable difference between a fundamentalist christian and a fundamentalist Islamist. Both seek to return to rules and life 2000 years ago. That is a dangerous person who should be locked up and not permitted access to guns or society.

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There is no measurable difference between a fundamentalist christian and a fundamentalist Islamist. Both seek to return to rules and life 2000 years ago. That is a dangerous person who should be locked up and not permitted access to guns or society.

Since neither religion existed 2000 years ago you are contending both religions want to return to a time where neither existed?
I do agree with your statement that ideologues are dangerous.

http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/010/incremental.htm

Kitty Werthmann told us how Hitler nationalized the education system. Christian symbols were removed and prayer was banned. Through their government-run child care program, the Nazis would indoctrinate the children with politically correct ideology and absolute loyalty to Hitler. Hitler worship became part of the new structure. The daycare workers were trained in Marxist psychology, not motherly love, for Hitler was fascinated with communist mind-control.

All of these ideas, which are to be found in Luria's writings as early as the 1920s, render him a prematurely modern psychologist who happened to begin life before his ideas could find confirmation in existing technologies or data. But it is not possible or appropriate to locate Luria's ideas only in terms of world psychology and neurophysiology. The fact that he was a Russian intellectual actively involved in the building of Soviet science and psychology shaped his career from its earliest days.

For approximately a decade following the Revolution there was a great deal of experimentation and improvization in the conduct of Soviet science, education, and economic policy. Less well known than the political struggles after Lenin's death are the experiments with new forms of schooling, free market agriculture, modern means of expression in the arts, and new branches of science. During the 1920s, virtually every psychological movement existing in western Europe and the United States found adherents in the Soviet Union. Perhaps because psychology as an academic discipline was embryonic at the end of the tsarist era, with only a single institute devoted to what was then recognized as psychology proper, an unusual variety of viewpoints and activities competed actively for the right to determine what the new Soviet psychology should be like. Educators, doctors, psychiatrists, psychoanalysts, neurologists. and physiologists often contributed to national meetings devoted to discussions of research and theory.

As the decade progressed, three issues came to dominate these discussions. First, there was increasing concern that Soviet psychology should be self-consciously Marxist. No-one was certain what this meant, but everyone joined in the discussion with their own proposals. Second, psychology must be a materialist discipline; all psychologists were obliged to search for the material basis of mind. And third, psychology should have relevance to the building of a socialist society. Lenin's exhortation that theory be tested in practice was a matter of both economic and social urgency.

Toward the end of the 1920s this discussion had progressed to a point where there was agreement on some general principles, but the major conclusions did not single out any existing approach as a model for others. At the same time, the country experienced new economic and social upheavals with the advent of the rapid collectivization of agriculture and a greatly accelerated pace of heavy industrial development. Existing psychological schools were found to be wanting in their practical contributions to these new social demands as well.

A major result of these ideological and performance deficiencies was a deliberate reorganization of psychological research in the mid-1930s. While the specific events associated with this reorganization grew out of dissatisfaction with the use of psychological tests in education and industry, the result was a general decline in the authority and prestige of psychology as a whole.

I do not know where people get this notion that the nazi's closed christian schools ar had their symbols removed. They in fact closed secular schools, because of their belief that secular schools could not teach morals.

I refuse to participate in an exchange of personal attacks that you started sarge. Besides, it's against the rules. And these rules are enforced more against some than others. I'm in the "some" category.

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We, as a society, do not think historically. We do not use the lessons of the past to make decisions in the present and to plan for the future.

If American political and business leaders thought historically, American troops would not be fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq. The financial crisis would not have happened.

The present world suffers from a fatal delusion. We believe that we are immune to the lessons – the laws – of history. We believe that our modern science and technology has lifted us above the lessons of history.

However, as the American Founders understood, the lessons of history endure because human nature never changed. All the human emotions are the same today as in Egypt of the pharaohs or China in the time of Confucius: Love, hate, ambition, the lust for power, kindness, generosity, and inhumanity. The good and bad of human nature is simply poured into new vehicles created by science and technology.

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We do not learn from history.

http://bigthink.com/learning-from-the-past/why-we-refuse-to-learn-from-history

We are doomed to repeat it.

By the way, how's long gun registration working for you up there in Canada these days?

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.html?id=7f744959-cd1a-4746-af84-53957b01a6a0

Ban assault weapons? I support a ban on abortion's assault weapons.

I do not know where people get this notion that the nazi's closed christian schools ar had their symbols removed.

They in fact closed secular schools, because of their belief that secular schools could not teach morals.

Guy, besides women who else do you believe should not have control of their own bodies?

How does your response address my question?

Lamestream media is downplaying the numbers at the "festivities" in D.C. (truly closer to 5 million) so as to seem less tempting for madmen. Madmen like to perform to millions, not hundreds of thousands.