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Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
The internet is an amazing thing, you can find anything on it. Guy has. I sometimes wonder though if I am getting a distorted view of America through it. From what I can gather from this thread alone, guns are people and have rights. Woman are people until they get pregnant, then they have no rights, but the bundle of cells that can't survive without them count as people. The mentally ill are not people, they don't have rights. So in America guns, balls of cells and corporations are people and Americans will fight to protect their constitutional rights. Children are people, but protecting guns is more important that protecting children. The mentally ill and woman are not people and have no constitutional rights. ..and people wonder why I wouldn't want to live there. Reality Internet Personality |
Ex: "Socialist" Send message Joined: 12 Mar 12 Posts: 3433 Credit: 2,616,158 RAC: 2 |
The internet is an amazing thing, you can find anything on it. Guy has. About 51% of us see things your way. And growing. It's a start. #resist |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19048 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
My Physiatrist brother in law pointed me to this publication. Crime is not his field. He specialises in health problems in immigrants especially those who don't learn the local language. Mind UK - Mental health facts and statistics Dangerousness So if these figures are similar in the US, those that want to lock up the "crazies" want to lock up 1 in 6 or 50 Million Americans, to stop ~350 violent crimes committed by people with mental health problems, out of about 1.2 million violent crimes committed each year in the US. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30640 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
If they allow a drunk person to drive away in that vehicle they are breaking the law. Cite please. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30640 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
More often than not, however, dangerousness presents in the form of people being a danger to themselves, through suicide or deliberate self-harm. e.g. Suicide by cop. In fact, 95 per cent of homicides are committed by people who have not been diagnosed with a mental health problem.[10] Isn't a person who would commit homicide by definition mentally ill? Or have these 95% been misdiagnosed? |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
We currently have legislation (proposed or otherwise) to ban all guys? How many times does a screen name need to be changed anyway, right? |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Isn't a person who would commit homicide by definition mentally ill? Cite, please? LOL! |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Godwin's law applies especially to inappropriate, inordinate, or hyperbolic comparisons of other situations, such as ad hominem attacks by people ... Yeah? Find one. Red X me. Your posts have been demonstrably hostile to ALL people from several months. ... like "Sarge the Pro..tagonist" (name change number .... 4 or 5?) who project on people who spread the truth. You have a problem with "using absurdity to demonstrate the absurd"? Whose line is that? Hint: initials R.L. History shows us that ...... it was the Weimar Republic that passed the gun laws in Germany, before the Nazis rose to power. BTW, find out what your current hero, Alex Jones, really believes: Alex Jones discusses Area 51 with "Tim". "Project" them holograms. Mmmm, bacon holograms, hot and tasty, fer shur hair parted and more lampoony posts on the way! |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
As stated before, his cuff buttons clack against the podium almost every time he speaks. It is hard to find him a "charming" speaker, leading us to the world's end, when there's that constant distraction. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19048 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Another multiple shooting, no details at moment so no speculating. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-21110435 |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Another multiple shooting, no details at moment so no speculating. It was a 15 year old kid, the only Democrat in a 6 member family. He heard Obama's voice in his head telling him to shoot the rest of his family, so Obama would have more cause to take away the guns. |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
... You slipped over a major component of how he won their sympathies. He found a scapegoat for all Germany's problems. He picked on one group of people, demonised them and blamed them for everything that was wrong. He was the ultimate conspiracy theorist. He then picked on that group and forced them to identify themselves to start with. He then insisted that they carry papers proving their identity at all times. By picking an easy to blame scapegoat he was able to promise an easy fix to the German populace. There are tactics like this going on in the US, but they seem to be going on at state level, rather than federal level. Some groups I have noticed being demonised and blamed for the current problems in the US, even though they actually have nothing to do with them are: Immigrants. Unions. Non-Christians. Arizona even went as far as forcing immigrants to have to carry papers all the time. I didn't hear you crying "Nazi" at that point. ... Gun control came in two stages. First there was gun registration, and then the people were required to give up their guns. Once the people were unarmed, they had no way of defending themselves against the Nazis. After that, political correctness replaced freedom of speech; taxes were increased to eighty percent (i.e., four fifths of income); the nation was filled with informers; anybody who spoke against the government was arrested; and the people lived in constant fear. Do you actually have any idea of the real causes of the 2nd world war? From this paragraph, you have ignored the real issues that were going on in Germany at the time. I don't understand your argument that guns were why the German people didn't defend themselves against the Nazis. The Nazi's sold them a lie and they went along with it. They were the Nazi's. That is why it worked. It worked because people like you believed the lie. Just like you believe the NRA lies...and the Fox propaganda lies..and the Glen Beck lies. http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/010/incremental.htm What a load of propaganda bullsh*t. What you just posted is so misinformed, deliberately emotive...it is worthy of Goebbels himself (while we're on the Nazi theme). I love the bit at the end about being a Christian. You are being nicely set up there to start to otherise anyone who is non-christian. I look forward to your future pamphlets on how Athiests (or whatever non-Christian group gets chosen here) eat babies and the are stealing jobs and controlling the banks. Reality Internet Personality |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30640 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
There is no measurable difference between a fundamentalist christian and a fundamentalist Islamist. Both seek to return to rules and life 2000 years ago. That is a dangerous person who should be locked up and not permitted access to guns or society. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
There is no measurable difference between a fundamentalist christian and a fundamentalist Islamist. Both seek to return to rules and life 2000 years ago. That is a dangerous person who should be locked up and not permitted access to guns or society. Since neither religion existed 2000 years ago you are contending both religions want to return to a time where neither existed? I do agree with your statement that ideologues are dangerous. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30640 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
There is no measurable difference between a fundamentalist christian and a fundamentalist Islamist. Both seek to return to rules and life 2000 years ago. That is a dangerous person who should be locked up and not permitted access to guns or society. They do wish to return to a rule set from then, perhaps even earlier. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/010/incremental.htm Kitty Werthmann told us how Hitler nationalized the education system. Christian symbols were removed and prayer was banned. Through their government-run child care program, the Nazis would indoctrinate the children with politically correct ideology and absolute loyalty to Hitler. Hitler worship became part of the new structure. The daycare workers were trained in Marxist psychology, not motherly love, for Hitler was fascinated with communist mind-control. Really? Guess the commies were quick to organize, research and disseminate after their Bloody Revolution, then, right? http://www.marxists.org/archive/luria/works/1979/mind/intro.htm All of these ideas, which are to be found in Luria's writings as early as the 1920s, render him a prematurely modern psychologist who happened to begin life before his ideas could find confirmation in existing technologies or data. But it is not possible or appropriate to locate Luria's ideas only in terms of world psychology and neurophysiology. The fact that he was a Russian intellectual actively involved in the building of Soviet science and psychology shaped his career from its earliest days. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19048 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
I do not know where people get this notion that the nazi's closed christian schools ar had their symbols removed. They in fact closed secular schools, because of their belief that secular schools could not teach morals. |
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