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Message 1318823 - Posted: 22 Dec 2012, 14:57:09 UTC



So the question to me would be who or what is more dangerous, the pen or the sword?

Who can do more damage? A person with the pen who is misinformed or worse blatantly misinforms the public?

Or a person who with the sword becomes crazed takes innocent lives and either commits suicide or dies by someone else's sword?

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Message 1318826 - Posted: 22 Dec 2012, 15:31:40 UTC

Who can do more damage? A person with the pen who is misinformed or worse blatantly misinforms the public?

Or a person who with the sword becomes crazed takes innocent lives and either commits suicide or dies by someone else's sword?

Both, it is a matter of time.

The sword is immediate, the pen festers in the background until it manifests itself in the sword.

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Message 1318839 - Posted: 22 Dec 2012, 16:08:38 UTC

So, people who misinform others about firearms so much that some forms of the firearm get banned have no blame placed on them for their misinformation?

The person who owns that type of firearm has not done anything to the antigunners. If that was so as the photo says the antigunner would be dead, their freedom to speak gone due to their death by the firearm owner.

What you suggest is not true. What you have done is misinform. Your pen is indeed worse then the firearm. By numbers alone you are worse then the firearm owner.

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Message 1318877 - Posted: 22 Dec 2012, 17:18:34 UTC

Correctly informed...

When only cops have guns, it's called a "police state".

Love your country, but never trust its government.

-- Robert A. Heinlein.


"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government." ~ George Washington

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Message 1318879 - Posted: 22 Dec 2012, 17:26:52 UTC

The ATF and FBI killed more children at Waco then were killed at Sandy Hook.

Where was the outrage then?

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Message 1318905 - Posted: 22 Dec 2012, 18:34:01 UTC
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The world's largest army...

America's hunters! Deer license sales in just a handful of states.

There were over 600,000 hunters this season in the state of Wisconsin. Allow me to restate that number:600,000. Over the last several months, Wisconsin's hunters became the eighth largest army in the world. More men under arms than in Iran. More than France and Germany combined. These men deployed to the woods of a single American state, Wisconsin, to hunt with firearms, and no one was killed.


That number pales in comparison to the 750,000 who hunted the wood of Pennsylvania and Michigan's 700,000 hunters, all of whom have now returned home safely. Toss in a quarter million hunters in West Virginia and it literally establishes the fact that the hunters of those four states alone would comprise the largest army in the world. And then add in the total number of hunters in the other 46 states. It's millions more.

The point?

America will forever be safe
from foreign invasion with that
kind of home-grown firepower.

Hunting...
it's not just a way to fill the freezer.

It's a matter of national
security.

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That's why all enemies, foreign and domestic, want to see us disarmed.

Food for thought, when next we consider gun control.

Overall it's true, so if we disregard some assumptions that hunters
don't possess the same skills as soldiers, the question would still remain...
What army of 2 million would want to face 30, 40, 50 million armed citizens?

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Message 1318913 - Posted: 22 Dec 2012, 18:52:05 UTC

Hunting...
it's not just a way to fill the freezer.

It's a matter of national
security.

So you are suggesting that thousands of people around the country, are geared up to use arms to overthrow the government?

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Message 1318917 - Posted: 22 Dec 2012, 19:03:21 UTC

This ID dude is seriously thinking that guys in the woods with guns are an army.

What good will a deer rifle do against heat-seeking, laser and satellite guided armed drones?
Does ID really think by squatting in a cave in the woods with that rifle, he will stave off the US army or a foreign invasion of troops using the latest military technology?

Pull your head out of your arse man! Do rightists ever think anything through to it's conclusion?
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Message 1318920 - Posted: 22 Dec 2012, 19:08:37 UTC - in response to Message 1318917.
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Message 1318921 - Posted: 22 Dec 2012, 19:11:07 UTC - in response to Message 1318920.

Does ID really think by squatting in a cave in the woods with that rifle, he will stave off the US army or a foreign invasion of troops using the latest military technology?


Al Queda is doing it right now in Afghanistan.


Really? They've stopped an invasion of their country?

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Message 1318940 - Posted: 22 Dec 2012, 20:28:26 UTC - in response to Message 1318921.

Does ID really think by squatting in a cave in the woods with that rifle, he will stave off the US army or a foreign invasion of troops using the latest military technology?


Al Queda is doing it right now in Afghanistan.


Really? They've stopped an invasion of their country?


They didn't have to. They just waged guerrilla warfare and won. The oldest tacitic in the world.

Yes, they won. And we fell for it just like the USSR did.

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Message 1318942 - Posted: 22 Dec 2012, 20:29:32 UTC - in response to Message 1318917.

This ID dude is seriously thinking that guys in the woods with guns are an army.

What good will a deer rifle do against heat-seeking, laser and satellite guided armed drones?
Does ID really think by squatting in a cave in the woods with that rifle, he will stave off the US army or a foreign invasion of troops using the latest military technology?

Pull your head out of your arse man! Do rightists ever think anything through to it's conclusion?

When you place your head between your cheeks like that you should really think about the pain of removing it first.

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Message 1318943 - Posted: 22 Dec 2012, 20:30:08 UTC - in response to Message 1318921.

Does ID really think by squatting in a cave in the woods with that rifle, he will stave off the US army or a foreign invasion of troops using the latest military technology?


Al Queda is doing it right now in Afghanistan.


Really? They've stopped an invasion of their country?

Yes, to all of the above.

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Message 1318946 - Posted: 22 Dec 2012, 20:37:50 UTC - in response to Message 1318940.

Yes, they won. And we fell for it just like the USSR did.


Hmmn, wonder who financed & armed them in the first place?


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Message 1318948 - Posted: 22 Dec 2012, 20:38:33 UTC - in response to Message 1318913.

Hunting...
it's not just a way to fill the freezer.

It's a matter of national
security.

So you are suggesting that thousands of people around the country, are geared up to use arms to overthrow the government?


I quoted our first President. What part of that do you need help with? It's self-government and self-rule. Not what we have now. It is the difference between democracy and republic.

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Message 1318949 - Posted: 22 Dec 2012, 20:40:12 UTC - in response to Message 1318946.

Yes, they won. And we fell for it just like the USSR did.


Hmmn, wonder who financed & armed them in the first place?


It was wrong then and still wrong now. Proxy war.

It did however work out well for us in 1776 when the French helped us out. (smile)

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Message 1318957 - Posted: 22 Dec 2012, 20:45:42 UTC - in response to Message 1318949.

Yep, those 'good old yanks' will arm us & we'll horde those weapons for a year or 2 when they'll come attack us.....

Iraq (financing & arming the Shah's forces)
Afghanistan (financing & arming the taliban}

How many others?

You should'nt be worried about hording weapons but worried about where your taxes are really going to.
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Message 1318962 - Posted: 22 Dec 2012, 20:48:57 UTC

We haven't forgiven them yet for Yorktown. But trust you to stir it ...

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Message 1318963 - Posted: 22 Dec 2012, 20:51:08 UTC - in response to Message 1318957.
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Yep, those 'good old yanks' will arm us & we'll horde those weapons for a year or 2 when they'll come attack us.....

Iraq (financing & arming the Shah's forces)
Afghanistan (financing & arming the taliban}

How many others?

You should'nt be worried about hording weapons but worried about where your taxes are really going to.

I am, it adds needlessly to debt. An example between ethics and morals. A lack of virtue.

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Message 1318964 - Posted: 22 Dec 2012, 20:52:10 UTC - in response to Message 1318962.
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We haven't forgiven them yet for Yorktown. But trust you to stir it ...



I told the truth. It worked out well for us. I teach real history.

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