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Message 1318443 - Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 21:29:46 UTC

Just read an article from our local NBC affiliate here in Spokane about The NRA spokesman making a comment saying that we need, or should have armed security in public schools. I thought that to be a rather interesting discussion topic.

Thoughts? Anyone? Bueller?... Bueller?
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Message 1318451 - Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 21:35:12 UTC

Bueller isn't here today, sir.

Any teacher/employee who takes the training course would work out just fine. As a matter of fact cheaper then another fulltime person. One armed for every 50 kids should work out just fine.

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Message 1318461 - Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 21:46:43 UTC - in response to Message 1318451.

Bueller isn't here today, sir.

Any teacher/employee who takes the training course would work out just fine. As a matter of fact cheaper then another fulltime person. One armed for every 50 kids should work out just fine.


No it should be a legitimately, properly trained Security Officer. Teachers/employees are overloaded and overwhelmed as is.
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Message 1318466 - Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 21:52:43 UTC - in response to Message 1318461.

IIRC and no knock on security folk but they generally can't get jobs in the Military or Police work so they go into security work. Anything for a badge. I also think that the security officers would not be allowed to have weapons on schools grounds because they are not actually police officers
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Message 1318468 - Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 21:54:20 UTC

ahh the age old answer to gun violence. More guns. Get them in there where the kids can just grab 'em too.

*sigh* When will they ever learn? When will they ever learn.
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Message 1318469 - Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 21:54:36 UTC - in response to Message 1318461.
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Bueller isn't here today, sir.

Any teacher/employee who takes the training course would work out just fine. As a matter of fact cheaper then another fulltime person. One armed for every 50 kids should work out just fine.


No it should be a legitimately, properly trained Security Officer. Teachers/employees are overloaded and overwhelmed as is.

Some schools wont be about to pony up that kind of cash for a fulltime employee.

I Okay with it if they can afford it. If not, arm the janitor/anyone who can pass the training. But MANY need to be armed.

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Message 1318475 - Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 22:16:14 UTC - in response to Message 1318468.

ahh the age old answer to gun violence. More guns. Get them in there where the kids can just grab 'em too.

*sigh* When will they ever learn? When will they ever learn.

I know, that's why we send police officers with AR-15's and shotguns to the schools here in Los Angeles. They tripled the number of officers after Newtown. Every campus to get a visit twice a day.



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In a race to the bottom, media conglomerates compete with one another to shock, violate and offend every standard of civilized society by bringing an ever-more-toxic mix of reckless behavior and criminal cruelty into our homes—every minute of every day of every month of every year.


Problem is, Wayne is correct. When is ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, CNN, Disney, Viacom going to pay for the blood on their hands?

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Message 1318479 - Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 22:19:23 UTC
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It's called a----soft target. Ever hear in the news of a crazy man going to a shooting range and dropping 20 NRA members?

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Message 1318498 - Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 23:04:09 UTC - in response to Message 1318479.

It's called a----soft target. Ever hear in the news of a crazy man going to a shooting range and dropping 20 NRA members?

For once ID, I think you have a valid point.

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Message 1318506 - Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 23:40:14 UTC - in response to Message 1318498.

It's called a----soft target. Ever hear in the news of a crazy man going to a shooting range and dropping 20 NRA members?

For once ID, I think you have a valid point.

T.A.


Now for funding it. The Department of Education at the Federal level is unconstitutional. There is NO wording about it at all within the text of our Constitution. It falls under the tenth amendment, up to the state and it's people. Mr. Wayne LaPierre is WAY off base here stating that it needs funding from the Feds. He SHOULD know better. Since he does not he will NOT be getting a check from me till he fixes this HUGE mistake. I'm not a one trick pony. I'm sorry that he is.

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Message 1318510 - Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 23:50:40 UTC
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Today's Opinion poll in the Washington post,

Do you support NRA president Wayne LaPierre's call for "armed police officers" in all schools?

No - 86%

Yes - 14%.

When he finally broke his silence, did Wayne LaPierre even consider that guns might just be the problem, he blamed everybody else except his own organisations opinion.

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Message 1318519 - Posted: 22 Dec 2012, 0:28:23 UTC
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Message 1318528 - Posted: 22 Dec 2012, 0:42:55 UTC - in response to Message 1318510.

Today's Opinion poll in the Washington post,

Do you support NRA president Wayne LaPierre's call for "armed police officers" in all schools?

No - 86%

Yes - 14%.

When he finally broke his silence, did Wayne LaPierre even consider that guns might just be the problem, he blamed everybody else except his own organisations opinion.


You also have to consider the poll. Where was it conducted? Who did they poll? I'm not a fan of polls, never have been. I don't care who conducts them. Or why. It's just someone or a group of someones using statistics to sway an opinion toward an end goal.

I look at it simply this way; we employ armed security guards to guard our banks, credit unions, city, county, state and federal buildings. Our major government contracts (i.e. Boeing, Lockheed and Northrop Grumman) have armed guards at the building enterances. So here's my point... We guard our nations secrets, technology and money, why not guard our nations future as well?

I saw a picture on Facebook that my sister in law posted, to which I had to laugh extremely hard at due to the complete irrelavency that showed a woman holding a sign that read "If a child hit another child with a rock, does that mean that all children shiould have rocks?" It saddens me that so many people just simply do not understand what the second amendment is about.

I'm curious to know why so many people aren't in arms about alcohol (source is from the CDC)...

•In 2010, 10,228 people were killed in alcohol-impaired driving crashes, accounting for nearly one-third (31%) of all traffic-related deaths in the United States.

•Of the 1,210 traffic deaths among children ages 0 to 14 years in 2010, 211 (17%) involved an alcohol-impaired driver.

•Of the 211 child passengers ages 14 and younger who died in alcohol-impaired driving crashes in 2010, over half (131) were riding in the vehicle with the alcohol-impaired driver.

•In 2010, over 1.4 million drivers were arrested for driving under the influence of alcohol or narcotics.3 That's one percent of the 112 million self-reported episodes of alcohol-impaired driving among U.S. adults each year.

•Drugs other than alcohol (e.g., marijuana and cocaine) are involved in about 18% of motor vehicle driver deaths. These other drugs are often used in combination with alcohol.

Just a thought.



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Message 1318540 - Posted: 22 Dec 2012, 1:05:45 UTC
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Message 1318561 - Posted: 22 Dec 2012, 1:44:07 UTC

Well it would improve behaviour wouldn't it?

Of course considering how much stress teachers are under and all the abuse they receive...

Could end up nasty if one of them snapped...and teachers do snap...

The moment 'great teacher' snapped and attacked pupil with dumbbell

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