Independents' thread for discussing gun issues

http://2001-2009.state.gov/p/sca/rls/rm/8784.htm

The additional indictment against Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh, being unsealed today, makes clear that Daniel Pearl was not the first American to fall victim to terror at the hands of Saeed. In October 1994, the indictment charges, Saeed met Bela J. Nuss, an American tourist, at a restaurant in New Delhi while scouting areas of the city known to be frequented by U.S. citizens and other Westerners. As in the case of Daniel Pearl, Saeed carefully selected Nuss, used lies to befriend him, and lured him to an isolated place where he was kidnapped at gunpoint. Also like the case of Daniel Pearl, Nuss was held in brutal isolation and photographed with a gun pointed at his head while Saeed and his co-conspirators communicated their demands to the media.

http://2001-2009.state.gov/p/sca/rls/rm/8784.htm

The additional indictment against Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh, being unsealed today, makes clear that Daniel Pearl was not the first American to fall victim to terror at the hands of Saeed. In October 1994, the indictment charges, Saeed met Bela J. Nuss, an American tourist, at a restaurant in New Delhi while scouting areas of the city known to be frequented by U.S. citizens and other Westerners. As in the case of Daniel Pearl, Saeed carefully selected Nuss, used lies to befriend him, and lured him to an isolated place where he was kidnapped at gunpoint. Also like the case of Daniel Pearl, Nuss was held in brutal isolation and photographed with a gun pointed at his head while Saeed and his co-conspirators communicated their demands to the media.

Nah, you don't need a gun to behead somebody.

http://www.jpost.com/Features/InThespotlight/Article.aspx?id=254616

Unbeknown to Pearl at the time, the men who picked him up had no intention of setting up any interview - let alone with Gilani, whom they did not know. The promise of meeting the Pakistani militant had been a hastily thrown together ruse to lure him into a fairly simple trap. The Islamist kidnappers wanted to use him in order to seek the release of captured militants and terrorists being held by the United States in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

The kidnapping plot was amateur, despite being ultimately fatal. The kidnappers did not even know how to operate the cameras and computers needed to make their demands.

The red Suzuki Swift, with Pearl in the front seat, made its way out of Karachi toward an isolated safe house an hour away. When they arrived, Pearl was ushered out at gunpoint and told to hand over his belongings and disrobe. Still unaware of his hosts’ true intentions, he warily believed the increasingly hostile actions of his kidnappers were simply security measures for the high profile terrorist cleric he was supposed to meet. An hour or two later, after telling him they were bringing food, one of the kidnappers chained Pearl to an old car engine.

http://jewishpreppers.com/2012/12/are-israeli-teachers-armed/

http://www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem/tabid/178/nid/23572/Default.aspx

Hello.
If only more people had balanced hemispheres. :)

http://www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem/tabid/178/nid/23572/Default.aspx

Interesting. The only way I can see it applying to the US is if you also consider the US a war zone.

Is the US a war zone?

http://www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem/tabid/178/nid/23572/Default.aspx

Interesting. The only way I can see it applying to the US is if you also consider the US a war zone.

Is the US a war zone?

Shall we use these message boards as evidence for or against? :)

:p

Why conservatism RULES!

Liberals liked the idea of armed cops in schools before?

George H.W. Bush was outraged by LaPierre and quit the NRA?

From the National Review online http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/336338/columbine-had-armed-guard-daniel-foster# (associated with the magazine of William F. Buckley?)

That’s right, but it isn’t like the deputy was sitting around eating doughnuts during the Columbine massacre. He traded fire (that is, he drew fire) with Harris for an extended period of time, during which Harris’s gun jammed. The deputy and the backup he immediately called for exchanged fire with the shooters a second time and helped begin the evacuation of students, all before the SWAT teams and the rest of the cavalry arrived, and before Harris and Klebold killed themselves in the library. Harris and Klebold had an assault plan — a sloppy plan, but a plan nonetheless. They had dozens of IEDs, some of which detonated, others of which did not. And there were two of them. In this highly chaotic tactical environment, the deputy acted both bravely and prudently, and who knows how many lives he saved by engaging Harris.

Hmmm. Maybe Glenn Beck can help me with the correct translations of late 18th century speech, instead? Certainly, this guy has it wrong. Right, rights?

Hmmm. Maybe Glenn Beck can help me with the correct translations of late 18th century speech, instead? Certainly, this guy has it wrong. Right, rights?

Who here has alluded to this quote?