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Message 1318212 - Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 17:14:34 UTC - in response to Message 1318210.


I continue to support free speech, freedom of (and from) religion, a reasonable right to bear arms (no one needs a surface to air missile at their home, I hope? Can we agree on that much?)


I have far more than the processing power of a surface to air missile right here at home. I choose to use it for searching the stars for other life forms, rather that plotting trajectories to destroy life forms already known to exist here on earth.
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Message 1318231 - Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 17:32:14 UTC - in response to Message 1318209.

I lost a brother to suicide ...

Enough is enough.
That does not give you oneupsmanship on grief or knowledge of our country.
It'd be like a guy, who when he was 7 years old, witnessed his own mother's suicide attempt claiming HE had the corner on grief, and to talk anyway he wanted, and to make any claim he wished about the state of our country.
It's time for you to stop playing that card. Enough is enough.

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Message 1318250 - Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 17:47:48 UTC - in response to Message 1318231.

I lost a brother to suicide ...

Enough is enough.
That does not give you oneupsmanship on grief or knowledge of our country.
It'd be like a guy, who when he was 7 years old, witnessed his own mother's suicide attempt claiming HE had the corner on grief, and to talk anyway he wanted, and to make any claim he wished about the state of our country.
It's time for you to stop playing that card. Enough is enough.

I do not 'play cards' for sympathy, you arse. I simply used the event in my life to try to explain something about what I know regarding mental health issues.

Stand down, son.
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Message 1318252 - Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 17:50:05 UTC

Gentlemen, please calm down. In the spirit of Christmas there is no need for this.

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Message 1318255 - Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 17:53:11 UTC - in response to Message 1318252.
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Gentlemen, please calm down. In the spirit of Christmas there is no need for this.

I am very calm.
These days I rarely get my dander up much.

I just go about explaining my view of the world and others can accept it or not.

I only responded when one addressed me personally and called me down for telling the truth.

Geez, I had not said anything at all about how despondent I wuz when I rolled my '64 Olds F-85.
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Message 1318276 - Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 18:22:54 UTC - in response to Message 1318210.



But above all I think we ALL need to hold our elected officials accountable. And vote them out when they are not responsive.


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Message 1318280 - Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 18:25:56 UTC - in response to Message 1318276.



But above all I think we ALL need to hold our elected officials accountable. And vote them out when they are not responsive.


Best statement of 2012

That only works when elections are not bought and sold.

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Message 1318284 - Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 18:29:54 UTC - in response to Message 1318280.

My vote was not bought and sold. I am not sure about the dubya tax rebates being another story.. or his support from Diebold.

Money will however get you air time on slanted news channels. And not just during the commercials.
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Message 1318290 - Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 18:34:00 UTC

At election time. all major UK political parties are given equal prime TV air time to make party political broadcasts.

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Message 1318293 - Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 18:36:55 UTC - in response to Message 1318284.

My vote was not bought and sold. I am not sure about the dubya tax rebates being another story.. or his support from Diebold.

Money will however get you air time on slanted news channels. And not just during the commercials.

soft one.......
I don't know what your vote was, and I don't wish to know.
I do believe that most on these forums were wise enough to make what I consider the correct choice.
That's my opinion, not necessarily supported by the UCB or anybody else.

If you truly voted your conscience, I grant you that, no matter what it was.

The problem was.....
There were too many ***********************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************.

I had to self delete.....because the truth would hurt too many.
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Message 1318306 - Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 18:49:47 UTC

The Bill of Rights is the collective name for the first ten amendments to the United States Constitution. These limitations serve to protect the natural rights of liberty and property. They guarantee a number of personal freedoms, limit the government's power in judicial and other proceedings, and reserve some powers to the states and the public. While originally the amendments applied only to the federal government, most of their provisions have since been held to apply to the states by way of the Fourteenth Amendment.


The Second Amendment (Amendment II) to the United States Constitution is the part of the United States Bill of Rights that protects the right of the people to keep and bear arms. It was adopted on December 15, 1791, along with the rest of the Bill of Rights.

In 2008 and 2010, the Supreme Court issued two landmark decisions concerning the Second Amendment. In District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), the Court ruled that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to possess a firearm, unconnected to service in a militia and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.


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Message 1318345 - Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 19:29:47 UTC - in response to Message 1318211.

What I find strange about certain people's hatred of Obama, is that he's not a particularly radical president. His policies are fairly right wing. From what I can see he's actually right of Reagan. So what is it about him that inspires so much hatred and vitriol from certain members of the American populace?

Its very odd when you actually look at what he has done and what he stands for.

What is it do you think that makes some ignorant people hate him with such a rabid passion?



One of these men is not like the others.

I can't possibly imagine what it is that inspires such irrational hatred. What on earth could it all be about?

Its such a mystery...


It's not a mystery, ES.

He is an arrogant bas***d who defines his presidency by his defiance of the constitution of this nation and of much of the citizenry he was sworn to represent.

There is no mystery here.

Who told you this, Mark? Where are you getting your information?
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Message 1318367 - Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 19:48:05 UTC - in response to Message 1318345.

What I find strange about certain people's hatred of Obama, is that he's not a particularly radical president. His policies are fairly right wing. From what I can see he's actually right of Reagan. So what is it about him that inspires so much hatred and vitriol from certain members of the American populace?

Its very odd when you actually look at what he has done and what he stands for.

What is it do you think that makes some ignorant people hate him with such a rabid passion?



One of these men is not like the others.

I can't possibly imagine what it is that inspires such irrational hatred. What on earth could it all be about?

Its such a mystery...


It's not a mystery, ES.

He is an arrogant bas***d who defines his presidency by his defiance of the constitution of this nation and of much of the citizenry he was sworn to represent.

There is no mystery here.

Who told you this, Mark? Where are you getting your information?

Duh........CNN???
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Message 1318514 - Posted: 22 Dec 2012, 0:14:46 UTC - in response to Message 1318418.
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which would include their own government." ~ George Washington

That has been my point throughout.
The main point of having an armed public. Not to protect from without, but from evil within.
I am not sure I got that point across without being called a nutter.

Given this country's roots, it's no small wonder that our forefathers wanted to make sure we had the basic right to self defense against all evils. Not just from outside our borders, but from within them as well.

And voicing this safety check, I am a conspiericist?[sp] No, my friends. I am just a realist. And given the divide in the last election, I don't think that voicing such an opinion should be seen as being alarmist. I really don't.

It is my God given opinion that the possibility of an armed insurrection against our government IS possible in the next few years.
I am not trying to incite such. I just know that there are enough REALLY pissed off people in this country that I can see it happening.
Let Obummer raise taxes just one more notch and see what happens.
Republicans are not only right when they fear raising taxes on the rich, they are fearful for their lives.
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Message 1318527 - Posted: 22 Dec 2012, 0:42:22 UTC - in response to Message 1318518.



What would be the chance of them following the law?


About the same chance of a snowball with Obama.

I support the right of an armed populace having the right to defend themselves against Obama's dictatorship.

He is nothing short of Hitler........
You best all re-read your history documents. This is EXACTLY, to a word, how his overtake started. TO A WORD. You had better get a grip on this folks........before it is too late.

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Message 1318535 - Posted: 22 Dec 2012, 0:51:00 UTC
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