I think some from other countries do not underand our bill of rights.

I was always partial to this section of the Declaration of Independence.

Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
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It is a problem of Party, yes.

It's more so a problem of virtue.

When a side does not get it's way they BREAK the Rule of Law to get their way.

Deadlock is a good thing. When nothing is done NOTHING is spent as far as money.

BUT that is not what happens. They BREAK the Rule of Law in order to get their way. THAT is called treason.

They are elected to represent, not to become Dictators.

I was always partial to this section of the Declaration of Independence.

Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Chris, it will take compromise. It will take people working together to try to find some middle ground to deal with. It will take people realizing the 1950's are over and they want their domestic policies back. It will take people to realize that unlike the movies the good guys usually do not have a gun handy when needed, and that it is not a means of negotation, nor democracy, nor anything but brutal intimidation. It will take people having a large cup of calm-the-heck-down and trying to understand this thing we call civilization.

We have always had people who disagreed. Always will have. But it seems they are forgetting how to do anything but have a temper tantrum when things do not go their way.

Sad. Really really sad.


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Janice

You make excuse for what is done to the Rule of Law. That is what is sad. The Rule of Law was made for ALL and is what we ALL agree to as a FRAMEWORK for our LAW. NEVER to be broken for any reason! THAT is why they all swear an OATH to uphold the LAW before GOD and COUNTRY. What is damn SAD is that YOU don't get it!

This is why a third Party is NEEDED and a Party that WILL uphold and demand that the LAW is upheld!

There is NO compromise on the Rule of Law. What is NOT within the Rule of Law is up to the states and the people within that state, such things have NOTHING to do with the Federal Government at all and MUST be passed back down to the state for them to make up THEIR minds on how best to deal with it. And HERE is where virtue comes to play. The federal government MUST understand that it is not "within the Constitution", that takes virtue. Then that MUST passed down and it MUST be OUT of their hands. Then the state must act, or choose to pass it down to the county. They (federal elected and judicial) have become Dictators and THAT is TREASON!

You make excuse for what is done to the Rule of Law. That is what is sad.

You make excuse for what is done to the Rule of Law. That is what is sad. The Rule of Law was made for ALL and is what we ALL agree to as a FRAMEWORK for our LAW. NEVER to be broken for any reason! THAT is why they all swear an OATH to uphold the LAW before GOD and COUNTRY. What is damn SAD is that YOU don't get it!

This is why a third Party is NEEDED and a Party that WILL uphold and demand that the LAW is upheld!

There is NO compromise on the Rule of Law. What is NOT within the Rule of Law is up to the states and the people within that state, such things have NOTHING to do with the Federal Government at all and MUST be passed back down to the state for them to make up THEIR minds on how best to deal with it. And HERE is where virtue comes to play. The federal government MUST understand that it is not "within the Constitution", that takes virtue. Then that MUST passed down and it MUST be OUT of their hands. Then the state must act, or choose to pass it down to the county. They (federal elected and judicial) have become Dictators and THAT is TREASON!

You make excuse for what is done to the Rule of Law. That is what is sad.

*sigh* well beyond my ignore I still read an example of exactly what I am talking about. Temper tantrums with no room to work with anyone.

That is exactly the type of words being screamed at each other that lets no one hear anything. No one is listening because everyone is screaming.

Add the threats and intimidation and you have the definition of the word "Bully".
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It has everything to do with the availability and the stigma attached to getting help if one has an inkling or one's family has an inkling that somebody they love is compromised mentally.

Finally, someone mentions the elephant sitting in the middle of the room.

We know less about the human mind than just about everything else and seem to be determined to remain that way.
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I have seen no recent signs of threats or intimidation from you Mark. Your panic at some things does concern me, but every now and then the rational appears. I do wish you would calm down a bit, this is the same country heading (with the speed of a glacier without global warming) in the same direction it has been. I know you do not like that, but it did not start recently, and it will most likely not stop on either of our lifetimes. I would like to see some constitutional guarantees restored, such as against unwarranted searches, wire taps, things that were suspended well before the current administration. I do not believe anyone or any agency is above the law, I do not believe consigning it to "private enterprise" is a legitimate bypass of the guarantees.

I continue to support free speech, freedom of (and from) religion, a reasonable right to bear arms (no one needs a surface to air missile at their home, I hope? Can we agree on that much?)

But above all I think we ALL need to hold our elected officials accountable. And vote them out when they are not responsive. I do not however think anyone taking up arms is going to help the situation.

In fact the glaring issues I see, no one is even talking about. It is lonely off on the left. *sniff*.
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