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betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Be careful I.D. you say it is a letter to his grandson. So that would be someone with the surname Eppes or Randolph. Winter, please don't red x ID, his words need to be heard, they clearly expose the warped ideas he endorses. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
ID, I'm all for free speech, and the open exchange of ideas. |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
Be careful I.D. you say it is a letter to his grandson. So that would be someone with the surname Eppes or Randolph. Everybody that's tried to help you understand that the link you provided in the OP is not to the thing you believe it to be. and for what? For failing to realize the error you made, despite repeated attempts to draw your attention to it. Bobby? I have him blocked and I can't see what he writes! And yet you still appeared to suggest I read a book rather than use a browser search in order to find something that does not appear to be on the page you linked. You may think you've discovered a cunning plan to send others off on wild goose chases, or you may have made an error. At the moment I'm prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt and think the latter. Please do as WK requested (see above in bold). I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
MOMMY: He is MAKING ME Read His Posts Thoughts and Prayers. GOoD Thoughts and GOoD Prayers. HATERWORLD Vs THOUGHTs and PRAYERs World. It Is a BATTLE ROYALE. Nobody LOVEs Me. Everybody HATEs Me. Why Don't I Go Eat Worms. Tasty Treats are Wormy Meat. Yes Send message Joined: 16 Jun 02 Posts: 6895 Credit: 6,588,977 RAC: 0 |
Also read the letter to his grandson, Thomas Jefferson Randolph, written November 24, 1808, in which he gave advice on character and education. . . . Be a listener only, keep within yourself, and endeavor to establish with yourself the habit of silence, especially on politics. In the fevered state of our country, no good can ever result from any attempt to set one of these fiery zealots to rights, either in fact or principle. . . . Get by them, therefore, as you would by an angry bull; it is not for a man of sense to dispute the road with such an animal. You will be more exposed than others to have these animals shaking their horns at you, because of the relation in which you stand with me. TJ to gSon TJR DEMON...HOT Link May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
Also read the letter to his grandson, Thomas Jefferson Randolph, written November 24, 1808, in which he gave advice on character and education. There ya go my friend! THATS the one. And Im not shocked at all you seen it! Not at all! Later that young man--[at the time], proved that his Grandfather helped write the Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions! I.D.--WHITE HOT!!!!! LOL! |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
Also read the letter to his grandson, Thomas Jefferson Randolph, written November 24, 1808, in which he gave advice on character and education. So a letter that does not mention nullification or Kentucky, was not included in the book linked in the OP, is the one I.D. meant all along? Right! Oh and the Grandson did indeed help show his Grandfather's involvement in the writing of the Kentucky Resolution, though I believe it was Madison who provided most assistance with the one for Virginia, and Madison was not an advocate of nullification. Neither was Lincoln for that matter. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6497 Credit: 34,134,168 RAC: 0 |
... And it warns about dealing with fringe loonies? Hmm kinda hard to argue with things like that.. Janice |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
... And it warns about dealing with fringe loonies? You wouldn't be suggesting we have our own group of fiery zealots would you? I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
MOMMY: He is MAKING ME Read His Posts Thoughts and Prayers. GOoD Thoughts and GOoD Prayers. HATERWORLD Vs THOUGHTs and PRAYERs World. It Is a BATTLE ROYALE. Nobody LOVEs Me. Everybody HATEs Me. Why Don't I Go Eat Worms. Tasty Treats are Wormy Meat. Yes Send message Joined: 16 Jun 02 Posts: 6895 Credit: 6,588,977 RAC: 0 |
You wouldn't be suggesting we have our own group of fiery zealots would you? Yep. GOREbal Warming Zealots/Loonies. Solar/Wind Turbine Alt. Energy Zealots-Loonies. Hustlin' Hussein Making Better World Zealots/Loonies. Fossil Fuel Hatin' Zealots/Loonies. Union Thug Loving Zealots/Loonies. On and On. Yep. DEMON...Zealots/Loonies On FIRE. aka as HOT. May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! |
soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6497 Credit: 34,134,168 RAC: 0 |
... And it warns about dealing with fringe loonies? I would not suggest such a thing at all Bobby. I am saying it outright. Janice |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
You wouldn't be suggesting we have our own group of fiery zealots would you? I'd have to call them zealots Demon. Ya, you're 100% correct. Im my state a man stood up in our Statehouse in Springfield [an elected man] and yelled "THERE WILL BE BLOOD!" Made me think of another letter from Jefferson, to a different family member... "As to the species of exercise, I advise the gun. While this gives a moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise, and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks." - Thomas Jefferson, 1785 I.D. WHITE HOT and melting on the edges! |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30648 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
I.D. WHITE HOT and melting on the edges! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl5gBJGnaXs Yep, white hot, and frying on the edges. |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
Sober as a judge. Wrongly accused and judged by you..... |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
which part? /me still wondering which part of those hundreds of pages I was supposed to get any idea on what the actual subject is supposed to be... In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30648 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Doesn't matter how you get there, acid or incense and chanting, the result is the same, altered mental state. At least the first nations peyote users are honest about religion. Die Religion ... ist das Opium des Volkes. |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong." -Thomas Jefferson (Notes on Virginia, 1782) |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong." A case for agnosticism/atheism? Surely not :) I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19059 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
I.D. Please can you state where you are coming from? In your earlier arguments you made lots of quotes from the federalist papers and especially James Madison, who today would be a Democrat. But now you are quoting lots of Thomas Jefferson (Republican) who was an anti-federalist. I am confused, unless all you think, is that anything before 1900 is good and everything after is bad. |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
It's called grasping at straws. He's pulling up old political figures that have nothing to do with modern genetic theory or Evolution and transplanting their words into some chimera of a plan perhaps intelligent but most certainly meandering In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30648 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
It's called grasping at straws. +1 |
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