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Message 1312626 - Posted: 8 Dec 2012, 16:27:44 UTC
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Mark I really do think you are pushing the point too hard. Politicians are politicians, irrespective of party and no matter which party is in charge things never really change much.

If you could jump to an alternate reality where McCain had won in 2008 and had just been re-elected for his second term, apart from The Daily Show having a ball with Sarah Palin jokes I doubt you would notice much difference.

Government debt would be about the same as would unemployment. The GOP might have even made some sort of move on public health care.

America's problems did not appear out of thin air when Obama got elected and there is no magic spell to solve them overnight.

The true government of the US resides in Wall Street, not DC.

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Message 1312762 - Posted: 8 Dec 2012, 23:15:26 UTC

Waiting with guns drawn?
Your belief in democracy, the constitution and the concept of civil governance is truly heartwarming.
Now go sit in the corner and allow the grown ups to run the country.
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Message 1312852 - Posted: 9 Dec 2012, 1:58:53 UTC

Mark, Timothy McVeigh had thoughts like yours, not a good thing.
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Message 1312900 - Posted: 9 Dec 2012, 5:30:39 UTC

You know, I too had thoughts that this country was done for. It had tryrants for leaders, who destroyed and suspended the constitution, made it unbearable for decent people to live their lives free. They destroyed the hopes and dreams of millions, and built things to suit themselves with no thought of the common person. I was ready to move south to find a safe place.

But then we elected Obama and a glimmer of hope returned. Much still needs fixed, but it was a start.


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Message 1312919 - Posted: 9 Dec 2012, 6:33:05 UTC - in response to Message 1312900.

But then we elected Obama and

The rape of the constitution tripled.

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Message 1312921 - Posted: 9 Dec 2012, 6:39:12 UTC - in response to Message 1312919.

But then we elected Obama and

The rape of the constitution tripled.


Actually it SLOWLY started heading back on track.
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Message 1312932 - Posted: 9 Dec 2012, 7:45:10 UTC - in response to Message 1312921.

But then we elected Obama and

The rape of the constitution tripled.


Actually it SLOWLY started heading back on track.

Really?!! A demand that the president can raise the debt ceiling without the a bill originating in the House of Representatives? You have read the constitution haven't you? Bills pending to repeal the fourth amendment protection against unreasonable search and seizure? And you think it is getting better?!!!


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Message 1312933 - Posted: 9 Dec 2012, 7:49:42 UTC

One thing this year no raise in SS....

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Message 1312936 - Posted: 9 Dec 2012, 7:52:14 UTC - in response to Message 1312933.

One thing this year no raise in SS....

That is a bureaucratic function, and we can thank the Fed for that. Of course we will have inflation numbers to put Ford and Carter to shame in short order.

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Message 1312948 - Posted: 9 Dec 2012, 9:15:32 UTC

Let me inject a little humour here,

Mr Burns explains the fiscal cliff

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Message 1313063 - Posted: 9 Dec 2012, 14:26:59 UTC
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Message 1313105 - Posted: 9 Dec 2012, 15:16:53 UTC - in response to Message 1313063.

We lost our protections against warrantless searches, before Obama.
We resume our fight to maintain the seperation of church and state.. with Obama.
We resume our fight for equality, with Obama.

There is much to do. But as I said, there is still hope. I had none with Dubya. Remember that "Love it or leave it" stuff you used to give back in the 60' and 70's? Well SEE YA!! We like it here.
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Message 1313120 - Posted: 9 Dec 2012, 15:38:53 UTC
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Message 1313167 - Posted: 9 Dec 2012, 17:44:02 UTC - in response to Message 1313063.

We have a growing population of sheep in our nation.

We do need anti sheep classes in every grade. Teach them that no one gives a rats ass about them. No bureaucrat. No government. No God. The only person that cares about you is yourself. There is no entitlement. So if you want to wallow in self pity expect to be very hungry and die early.

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