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A good charger will charge the battery at the appropriate rate so as not to produce any hydrogen. Which is why adding a car battery to a UPS is wrong. The charger isn't designed to charge a car battery. ____________ | |
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A good charger will charge the battery at the appropriate rate so as not to produce any hydrogen. A SLA battery requires a lower charge rate than a car battery, which is why putting a car battery on a UPS isn't an issue. A really cheap UPS may have problems because the time to fully charge a large capacity battery is that much longer. But it's the cheap UPS that might have problems, not the battery. Many car batteries these days are maintenance free- ie sealed. Just like the smaller capacity batteries used in UPSs. ____________ Grant Darwin NT. | |
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I've read that telephone offices used to be required to have a UPS that could keep everything essential in that office running for three days. You might ask telephone offices if they have one they can donate. Warning - expect it to fill an entire room; I've seen one. It had a large rack of 2 volt cells, made with lead and something other than the usual acid. | |
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I've read that telephone offices used to be required to have a UPS that could keep everything essential in that office running for three days. You might ask telephone offices if they have one they can donate. Warning - expect it to fill an entire room; I've seen one. It had a large rack of 2 volt cells, made with lead and something other than the usual acid. I kinda think they might just be a bit too large!:-) Also they supplied 50V That is an accurate picture of a UK telephone exchange battery room as I used to work in telephone exchanges. I think that most nowadays have diesel generators ____________ | |
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The UPS for each of my desktops has a connection to that desktop that allows it to tell that desktop that it is running low on power, and that desktop should use the rest for going into sleep mode (suspending nearly all programs, then writing the contents of the entire memory to a hard drive, then adjusting the boot procedure to reload memory from that hard drive file instead of a normal boot, then turning off the power). Are your servers capable of that? As mentioned in the first post of this thread- there are so many dependancies between the systems that setting somthing like that up (combined with hardware flakyness) makes that pretty much impossible. ____________ Grant Darwin NT. | |
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A UPS is an emergency-use item, one that will sit unattended for long periods but when you want it, it has to work first time every time or it is worthless, and you wasted the money you spent. That's why it's a false economy to buy a cheap one. | |
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I've read that telephone offices used to be required to have a UPS that could keep everything essential in that office running for three days. You might ask telephone offices if they have one they can donate. Warning - expect it to fill an entire room; I've seen one. It had a large rack of 2 volt cells, made with lead and something other than the usual acid. That is similar to what I remember from my school field trip to the nearby AT&T Long Lines facility in about 1983. They told us the batteries only needed to last for the 90 seconds or so it took for the diesel generator to start up. ____________ David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. | |
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That is an accurate picture of a UK telephone exchange battery room as I used to work in telephone exchanges. I think that most nowadays have diesel generators A standard BT 50V battery room, which provided the ringing and telephony current. What was fun was seeing a spanner dropped across the overhead aluminium busbars and seeing it welded to them. Bernie is correct, all major Exchanges have standby diesel generators. No UPS will last for more than about 2 hours. The whole point of them is to allow the protected equipment to shut down safely without corruption of data. | |
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That is an accurate picture of a UK telephone exchange battery room as I used to work in telephone exchanges. I think that most nowadays have diesel generators Something about this reminds me of a UPS / Generator at an airfield. The UPS was good for 15 minutes. The generator had a 5 gallon tank - which was hooked up by a pump to the tank farm that the aircraft used... During the first power outage that lasted more than 20 minutes, the power to the computers went off. The installer of the generator was called as it was not running. They arrived, and tested it. Nothing wrong they said. During the second power outage that lasted more than 20 minutes the same thing happened. During the third power outage that lasted more than 20 minutes and actually lasted more than 5 hours, the installers were able to get to the installation before the power turned back on. Remember that 5 gallon tank? It was empty. the pump that kept it full was connected to the mains side of the generator and was disconnected when the power was off. ____________ BOINC WIKI | |
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more than one technician has been bitten by the blatantly obvious,like is it plugged in is it turned on, it happens all the time we just have to learn from it and go on.LOLRL | |
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more than one technician has been bitten by the blatantly obvious,like is it plugged in is it turned on, it happens all the time we just have to learn from it and go on.LOLRL One of my favorite tech support calls that I overheard: Customer: "Your program won't print to my printer brand X. It won't even recognize that it is there." Tech support: "Is it plugged in?" Customer: "Of course it is plugged in. It is always plugged in". Tech: "Would you please check?" Phone line: "Click". ____________ BOINC WIKI | |
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my favored was after 35 min the client say's I need to get another cell phone | |
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