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Team kizb Send message Joined: 8 Mar 01 Posts: 219 Credit: 3,709,162 RAC: 0	Message 1311357 - Posted: 5 Dec 2012, 18:19:08 UTC
	First post in six days! Now back to crunching! (maybe) ____________ My Computers: █ Blue Offline █ Green Offline █ Red Offline
	ID: 1311357 ·

Sakletare Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 131 Credit: 20,708,175 RAC: 6,643	Message 1311363 - Posted: 5 Dec 2012, 18:29:57 UTC
	Yes... what's up with this outage? A week due to a power failure? Didn't we get them extra UPS the last time?
	ID: 1311363 ·

S@NL Etienne Dokkum Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 11 Jun 99 Posts: 159 Credit: 15,409,297 RAC: 27,542	Message 1311369 - Posted: 5 Dec 2012, 18:37:27 UTC
	At least there is Life again on planet Seti Now see if wu's can come my way... ____________
	ID: 1311369 ·

WezH Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 78 Credit: 3,274,139 RAC: 1,790	Message 1311378 - Posted: 5 Dec 2012, 18:44:27 UTC
	What I do know (after reading other forums) backup/replica database was/is biggest problem. Last SSP shows that carolyn is disabled.
	ID: 1311378 ·

Bernie Vine Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 6824 Credit: 24,652,861 RAC: 26,807	Message 1311381 - Posted: 5 Dec 2012, 18:45:38 UTC
	Well the cricket is rising ____________ Today is life, the only life we're sure of. Make the most of today.
	ID: 1311381 ·

EdwardPF Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Jul 99 Posts: 237 Credit: 48,543,436 RAC: 89,407	Message 1311383 - Posted: 5 Dec 2012, 18:52:06 UTC - in response to Message 1311357.
	First post in six days! Now back to crunching! (maybe) O.K. BIG Iron!! this little Atom never finished it's queue ... still crunching old stuff :-) still happy Ed F
	ID: 1311383 ·

Cosmic_Ocean Send message Joined: 23 Dec 00 Posts: 2239 Credit: 8,457,905 RAC: 4,112	Message 1311387 - Posted: 5 Dec 2012, 18:55:00 UTC - in response to Message 1311363.
	Yes... what's up with this outage? A week due to a power failure? Didn't we get them extra UPS the last time? The power went down and the array on the database server decided it was degraded, so it went through a mandatory rebuild which took much longer than expected. Once that was completed, it was expected that the database itself could be restored from a backup in a short period of time, but that, too, took longer than expected. ____________ Linux laptop uptime: 1484d 22h 42m Ended due to UPS failure, found 14 hours after the fact
	ID: 1311387 ·

N9JFE David S Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 10764 Credit: 13,499,336 RAC: 15,054	Message 1311486 - Posted: 5 Dec 2012, 21:07:37 UTC - in response to Message 1311369.
	At least there is Life again on planet Seti Now see if wu's can come my way... All three of my machines have reported. The two small ones still have old work left. The i7 has been assigned *ONE* new WU. (Perhaps it realizes it has too much Einstein on board again.) ____________ David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri.
	ID: 1311486 ·

BarryAZ Send message Joined: 1 Apr 01 Posts: 2580 Credit: 11,908,439 RAC: 3,811	Message 1311495 - Posted: 5 Dec 2012, 21:32:46 UTC - in response to Message 1311486.
	No joy here -- I'm leaving SETI suspended, working other projects. When I am able to report completed work, I figure to restart SETI with no new work to clear out the existing work units. Then if things stay stable for a while, to restart downloads. At least there is Life again on planet Seti Now see if wu's can come my way... All three of my machines have reported. The two small ones still have old work left. The i7 has been assigned *ONE* new WU. (Perhaps it realizes it has too much Einstein on board again.)
	ID: 1311495 ·

Snowmain Send message Joined: 17 Nov 05 Posts: 74 Credit: 10,188,465 RAC: 16,891	Message 1311496 - Posted: 5 Dec 2012, 21:38:30 UTC Last modified: 5 Dec 2012, 21:43:22 UTC
	Well that one pushed me over the edge. I have done nothing but seti ever(for 10 years disregard join date I lost my old account somehow)...now I split with Milkyway.... Wish this project wasn't on such a shoe string budget...Wish I wasn't on such a shoe string budget so I could donate more(some). Hope my quad core and gtx 570 classie make a worthy contribution splitting there time with a second project. Wish there was a more seti like project than milkyway to get down on. ____________
	ID: 1311496 ·

Andy Lee Robinson Send message Joined: 8 Dec 05 Posts: 615 Credit: 39,531,610 RAC: 32,015	Message 1311505 - Posted: 5 Dec 2012, 22:03:03 UTC
	Yay! and http://setistats.haveland.com came back too without any twiddling.
	ID: 1311505 ·

juan BFB Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 16 Mar 07 Posts: 4946 Credit: 270,731,711 RAC: 393,397	Message 1311522 - Posted: 5 Dec 2012, 22:44:58 UTC - in response to Message 1311496. Last modified: 5 Dec 2012, 22:45:31 UTC
	Well that one pushed me over the edge. I have done nothing but seti ever(for 10 years disregard join date I lost my old account somehow)...now I split with Milkyway.... Wish this project wasn't on such a shoe string budget...Wish I wasn't on such a shoe string budget so I could donate more(some). Hope my quad core and gtx 570 classie make a worthy contribution splitting there time with a second project. Wish there was a more seti like project than milkyway to get down on. You should try Einstein@home uses almost the same ideia of SETI, but in place to find an ET they try to find Pulsars, Gravity Waves, etc. ____________
	ID: 1311522 ·

zoom314 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 45804 Credit: 36,425,994 RAC: 6,843	Message 1311530 - Posted: 5 Dec 2012, 22:52:44 UTC - in response to Message 1311522.
	Well that one pushed me over the edge. I have done nothing but seti ever(for 10 years disregard join date I lost my old account somehow)...now I split with Milkyway.... Wish this project wasn't on such a shoe string budget...Wish I wasn't on such a shoe string budget so I could donate more(some). Hope my quad core and gtx 570 classie make a worthy contribution splitting there time with a second project. Wish there was a more seti like project than milkyway to get down on. You should try Einstein@home uses almost the same ideia of SETI, but in place to find an ET they try to find Pulsars, Gravity Waves, etc. And Einstein seems to fit hand and glove with Seti, which I like, looking for black holes and such, it's something to do, I'm doing 4 at a time on the 590. ____________
	ID: 1311530 ·

Sarge Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 9201 Credit: 1,358,313 RAC: 1,666	Message 1311588 - Posted: 6 Dec 2012, 1:07:24 UTC - in response to Message 1311357.
	Why would RACs go down during an outage? No one's done more or less work than another, so shouldn't RACs freeze during an 8 or so day outage?
	ID: 1311588 ·

Silesius Send message Joined: 3 Mar 12 Posts: 5 Credit: 589,837 RAC: 26	Message 1311594 - Posted: 6 Dec 2012, 1:31:19 UTC
	A week long outage...makes me question whether this project is worth the electricity on spend on it
	ID: 1311594 ·

betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 2131 Credit: 4,428,250 RAC: 7,821	Message 1311596 - Posted: 6 Dec 2012, 1:35:37 UTC - in response to Message 1311588. Last modified: 6 Dec 2012, 1:35:51 UTC
	Why would RACs go down during an outage? No one's done more or less work than another, so shouldn't RACs freeze during an 8 or so day outage? No, RAC is derived over time. ____________
	ID: 1311596 ·

bill Send message Joined: 16 Jun 99 Posts: 859 Credit: 22,386,456 RAC: 16,305	Message 1311598 - Posted: 6 Dec 2012, 1:44:29 UTC - in response to Message 1311594.
	A week long outage...makes me question whether this project is worth the electricity on spend on it If you don't think it's worth it, why are you still here?
	ID: 1311598 ·

Sarge Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 9201 Credit: 1,358,313 RAC: 1,666	Message 1311605 - Posted: 6 Dec 2012, 2:32:26 UTC - in response to Message 1311596. Last modified: 6 Dec 2012, 2:32:46 UTC
	Why would RACs go down during an outage? No one's done more or less work than another, so shouldn't RACs freeze during an 8 or so day outage? No, RAC is derived over time. And all crunchers were, in effect, in a time out. Thus, project-wise, no time passed.
	ID: 1311605 ·

betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 2131 Credit: 4,428,250 RAC: 7,821	Message 1311610 - Posted: 6 Dec 2012, 3:15:24 UTC - in response to Message 1311605.
	Why would RACs go down during an outage? No one's done more or less work than another, so shouldn't RACs freeze during an 8 or so day outage? No, RAC is derived over time. And all crunchers were, in effect, in a time out. Thus, project-wise, no time passed. Yes, the project was stalled but real time was not, therefore everybody's RAC fell. ____________
	ID: 1311610 ·

Keith White Send message Joined: 29 May 99 Posts: 370 Credit: 2,706,482 RAC: 2,250	Message 1311622 - Posted: 6 Dec 2012, 5:18:49 UTC - in response to Message 1311588. Last modified: 6 Dec 2012, 5:30:52 UTC
	Why would RACs go down during an outage? No one's done more or less work than another, so shouldn't RACs freeze during an 8 or so day outage? Well according to the unofficial BOINC wiki, RAC is calculated by summing the old RAC after a decay factor is applied (the rate is 50% every 7 days) based on the amount of time passed since the last time a unit was validated, with the number of credits the newly validated unit had. Now since we've all been offline for about 6 days as soon as one of the units we reported gets validated with a wingman, the RAC gets recalculated and our RAC drops to around 55% of what it was. Of course after we've all got around to reporting our units to the server and the server got around to validate them, our RAC would bounce back up somewhat, but still nowhere near the amount of credits that would be normal if, well, everything was normal. Of course that assumes that the equation in the unofficial BOINC wiki is correct. ____________ "Life is just nature's way of keeping meat fresh." - The Doctor
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