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Message 1397316 - Posted: 1 Aug 2013, 0:18:50 UTC
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When this blows up, this will be a World-Wide event for the aftermath:


Arctic methane catastrophe scenario is based on new empirical observations

Critics of ... costs of Arctic warming ignore latest science on permafrost methane at everyone's peril

"The mechanism which is causing the observed mass of rising methane plumes in the East Siberian Sea is itself unprecedented ... What is actually happening is that the summer sea ice now retreats so far, and for so long each summer, that there is a substantial ice-free season over the Siberian shelf, sufficient for solar irradiance to warm the surface water by a significant amount – up to 7 deg C according to satellite data.

That warming extends ... to the seabed because we are dealing with only a polar surface water layer here (over the shelves the Arctic Ocean structure is one-layer rather than three layers) ...

So long as some ice persisted on the shelf, the water mass was held to about 0 deg C in summer because any further heat content in the water column was used for melting the ice underside. But once the ice disappears, as it has done, the temperature of the water can rise significantly, and the heat content reaching the seabed can melt the frozen sediments at a rate that was never before possible. ..."




Unfortunately, this is all following long held predictions. The only surprise is in the great size of the observed multiple 150km wide plumes.

There are multiple tipping points. How many can we trip?

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Message 1433997 - Posted: 26 Oct 2013, 14:21:04 UTC
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Rolling along the road to turning ourselves into fossils ever faster:


How David Cameron's energy pricing reforms put my gas bill up 583%

Donnachadh McCarthy used energy-saving measures and renewable power to reduce his gas bill...



North Dakota recorded 300 oil spills in two years without notifying the public

... 750 'oil field incidents' after officials kept the massive September wheat field spill quiet until discovered...



Keystone XL and Canadian tar sands are incompatible with solving climate change

Canada will not be able to meet its greenhouse gas emissions targets if Keystone XL is built and tar sands are expanded

The exploitation of the tar sands in Alberta, Canada - which may contain more oil than the entire world has consumed to date – has attracted considerable controversy...





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Message 1434696 - Posted: 28 Oct 2013, 10:44:41 UTC - in response to Message 1433997.  
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How David Cameron's energy pricing reforms put my gas bill up 583%

Donnachadh McCarthy used energy-saving measures and renewable power to reduce his gas bill...

I'm with him on this.
Consumer group Which? also called for the scrapping of standing-charges so people can easily see what the cheapest deal is.
The heating in my house hasn't been on since March. The shower is electric, and i have a dishwasher, so the boiler is usually off completely since i don't really need it for hot water. Yet i still have a 14p/day standing charge on the gas so i'm paying just under £5/month despite having used two units in 7 months.
Similar story for the water, the standard charge frequently outweighs the cost of water actually used.
Electricity is the only resource that i use more than the SC worth of consistently, so that one is less important, but i still think they ought to be scrapped, along with this 'green tax'.
Cameron’s flat tariffs are an attack on the poor and eco-friendly, just like his attack this week on 'green taxes' on energy bills that pay for energy-efficiency measures for the poor.
Not for me though, i'm only a lowly PDRA, still paying off my debts from University, so i end up reasonably poor. But because i'm prepared to work for a living rather than sitting on my backside watching Trisha, i don't qualify for any of these measures that the unwashed get handed to them on a plate. So yes, scrap these 'green' measures and give the benefits to those who deserve them, i.e. me!

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Message 1434699 - Posted: 28 Oct 2013, 11:03:57 UTC

Reality Check: Germany's Defective Green Energy Game Plan

Without effective storage for green energy, coal is the back-up, other systems too costly.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/commentary-why-germany-is-waging-its-green-revolution-wrong-a-929693.html
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Message 1434700 - Posted: 28 Oct 2013, 11:07:11 UTC

Oi you, not having that!

Standing charges are levied on everyone as basically a rent on the meter. It is of course up to you when or if you choose to use the gas or electricity. But you are paying for it to be available 24/7 should you choose to use it. You can ask to be upgraded to a water meter, for low users that will save money, a family with 3 kids might even pay more.

Cameron is just the figurehead of his Party, don't blame him personally, blame the policy makers of his party, and the energy companies the "Big Six".

i don't qualify for any of these measures that the unwashed get handed to them on a plate.

Thank you! Just shows how out of touch with Sirius is with real people :-)

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Message 1434704 - Posted: 28 Oct 2013, 12:02:29 UTC - in response to Message 1434700.  
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Oi you, not having that!

Standing charges are levied on everyone as basically a rent on the meter. It is of course up to you when or if you choose to use the gas or electricity. But you are paying for it to be available 24/7 should you choose to use it. You can ask to be upgraded to a water meter, for low users that will save money, a family with 3 kids might even pay more.
I'm already on a water meter, that's not helping.

Cameron is just the figurehead of his Party, don't blame him personally, blame the policy makers of his party, and the energy companies the "Big Six".
He's the representative, i know he's not personally responsible, but he is the one who was appointed essentially as the PR man, so he's the one to whom complaints are directed.

i don't qualify for any of these measures that the unwashed get handed to them on a plate.

Thank you! Just shows how out of touch with Sirius is with real people :-)
Where does he come into this?
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Message 1434714 - Posted: 28 Oct 2013, 12:29:10 UTC

I'm already on a water meter, that's not helping.

I'm surprised. Usually single occupancy dwellings are better off as they use less water than the average 2.4 family does.

i don't qualify for any of these measures that the unwashed get handed to them on a plate.

Thank you! Just shows how out of touch with Sirius is with real people :-)

Where does he come into this?

A little while ago I referred to the on benefits Hoi polloi as the "Great Unwashed". Sirius accused me of being classist and snobbish. It's nice to know that I'm not, although I never thought I was anyway :-)

appointed essentially as the PR man, so he's the one to whom complaints are directed.

Yes that is true. But the individual Ministers are responsible for defining the policies followed, advised by their Civil Servants. Have a bash at the people that really decide what we all do.


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Message 1434730 - Posted: 28 Oct 2013, 13:28:53 UTC - in response to Message 1434714.  

I'm already on a water meter, that's not helping.

I'm surprised. Usually single occupancy dwellings are better off as they use less water than the average 2.4 family does.
In terms of volume used, it possibly does, but i still have to pay more on standing charge than i do on actual water, which was my original point.

i don't qualify for any of these measures that the unwashed get handed to them on a plate.

Thank you! Just shows how out of touch with Sirius is with real people :-)

Where does he come into this?

A little while ago I referred to the on benefits Hoi polloi as the "Great Unwashed". Sirius accused me of being classist and snobbish. It's nice to know that I'm not, although I never thought I was anyway :-)
It's a broad generalisation, but judging by the examples i usually meet on the bus, accurate.

appointed essentially as the PR man, so he's the one to whom complaints are directed.

Yes that is true. But the individual Ministers are responsible for defining the policies followed, advised by their Civil Servants. Have a bash at the people that really decide what we all do.
That should be his job, we tell him what we want (or don't want), he kicks the relevant departments into line (call me an idealist). Otherwise, what is he for?


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