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Message 1309187 - Posted: 23 Nov 2012, 9:27:06 UTC

Argentina willing to go to U.S. Supreme Court in bond row

(Reuters) - Argentina will appeal a U.S federal court ruling ordering it to pay $1.33 billion to holdout bond investors, the government said on Thursday, vowing to fight "judicial colonialism" all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court if necessary.


P. S. Couldn't resist the title after the last Argentinian thread that is closed.
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Message 1309230 - Posted: 23 Nov 2012, 12:11:10 UTC

No wonder the "Malvinas" are back on the menu!
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Message 1309500 - Posted: 23 Nov 2012, 23:02:55 UTC

Now the motorcycling world gets involved.

MotoGP postpones Argentinian round due to political rows
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Message 1310117 - Posted: 25 Nov 2012, 10:25:26 UTC

A nice comment made about the Argentian President: -

"This is the way she [Kirchner] operates. It’s just cheap and nasty politics from a cheap and nasty politician."

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Message 1310126 - Posted: 25 Nov 2012, 10:51:26 UTC

Agree with the sabre rattling, but as the past has already proven, those sabres do end up cutting rather than rattle.

If that happens, just who is going to retake the islands? Our lot?

What with? No carriers, no long range bombers & can you see the Euro Army doing it?

With the way the EU is working on the financial crisis with their useless summits, one would be looking at years before any military agreement would be forthcoming!

The Yanks certainly hasn't helped by cancelling their tours - their only thoughta are the loss of $$$$$.
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Message 1310128 - Posted: 25 Nov 2012, 11:11:13 UTC - in response to Message 1310126.  

Agree with the sabre rattling, but as the past has already proven, those sabres do end up cutting rather than rattle.

If that happens, just who is going to retake the islands? Our lot?

What with? No carriers, no long range bombers & can you see the Euro Army doing it?

With the way the EU is working on the financial crisis with their useless summits, one would be looking at years before any military agreement would be forthcoming!

The Yanks certainly hasn't helped by cancelling their tours - their only thoughta are the loss of $$$$$.

The latest report I saw on the Argentian Forces said that for the most part, because of their economic position, that they do not have the capability to perform another invasion.

For one very important reason, they are still operating the same aircraft as they had in the 1980's and the few aircraft we do have down there are more than a match for them.
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Message 1310274 - Posted: 25 Nov 2012, 19:46:54 UTC

I have to ask that with the tensions between the U.K. and Argentina why did you guys retire an aircraft carrier before your new one came online?

Seems to me you should have a couple of air squadrons right on the Island also.

But submarines can be an equalizer.
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Message 1310348 - Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 0:27:56 UTC - in response to Message 1310274.  

I have to ask that with the tensions between the U.K. and Argentina why did you guys retire an aircraft carrier before your new one came online?

Seems to me you should have a couple of air squadrons right on the Island also.

But submarines can be an equalizer.

Knowing how things work here, even a fish boat will be enough to keep the islands safe... ;D
I'm pretty sure, that both countries, or better said, politicians from both countries are using all this steamy discussions just to divert atention from other things... Grab a bag of popcorn and watch the next episode tomorrow at the same time in the same channel...

Oh, by the way, to those "vultures" that want their money back... good luck... knowing how stubborn our president is, they are not going to get their money not even breaking her legs and arms... (or the legs and arms of the rest of us, which is the most probable thing that's going to happen).
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Message 1310565 - Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 19:34:00 UTC

In the end the U.S. MUST maintain good relations with Argentina. There is too much coffee at stake!! The british might opt for tea instead, but that is simply not an option here.
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Message 1310595 - Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 21:28:22 UTC - in response to Message 1310581.  
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I have to ask that with the tensions between the U.K. and Argentina why did you guys retire an aircraft carrier before your new one came online?

James,

Our current government inherited the worst peacetime debt since WWII from the Labour party. Cuts have had to be made across all sorts of Government departments, and the MOD was no exception. The 2010 Strategic Defence Review came to the conclusion that the UK did not need it's own independent deterrent force. It was argued that wars and conflicts in the future would not be between two individual countries, such as in 1982, but a coalition of countries against a common enemy, as we saw in Iraq, and Libya, and pobably will do in Syria and Iran.

Translation: The USA will just have to run its printing presses faster to fund our defense, because we are broke and ran out of paper and ink.

Note: China isn't playing the game.

Observation: Last time the world wound down its military but a couple countries didn't go along we had a World War.

Prediction: Crystal ball says "Learn Mandarin"

<ED> Yes a tad O/T re: Argentina. Sorry in advance.
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Message 1310871 - Posted: 27 Nov 2012, 23:39:04 UTC - in response to Message 1310581.  

Our current government inherited the worst peacetime debt since WWII from the Labour party.

Cameron become PM on 11th May 2010, the UK Fiscal Year 2009 ended on March 31st 2010, at the end of FY 2009 UK public debt as a percentage of GDP stood at 44.26, at the end of FY 2010 it stood at 52.08, and end of FY 2011 at 59.97% GDP. Looks like, if your statement was true, the coalition will be able to rob Labour of the record soon enough.

However, it's not true, for no FY between 1917 and 1970 was UK debt less than 60% GDP. As there was more than one government between 1945 and 1970, using debt as a %age of GDP as the measure, all inherited worse peacetime debts than the coalition inherited from Labour. Also, UK troops in Afghanistan might take offense at your statement that the last election occurred during peacetime.

Source.

Alternatively, play this and substitute the word "Republican" with "Conservative".

I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1310979 - Posted: 28 Nov 2012, 10:57:38 UTC - in response to Message 1310978.  

The statement by the incoming coalition government quoted by me was meant to refer to the Budget deficit



Also, UK troops in Afghanistan might take offense at your statement that the last election occurred during peacetime.

Now you're just being picky. I specifically referred to WWII. Of course we have had other conflicts since then.
    1950 Korea
    1956 Suez
    1964 Aden
    1965 Borneo
    1982 Falklands
    1991 Gulf War 1
    1999 Kosovo
    2000 Sierra Leone
    2001 Afghanistan
    2003 Gulf War 2


Did we get out of bed the wrong side today? I'm sending Sirius some liver pills for Christmas, sounds like I'd better send you some as well.



Better take some yourself as you got one wrong & left out an "H".
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Message 1310991 - Posted: 28 Nov 2012, 11:34:08 UTC

1968 was the only year in the 20th Century that a British soldier didn't die in Action.
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Message 1311026 - Posted: 28 Nov 2012, 13:52:42 UTC - in response to Message 1310978.  

The statement by the incoming coalition government quoted by me was meant to refer to the Budget deficit

That is called "moving the goalposts". I commented on what you said, not what now say you meant.

Now you're just being picky. I specifically referred to WWII.

You didn't simply say "since WWII" you specifically referred to peacetime. If you only meant to say since WWII, then you should have left it at that.

Did we get out of bed the wrong side today? I'm sending Sirius some liver pills for Christmas, sounds like I'd better send you some as well.

Meh.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1316361 - Posted: 17 Dec 2012, 8:48:01 UTC

And now the IMF has a go at Argentina.

Argentina faces IMF penalties over failure to meet inflation deadline
Sanctions such as exclusion from G20 could be imposed as country's inflation rate appears at odds with independent assessments

Official inflation statistics in Argentina show prices rising at around 10% but independent assessments have prices rising at 25% and more. The problem that inflation is running higher than official figures is acknowledged by Gabriela Cerruti, an MP from the governing party.
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Message 1324331 - Posted: 3 Jan 2013, 20:08:22 UTC - in response to Message 1324178.  

Neither will the gimp...

Edit: oops, the Gimp is a useful program, I meant the wimp!
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Message 1325864 - Posted: 8 Jan 2013, 21:21:02 UTC

Argentina’s Kirchner charters jet to avoid debt seizure

Despite a bitter war of words with London over the Falkland Islands, Kirchner's government is paying British air charter firm Chapman Freeborn $880,000 for the trip to Cuba, the United Arab Emirates, Indonesia and Vietnam.
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Message 1325907 - Posted: 9 Jan 2013, 0:07:32 UTC - in response to Message 1325864.  

Argentina’s Kirchner charters jet to avoid debt seizure

Despite a bitter war of words with London over the Falkland Islands, Kirchner's government is paying British air charter firm Chapman Freeborn $880,000 for the trip to Cuba, the United Arab Emirates, Indonesia and Vietnam.


Just goes to prove that no matter where one is, the ordinary citizen is either a piece of cannon fodder or a cash-cow.
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Message 1330464 - Posted: 23 Jan 2013, 19:44:08 UTC
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Message 1345789 - Posted: 12 Mar 2013, 12:13:40 UTC - in response to Message 1310565.  

In the end the U.S. MUST maintain good relations with Argentina. There is too much coffee at stake!! The british might opt for tea instead, but that is simply not an option here.

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I have been known to drink a good black currant tea in the morning not all of us drink coffee.
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