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Message 1308029 - Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 6:29:22 UTC

About a week ago I started to get 5 tasks (noted as lost tasks being resent). I then get an error message indicating missing coprocessor.

At first I get a message: app version needs open CL but GPU doesn't support it.


before the error message I get: App version uses noexisten ATI GPU.

I have been running this application using 3-4 of my processors 24 hours a day since I got this machine a few years ago. I continue to depleat my available list of tasks (now down from 5 screens of tasks to about 1, and will soon have nothing to process. I do not know of any changes I have made that might cause this to happen.

I am on a Windows 7 desktop and enjoy this function, but don't know how I can continue if I only get these 5 missing tasks and nothing else anymore.

Can anyone help me with this please. Only though I have now is to delete BOINC totally from my machine and re-install. I did reinstall this morning, but did not delete and am still getting the same issue. Is there a possible download of a GPU that would let me move forward if I install?

Any help is appreciated.

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Message 1308031 - Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 7:18:21 UTC

On SETI web has my PC (ID: 6258002) 23 active units but in reality my BOINC manager doesn't see any.
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Message 1308033 - Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 7:26:21 UTC - in response to Message 1308029.  

Ian,

Ran into the same thing a while back...installed this and it cleared it up for me. However, I am running nVidia so don't know if that makes a difference for your situation. At least it is worth a try...maybe the ones who know could followup on this...

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http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_7.0.36_windows_x86_64.exe

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Message 1308068 - Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 11:13:28 UTC - in response to Message 1308029.  

About a week ago I started to get 5 tasks (noted as lost tasks being resent). I then get an error message indicating missing coprocessor.

At first I get a message: app version needs open CL but GPU doesn't support it.


before the error message I get: App version uses noexisten ATI GPU.

I have been running this application using 3-4 of my processors 24 hours a day since I got this machine a few years ago. I continue to depleat my available list of tasks (now down from 5 screens of tasks to about 1, and will soon have nothing to process. I do not know of any changes I have made that might cause this to happen.

I am on a Windows 7 desktop and enjoy this function, but don't know how I can continue if I only get these 5 missing tasks and nothing else anymore.

Can anyone help me with this please. Only though I have now is to delete BOINC totally from my machine and re-install. I did reinstall this morning, but did not delete and am still getting the same issue. Is there a possible download of a GPU that would let me move forward if I install?

Any help is appreciated.

Ian Fraigun (IJFraigun@netscape.net)

AMD has deprecated OpenCL support for XP from Cat 12.2 drivers, so the last Catalyst drivers you can use is Cat 12.1

ATI Driver Version Cheat Sheet

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Message 1308129 - Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 16:06:40 UTC - in response to Message 1308033.  

Thanks for the information. I will note if needed in the future.

After a week somehow I finally got those five tasks to load. They are AstroPulse and of course will run a good long time. Now still getting no tasks available for SETI, but that often happens and I know over the next few days all of a sudden 30-70 new SETI tasks will download to my computer.

Appreciate the information and help. Guess the maintenance they did the past few days cleaned this one up for me.

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Message 1308135 - Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 16:34:05 UTC
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Keep in mind, Ian, that at present no new work is being split. Only work going out are reissues and possibly some ghosted tasks. We don't know how long it will be before the database is cleared out enough that they shall consider starting to split new work.
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Message 1308149 - Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 17:19:09 UTC - in response to Message 1308135.  

Keep in mind, Ian, that at present no new work is being split. Only work going out are reissues and possibly some ghosted tasks. We don't know how long it will be before the database is cleared out enough that they shall consider starting to split new work.

Probably 6 days at the earliest. Depending on their holiday schedule.
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Message 1308156 - Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 21:40:51 UTC - in response to Message 1308149.  

Keep in mind, Ian, that at present no new work is being split. Only work going out are reissues and possibly some ghosted tasks. We don't know how long it will be before the database is cleared out enough that they shall consider starting to split new work.

Probably 6 days at the earliest. Depending on their holiday schedule.

Maybe sooner. Bandwidth seems to be really high right after coming back.
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Message 1308167 - Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 22:28:03 UTC - in response to Message 1308068.  

About a week ago I started to get 5 tasks (noted as lost tasks being resent). I then get an error message indicating missing coprocessor.

At first I get a message: app version needs open CL but GPU doesn't support it.


before the error message I get: App version uses noexisten ATI GPU.

I have been running this application using 3-4 of my processors 24 hours a day since I got this machine a few years ago. I continue to depleat my available list of tasks (now down from 5 screens of tasks to about 1, and will soon have nothing to process. I do not know of any changes I have made that might cause this to happen.

I am on a Windows 7 desktop and enjoy this function, but don't know how I can continue if I only get these 5 missing tasks and nothing else anymore.

Can anyone help me with this please. Only though I have now is to delete BOINC totally from my machine and re-install. I did reinstall this morning, but did not delete and am still getting the same issue. Is there a possible download of a GPU that would let me move forward if I install?

Any help is appreciated.

Ian Fraigun (IJFraigun@netscape.net)

AMD has deprecated OpenCL support for XP from Cat 12.2 drivers, so the last Catalyst drivers you can use is Cat 12.1

ATI Driver Version Cheat Sheet

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I am running catalyst 12.11 and had to download the sreaming sdk from amd to get the opencl based clients to work. amd is distenceing itself from opencl now that nvidia supports it I guess that we need to let amd know we use this so they will put it back and maybe we can get them to help in the writing of client as well if enough pressure can be brought to bare.

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Message 1308170 - Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 22:36:57 UTC - in response to Message 1308167.  

I am running catalyst 12.11 and had to download the sreaming sdk from amd to get the opencl based clients to work. amd is distenceing itself from opencl now that nvidia supports it I guess that we need to let amd know we use this so they will put it back and maybe we can get them to help in the writing of client as well if enough pressure can be brought to bare.

AMD has laid off 15% of their workforce, i doubt you'd be able to convince them to start supporting a 10 year old OS again, they are still supporting OpenCL on Win Vista, 7 and 8,

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Message 1308246 - Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 5:25:04 UTC - in response to Message 1308170.  

I am running catalyst 12.11 and had to download the sreaming sdk from amd to get the opencl based clients to work. amd is distenceing itself from opencl now that nvidia supports it I guess that we need to let amd know we use this so they will put it back and maybe we can get them to help in the writing of client as well if enough pressure can be brought to bare.

AMD has laid off 15% of their workforce, i doubt you'd be able to convince them to start supporting a 10 year old OS again, they are still supporting OpenCL on Win Vista, 7 and 8,

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Also in April 2013(if I'm remembering correctly) Microsoft stops all support for XP even for critical bugs. No more patches of any type for Win XP. So AMD stopping XP active support is not so strange.
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Message 1308253 - Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 6:08:40 UTC - in response to Message 1308246.  
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I am running catalyst 12.11 and had to download the sreaming sdk from amd to get the opencl based clients to work. amd is distenceing itself from opencl now that nvidia supports it I guess that we need to let amd know we use this so they will put it back and maybe we can get them to help in the writing of client as well if enough pressure can be brought to bare.

AMD has laid off 15% of their workforce, i doubt you'd be able to convince them to start supporting a 10 year old OS again, they are still supporting OpenCL on Win Vista, 7 and 8,

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Also in April 2013(if I'm remembering correctly) Microsoft stops all support for XP even for critical bugs. No more patches of any type for Win XP. So AMD stopping XP active support is not so strange.

Extended support ends April 2014. They have been cutting support for it for some time now. Recently they removed the ability to obtain a WHQL logo for drivers for XP, also Vista. if anyone cared.

Also AMD isn't moving away from OpenCL. They simply made the choice to stop developing it for XP.
OpenCL support is supported in newer OS's. IIRC 12.2 & 12.3 can be used but you have to install 12.1 first.
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Message 1308258 - Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 6:40:40 UTC - in response to Message 1308167.  

amd is distenceing itself from opencl now that nvidia supports it

LOL, those conspiracy theorists. What do they come up with next? :-D

If that were true, you'd never had OpenCL support on any AMD cards, as Nvidia was the first with functioning OpenCL support for all their GPUs. See the Khronos Group time line for products supporting OpenCL.
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Message 1308331 - Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 12:44:47 UTC - in response to Message 1308253.  

I am running catalyst 12.11 and had to download the sreaming sdk from amd to get the opencl based clients to work. amd is distenceing itself from opencl now that nvidia supports it I guess that we need to let amd know we use this so they will put it back and maybe we can get them to help in the writing of client as well if enough pressure can be brought to bare.

AMD has laid off 15% of their workforce, i doubt you'd be able to convince them to start supporting a 10 year old OS again, they are still supporting OpenCL on Win Vista, 7 and 8,

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Also in April 2013(if I'm remembering correctly) Microsoft stops all support for XP even for critical bugs. No more patches of any type for Win XP. So AMD stopping XP active support is not so strange.

Extended support ends April 2014. They have been cutting support for it for some time now. Recently they removed the ability to obtain a WHQL logo for drivers for XP, also Vista. if anyone cared.

Also AMD isn't moving away from OpenCL. They simply made the choice to stop developing it for XP.
OpenCL support is supported in newer OS's. IIRC 12.2 & 12.3 can be used but you have to install 12.1 first.

OK so I wanted XP gone sooner than it is really going to be gone by one year. I knew it was looking wrong when I posted that post but was too tired last night to look it up. I knew it was in April but had the year wrong. Thanks you for politely correcting me.
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