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Message 1308817 - Posted: 22 Nov 2012, 16:15:44 UTC - in response to Message 1308650.  
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Windows 3.x was only 6 floppies or so. I cannot imagine installing win95 from floppy wow. That had to be fun, and slow.

I beleive what was actually delivered was the CD, and we had to create the floppies from the CD. The combination of the two took most of a morning of torture.


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Message 1308856 - Posted: 22 Nov 2012, 18:03:05 UTC - in response to Message 1308817.  
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Windows 3.x was only 6 floppies or so. I cannot imagine installing win95 from floppy wow. That had to be fun, and slow.

I beleive what was actually delivered was the CD, and we had to create the floppies from the CD. The combination of the two took most of a morning of torture.

Yeah that seems to be what I remember too, dimly, but...

Of course MS Dos wasn't My 1st computer, but then I had not only the worlds first retail 8bit color computer that was sold in stores as a working computer, mine was also one of the 1st to ever be modded, I added a real keyboard and increased the ram on My Atari 400 to 48K, the 6502 Nmos cpu could only see 64K of ram or rom and the OS was all of 10K! I think only a Vic-20 could beat that on the OS size. The Atari 400/800 is also renowned for also being the 1st computer with a chipset, much like modern PCs do today, eat Yer heart out guys, in 1982 We owned the best out there! ;p
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Message 1309090 - Posted: 23 Nov 2012, 3:35:55 UTC
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My first graphical OS was G.E.O.S. on a commodore 64. You needed to expand the RAM to 128K to use Geos. it was on 2 or 3 5.5" floppies. Most of the time I avoided booting it, using the command line instead (commodore basic).




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Message 1309092 - Posted: 23 Nov 2012, 3:43:34 UTC - in response to Message 1308856.  

Windows 3.x was only 6 floppies or so. I cannot imagine installing win95 from floppy wow. That had to be fun, and slow.

I beleive what was actually delivered was the CD, and we had to create the floppies from the CD. The combination of the two took most of a morning of torture.

Yeah that seems to be what I remember too, dimly, but...

Of course MS Dos wasn't My 1st computer, but then I had not only the worlds first retail 8bit color computer that was sold in stores as a working computer, mine was also one of the 1st to ever be modded, I added a real keyboard and increased the ram on My Atari 400 to 48K, the 6502 Nmos cpu could only see 64K of ram or rom and the OS was all of 10K! I think only a Vic-20 could beat that on the OS size. The Atari 400/800 is also renowned for also being the 1st computer with a chipset, much like modern PCs do today, eat Yer heart out guys, in 1982 We owned the best out there! ;p

My first computer was a HeathKit H-100. It came as a box full of empty circuit boards and components.


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Message 1309093 - Posted: 23 Nov 2012, 3:55:20 UTC

Floppies? Ya all came late to the party. Audio tape in a cassette deck.

But the very first computer I used, but didn't own, had front panel switches and a core, yes magnetic core, expansion from 4k to 8k, a disk pack about the same capacity as a 8" floppy, a card reader and a line printer in addition to a terminal. The O/S was called "monitor." It was built by IBM.

Uh oh, I'm dating myself.

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Message 1309095 - Posted: 23 Nov 2012, 4:26:57 UTC

My first meeting with a personal computer was a UK101, essentially a Ohio Superboard.

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Message 1309119 - Posted: 23 Nov 2012, 6:07:00 UTC - in response to Message 1309093.  
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Floppies? Ya all came late to the party. Audio tape in a cassette deck.

But the very first computer I used, but didn't own, had front panel switches and a core, yes magnetic core, expansion from 4k to 8k, a disk pack about the same capacity as a 8" floppy, a card reader and a line printer in addition to a terminal. The O/S was called "monitor." It was built by IBM.

Uh oh, I'm dating myself.

The Atari 400 I had in 1980 came with a 410 Cassette Tape drive, anyone remember the CLOAD command? But then I didn't have an 810 5.25"(90K per side) SSSD floppy disk drive yet or a Rana 1000 or another fdd that was in black that was used for the Atari and the C64 that has a door to protect against dust.

400 w/aftermarket keyboard like I used.

A 410 cassette drive, an 810 5.25" fdd and an 850 interface(DB9 serial and DB25 centronics)...
All these had their own psu bricks and they all had to be powered up before the computer was, then Atari DOS could load from the 810 drive on the 13pin SIO port(daisy chained).
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Message 1310665 - Posted: 27 Nov 2012, 3:17:45 UTC - in response to Message 1309119.  

Floppies? Ya all came late to the party. Audio tape in a cassette deck.

But the very first computer I used, but didn't own, had front panel switches and a core, yes magnetic core, expansion from 4k to 8k, a disk pack about the same capacity as a 8" floppy, a card reader and a line printer in addition to a terminal. The O/S was called "monitor." It was built by IBM.

Uh oh, I'm dating myself.

The Atari 400 I had in 1980 came with a 410 Cassette Tape drive, anyone remember the CLOAD command? But then I didn't have an 810 5.25"(90K per side) SSSD floppy disk drive yet or a Rana 1000 or another fdd that was in black that was used for the Atari and the C64 that has a door to protect against dust.

400 w/aftermarket keyboard like I used.

A 410 cassette drive, an 810 5.25" fdd and an 850 interface(DB9 serial and DB25 centronics)...
All these had their own psu bricks and they all had to be powered up before the computer was, then Atari DOS could load from the 810 drive on the 13pin SIO port(daisy chained).

I remember fussing with a cassette tape player to get it to load a program. I was left to load the current state of the program while everyone else went off to get pizza.


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Message 1310678 - Posted: 27 Nov 2012, 4:02:27 UTC - in response to Message 1310665.  
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Floppies? Ya all came late to the party. Audio tape in a cassette deck.

But the very first computer I used, but didn't own, had front panel switches and a core, yes magnetic core, expansion from 4k to 8k, a disk pack about the same capacity as a 8" floppy, a card reader and a line printer in addition to a terminal. The O/S was called "monitor." It was built by IBM.

Uh oh, I'm dating myself.

The Atari 400 I had in 1980 came with a 410 Cassette Tape drive, anyone remember the CLOAD command? But then I didn't have an 810 5.25"(90K per side) SSSD floppy disk drive yet or a Rana 1000 or another fdd that was in black that was used for the Atari and the C64 that has a door to protect against dust.

400 w/aftermarket keyboard like I used.

A 410 cassette drive, an 810 5.25" fdd and an 850 interface(DB9 serial and DB25 centronics)...
All these had their own psu bricks and they all had to be powered up before the computer was, then Atari DOS could load from the 810 drive on the 13pin SIO port(daisy chained).

I remember fussing with a cassette tape player to get it to load a program. I was left to load the current state of the program while everyone else went off to get pizza.

In basic I think I only had to type in CLOAD and press play, otherwise I'd power the 400 on and press play on the 410 at the same time and the 410 would load the program into memory(this was 32 years back, so it's been a while).
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Message 1310694 - Posted: 27 Nov 2012, 4:46:38 UTC
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One of my earliest pieces of "Overclocking" hardware... :)




(I haven't needed to use it for a few years now...)

Some of you should know what it is.

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Message 1310698 - Posted: 27 Nov 2012, 5:08:38 UTC - in response to Message 1310694.  

It was for making flippy disks out of single sided disks, Mine was black.
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Message 1310701 - Posted: 27 Nov 2012, 5:43:12 UTC - in response to Message 1310698.  



Victor wins!! YAY!!!

Yes, it's a floppy punch! ...

I still have plenty of diskettes around, but I don't think I have any Single-sided floppies anywhere.

ok, here's another old piece of hardware:



It's a six CD cartridge for a Panasonic 1x speed reader. I have the reader in the closet, but it's just too bulky to drag out right now... The reader connects to a scsi i/f card (around here somewhere, in one of the storage bins...). Though, it just occurred to me I might have thrown out the scsi cable when I was downsizing, getting ready to move to the apartment....dang! Well, that shouldn't be too hard to replace.

I had it working on my XP system a few years ago. Still have the s/w driver for it.



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Message 1310704 - Posted: 27 Nov 2012, 6:05:15 UTC

I don't think the OP started this as a game thread!
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Message 1310705 - Posted: 27 Nov 2012, 6:08:03 UTC

Nostalgia ain't wot it used to be.....
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Message 1311270 - Posted: 29 Nov 2012, 6:07:02 UTC - in response to Message 1310704.  

I don't think the OP started this as a game thread!



Sorry Uli,

I wasn't attempting to start a game thread...just Saluting Victor for recognizing the old "hardware."

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Message 1311281 - Posted: 29 Nov 2012, 6:55:59 UTC - in response to Message 1311270.  

We are all good LT, just a gentle reminder.
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Message 1311612 - Posted: 6 Dec 2012, 3:19:35 UTC - in response to Message 1310705.  
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Nostalgia ain't wot it used to be.....

Lol!

And don't worry Uli, this is a thread about technology of the past, if people want to guess what stuff is that's ok by me. :-)
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Message 1312305 - Posted: 7 Dec 2012, 21:46:10 UTC - in response to Message 1310678.  

Floppies? Ya all came late to the party. Audio tape in a cassette deck.

But the very first computer I used, but didn't own, had front panel switches and a core, yes magnetic core, expansion from 4k to 8k, a disk pack about the same capacity as a 8" floppy, a card reader and a line printer in addition to a terminal. The O/S was called "monitor." It was built by IBM.

Uh oh, I'm dating myself.

The Atari 400 I had in 1980 came with a 410 Cassette Tape drive, anyone remember the CLOAD command? But then I didn't have an 810 5.25"(90K per side) SSSD floppy disk drive yet or a Rana 1000 or another fdd that was in black that was used for the Atari and the C64 that has a door to protect against dust.

400 w/aftermarket keyboard like I used.

A 410 cassette drive, an 810 5.25" fdd and an 850 interface(DB9 serial and DB25 centronics)...
All these had their own psu bricks and they all had to be powered up before the computer was, then Atari DOS could load from the 810 drive on the 13pin SIO port(daisy chained).

I remember fussing with a cassette tape player to get it to load a program. I was left to load the current state of the program while everyone else went off to get pizza.

In basic I think I only had to type in CLOAD and press play, otherwise I'd power the 400 on and press play on the 410 at the same time and the 410 would load the program into memory(this was 32 years back, so it's been a while).

The blasted thing was finicky. If the volume was wrong on the player or the tape fluttered slightly, it would not read correctly and you would have to start over. Getting a 16KB program to load took around a half an hour...


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Message 1312307 - Posted: 7 Dec 2012, 21:57:13 UTC - in response to Message 1312305.  
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Floppies? Ya all came late to the party. Audio tape in a cassette deck.

But the very first computer I used, but didn't own, had front panel switches and a core, yes magnetic core, expansion from 4k to 8k, a disk pack about the same capacity as a 8" floppy, a card reader and a line printer in addition to a terminal. The O/S was called "monitor." It was built by IBM.

Uh oh, I'm dating myself.

The Atari 400 I had in 1980 came with a 410 Cassette Tape drive, anyone remember the CLOAD command? But then I didn't have an 810 5.25"(90K per side) SSSD floppy disk drive yet or a Rana 1000 or another fdd(an Indus GT, I have 1) that was in black that was used for the Atari and the C64 that has a door to protect against dust.

400 w/aftermarket keyboard like I used.

A 410 cassette drive, an 810 5.25" fdd and an 850 interface(DB9 serial and DB25 centronics)...
All these had their own psu bricks and they all had to be powered up before the computer was, then Atari DOS could load from the 810 drive on the 13pin SIO port(daisy chained).

I remember fussing with a cassette tape player to get it to load a program. I was left to load the current state of the program while everyone else went off to get pizza.

In basic I think I only had to type in CLOAD and press play, otherwise I'd power the 400 on and press play on the 410 at the same time and the 410 would load the program into memory(this was 32 years back, so it's been a while).

The blasted thing was finicky. If the volume was wrong on the player or the tape fluttered slightly, it would not read correctly and you would have to start over. Getting a 16KB program to load took around a half an hour...

From what I remember a 410 didn't have a volume knob, each part of the Atari SIO daisy chain was it's own computer, the 410 could only be at the end of such a chain.
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Message 1312389 - Posted: 8 Dec 2012, 4:27:08 UTC - in response to Message 1312307.  

Floppies? Ya all came late to the party. Audio tape in a cassette deck.

But the very first computer I used, but didn't own, had front panel switches and a core, yes magnetic core, expansion from 4k to 8k, a disk pack about the same capacity as a 8" floppy, a card reader and a line printer in addition to a terminal. The O/S was called "monitor." It was built by IBM.

Uh oh, I'm dating myself.

The Atari 400 I had in 1980 came with a 410 Cassette Tape drive, anyone remember the CLOAD command? But then I didn't have an 810 5.25"(90K per side) SSSD floppy disk drive yet or a Rana 1000 or another fdd(an Indus GT, I have 1) that was in black that was used for the Atari and the C64 that has a door to protect against dust.

400 w/aftermarket keyboard like I used.

A 410 cassette drive, an 810 5.25" fdd and an 850 interface(DB9 serial and DB25 centronics)...
All these had their own psu bricks and they all had to be powered up before the computer was, then Atari DOS could load from the 810 drive on the 13pin SIO port(daisy chained).

I remember fussing with a cassette tape player to get it to load a program. I was left to load the current state of the program while everyone else went off to get pizza.

In basic I think I only had to type in CLOAD and press play, otherwise I'd power the 400 on and press play on the 410 at the same time and the 410 would load the program into memory(this was 32 years back, so it's been a while).

The blasted thing was finicky. If the volume was wrong on the player or the tape fluttered slightly, it would not read correctly and you would have to start over. Getting a 16KB program to load took around a half an hour...

From what I remember a 410 didn't have a volume knob, each part of the Atari SIO daisy chain was it's own computer, the 410 could only be at the end of such a chain.

I was working with a TRS80 Model 1, and it DID have a volume knob as it was a pretty standard Radio Shack cassette recorder that was being used for data storage. The correct position was about 2/3 volume if I recall correctly.


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