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Message 1309136 - Posted: 23 Nov 2012, 7:23:21 UTC

EU budget deal unlikely, says Ms Merkel

One thing is stilll bothering me about all this: - "She has previously said that another summit may be necessary early next year if no deal can be reached now."

Just what is going to change that dramatically within the next 8 weeks?

Small storm in a large teacup?

"so the numbers don't really add up." & they never will, not until the auditors can sign off the accounts, which after 18 years of being unable to do so, will make even a leprechaun stand tall & ask questions!

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Message 1309558 - Posted: 24 Nov 2012, 1:41:37 UTC

Nice lunch, no wonder they want to increase the budget

Jeebers, what's got into the Mail? A very interesting report, so are they finally waking up & realising that the country has had enough of the muppets in charge & the "highly educated" trolls in the media?

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"As part of Mr Hollande’s sycophancy towards the Germans, he has loudly blamed Mr Cameron for holding up the EU budget process through his demand for more austerity. This is stunningly hypocritical, because it is the Germans — not the British — who are increasingly France’s main critics."

One issue remains though & that's with our "leaders" - Why aren't they worried?

"It is no wonder the Germans are deeply worried. They, with their financial expertise and freedom from socialist doctrine, know that Mr Hollande’s policies can have only one outcome.

And it would be an outcome that could leave not just France, but much of Europe, in economic ruins."
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Message 1309752 - Posted: 24 Nov 2012, 13:11:09 UTC - in response to Message 1309654.  

He will know, however, that next year an EU budget deal will have to be done.



Really? & just why is that?
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Message 1309880 - Posted: 24 Nov 2012, 18:42:48 UTC - in response to Message 1309798.  

If an agreement is not reached by the end of 2013, the 2013 budget ceilings will have to be rolled over into 2014, together with a 2% inflation adjustment. That gives uncertainty over long-term EU projects. That is not good for anyone.


Are you that blind? Of course the uncertainty is good. It will force those unelected muppets in Brussels to hold tigher rein over their budgets rather than wasting it on £120 bottles of red wine!

They do that often enough & the budget will in fact be reduced - less wastage!
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Message 1309964 - Posted: 24 Nov 2012, 23:04:34 UTC

One of the major reasons why the EU will never be united & integrated.....

Hollande Sauce (© Chris S) proven to be too weak

Tories cheer Cameron but demand referendum

"Mr Pritchard wants the Coalition to publish a Referendum Bill to set the terms on a public vote. “This should be an in/out referendum – anything short of that simply won’t deliver,” he writes.

The MP said that only such an unambiguous question would “assuage the British people”.

However, there is little belief that the budget will be resolved at that meeting either."

& that is the bait that could end up trapping him! Even though he's showing his mettle & getting many of his own party behind him, the fact is that many have finally woken up to the cashcow that the EU itself is & with him already offering the referendum mandate (which he failed once to uphold), a referendum before 2015 will become neccessary if he wishes to remain in power!
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Message 1310115 - Posted: 25 Nov 2012, 10:21:18 UTC - in response to Message 1310103.  

Is that the best you could come up with? So there's no wastage then?

OK, let's increase the budget as they're all efficient & prudent!
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Message 1310120 - Posted: 25 Nov 2012, 10:35:59 UTC

A Warning for Britain Stay out of the Euro

"21 November 2012 9:13pm One tired man alone in the dark: or what becomes of a surrendered StateHere is my Thursday Eurowatch column in the Irish Daily Mail. I've put it here for the eurozone trainspotters amongst you. For the rest, by which I mean all you lucky British who are not caught in the nightmare of the euro, perhaps you can read it and be grateful you and your currency remain independent. And just to remind, Michael Noonan is the Irish finance minister -- watch and see what can happen to the minister of a once-independent country when it joins a currency union."

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Message 1310415 - Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 7:16:23 UTC

It looks like my estimate of 2020 is looking good!

Excellent Ossie, is that to pay for the EU Budget increase then?

Tell me this isn't true!

"Former PM Tony B-liar has now joined the fight with sceptics"

What's the matter cronie? They won't have you as EU president then?
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Message 1310560 - Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 19:16:49 UTC - in response to Message 1310415.  
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Tell me this isn't true!

"Former PM Tony B-liar has now joined the fight with sceptics"

What's the matter cronie? They won't have you as EU president then?

Exactly what I thought too. Something had changed and either "Coronation Street
son in-law" had finally woken up to the shysters of Brussels scam or that he
knows he has no chance of becoming President. The latter obviously for even he
has now cottoned on to the fact that to be president of Europe you first have to
be a "Commi"!!!..When Adolf departed he left a void, these Brussels lot are
rapidly filling it.
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Message 1310576 - Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 20:18:14 UTC

One thing rather puzzles me (well actually more than one thing, but...)

Today we see two groups of people rushing in opposite directions.

The first group are those who live in countries that may be described as "federal" in nature, that is the country they live in is actually made up of several different smaller countries. These folks want to break away from the larger country (Scotland/UK & Catalonia/Spain are two examples that have been in the news today). They are wanting this in the belief that as a smaller country they will be in a "better" situation.

The second group are those, often in the same countries, who want to create "mega states" by forging ever tighter unions between "small" countries. In the belief that as a large country they will be in a "better" situation.

Now both can't be right, or can they...
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Message 1310624 - Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 23:45:48 UTC - in response to Message 1310566.  

Why Not? After all it is history, or do you wish to alter history for your own ends?

Massive inflation & unemployment, together with the reparation payments made Germany a hostile breeding ground......

.... & the difference in the EU today is?
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Message 1310772 - Posted: 27 Nov 2012, 18:52:26 UTC - in response to Message 1310624.  

Why Not? After all it is history, or do you wish to alter history for your own ends?

Massive inflation & unemployment, together with the reparation payments made Germany a hostile breeding ground......

.... & the difference in the EU today is?

....The void left by Adolf, for Brussels is only trying to achieve that which
he failed too.

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Message 1310870 - Posted: 27 Nov 2012, 23:35:39 UTC

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Message 1310986 - Posted: 28 Nov 2012, 11:25:15 UTC

There's a hole in the budget, dear Liza

The Eu's new National Anthem: -

There's a hole in the bucket, dear Liza, dear Liza,
There's a hole in the bucket, dear Liza,
There's a hole.

Then fix it dear Henry, dear Henry, dear Henry,
Then fix it dear Henry, dear Henry, fix it.

With what should I fix it, dear Liza, dear Liza,
With what should I fix it, dear Liza, with what?

With a straw, dear Henry, dear Henry, dear Henry,
With a straw, dear Henry, dear Henry, with a straw.

But the straw is too long, dear Liza, dear Liza,
The straw is too long, dear Liza, too long.

Then cut it dear Henry, dear Henry, dear Henry,
Then cut it dear Henry, dear Henry, cut it!

With what shall I cut it, dear Liza, dear Liza,
With what shall I cut it, dear Liza, with what?

With an ax, dear Henry, dear Henry, dear Henry,
With an ax, dear Henry, an ax.

But the ax is too dull, dear Liza, dear Liza,
The ax is too dull, dear Liza, too dull.

Then, sharpen it, dear Henry, dear Henry, dear Henry,
Then sharpen it dear Henry, dear Henry, sharpen it!

With what should I sharpen it, dear Liza, dear Liza,
With what should I sharpen, dear Liza, with what?

With a stone, dear Henry, dear Henry, dear Henry,
With a stone, dear Henry, dear Henry, a stone.

But the stone is too dry, dear Liza, dear Liza,
The stone is too dry, dear Liza, too dry.

Then wet it, dear Henry, dear Henry, dear Henry,
Then wet it dear Henry, dear Henry, wet it.

With what should I wet it, dear Liza, dear Liza,
With what should I wet it, dear Liza, with what?

With water, dear Henry, dear Henry, dear Henry,
With water, dear Henry, dear Henry, with water.

But how shall I get it?, dear Liza, dear Liza,
But how shall I get it?, dear Liza, with what?

In the bucket, dear Henry, dear Henry, dear Henry,
In the bucket, dear Henry, dear Henry, in the bucket!

But there's a hole in the bucket, dear Liza, dear Liza,
There's a hole in the bucket, dear Liza, a hole.
There's a hole.

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Message 1311703 - Posted: 6 Dec 2012, 11:38:04 UTC

Oh dear, get ready for another 4 years of time wasting, lavish lunches, useless summits & soundbites.......

Merkel's CDU has become intellectually comatose

...in other words, brain dead!
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Message 1311737 - Posted: 6 Dec 2012, 13:25:38 UTC - in response to Message 1311714.  
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For some time now you have thought it amusing to regularly change the country in your avatar. Ho ho, that will get 'em niggled. Not at all, it is seen by all as quite childish really. But your choice of Afghanistan this week does deserve some comment. Perhaps you might like to read through the full list below.

British fatalities

You choose to live in Britain, and have done so for many years, and as such you believe it gives you the right to regularly lampoon and denigrate our politicians. But what it manifestly does not do, is give you the right to insult our armed forces who have died in the service of their country.

I cannot imagine a better thread title to comment upon this, and I strongly suggest that you have a re-think.


You sad Welshman! Get a life! check Afghanistan out & you will find many allied military service personnel crunching various projects.

I stronlg suggest you think before you post & if nothing valid to say on the threads concerned, refrain from posting.
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Message 1311759 - Posted: 6 Dec 2012, 14:04:05 UTC

check Afghanistan out & you will find many allied military service personnel crunching various projects.


Sorry I didn't realise you were in the armed forces serving in Afghanistan.

I strongly suggest you think before you post & if nothing valid to say on the threads concerned, refrain from posting.


Ha Ha well that applies to an awful lot of post in this section!!
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Message 1311766 - Posted: 6 Dec 2012, 14:54:09 UTC - in response to Message 1311714.  

For some time now you have thought it amusing to regularly change the country in your avatar.

When someone deliberately tries to hide who they are it shows that the next words out of their mouth will be a lie or their next actions dishonest and that they know they are going to lie or be dishonest or both.

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Message 1311779 - Posted: 6 Dec 2012, 15:39:00 UTC - in response to Message 1311766.  

For some time now you have thought it amusing to regularly change the country in your avatar.

When someone deliberately tries to hide who they are it shows that the next words out of their mouth will be a lie or their next actions dishonest and that they know they are going to lie or be dishonest or both.


& who might that be? Becoming quite the physchologist are we? How is it that something quite serious like the world's economy tanking & yet get no replies, yet a simple flag showing up besides a person's avatar, rankles so much that it invites displeasure?

Are those that comment on that flag changing really that immature or do they have an ulterior motive in commenting on it?

@ Mr Vine...yet you condescend to post on that thread? How charming of you. No comments from you regarding Europe then?
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Message 1311785 - Posted: 6 Dec 2012, 15:54:00 UTC

@ Mr Vine...yet you condescend to post on that thread? How charming of you. No comments from you regarding Europe then?


I have my daily chuckle at some of the comments in these threads. But I no longer need to join in as my sole purpose here has been accomplished.


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