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Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Jerry: "It was like I was on some sort of Bizarro world." George: "It was the summer of Bizarro. October surprise, baby!" |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
The Prez was in a pool! The prez was in a pool!!! |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
America voted. "The Marble Thinker" by me sometime in Fall 1994 or Winter 1994/1995. Truth - permeates our existence. Falsehood - hinders our persistence. What will you offer up in resistance? Will you swallow it hook, line & sinker? Prime-time, boob-tube marble thinker. What they're trying to sell ya - It's called propaganda. Truth rearranged, money's exchanged. Truth become lies, bought. Never given a 2nd thought. We - are watching from the fence. Watching them fight for the defense. Just takes a few thousand dollars, for them to put a spin on the evidence. Will we swallow it hook, line & sinker? Prime-time boob-tube marble thinker. What they're trying to tell ya - could it be they have an agenda? It's all perception. If there are 2 sides to every story, is there no such thing as deception? Artful depiction - leaving only 1 choice for the jury ... Not enough evidence for conviction. Truth - "It's all relative" isn't what Daddy said. Falsehood - is what we keep getting fed. I will offer up a fight until I'm dead. No, I won't swallow it - hook, line & sinker. I define the fine line between an open mind & a marble thinker. So awkward and out of place - I see you're charmed by my smiling face. Put me on the stand - raise my right hand. Of course, you believe me. "He couldn't be lying, could he?" Listen to it now! |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20265 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
This is doing the rounds at the moment: A MESSAGE FROM THE QUEEN God Save the Queen! :-) Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Angela Send message Joined: 16 Oct 07 Posts: 13130 Credit: 39,854,104 RAC: 31 |
I'm in!!! |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22190 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
I'd certainly go for the banning of "Have a nice day" as a means of saying "Goodbye, and thank you for buying goods/services from us". In all the time I spent in the USofA I only heard it said twice in a manner that communicated that the speaker actually meant it - once from the Deputy Sheriff of a small town, who had treated us to lunch on hearing us speak, and the second the shop keeper in a small town. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19048 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Item 15Except at breakfast when English Breakfast Tea will be served. |
Terror Australis Send message Joined: 14 Feb 04 Posts: 1817 Credit: 262,693,308 RAC: 44 |
Rule 12A: You will also learn to understand why two teams can play a game for 5 days without anyone winning. (When will Ponting remember what a Cricket Bat is mean't for ? :-P ) [edit] The South African pace attack was dismal, Oh for the days when the West Indies had a worthwhile team. (sigh) [/edit] T.A. |
John Neale Send message Joined: 16 Mar 00 Posts: 634 Credit: 7,246,513 RAC: 9 |
The South African pace attack was dismal... Coming right back at ya in Adelaide this week! ;) |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
COINCIDENCE?? OBAMA LOSES IN EVERY STATE REQUIRING PHOTO IDS Really? "OBAMA LOSES IN EVERY STATE REQUIRING PHOTO IDS" Really? http://www.sos.state.co.us/pubs/elections/vote/acceptableFormsOfID.html CO is shown in blue, meaning Obama won CO. From its own Secretary of State webpage: All voters who vote at the polls must provide identification. If you are voting by mail for the first time, you may also need to provide a photocopy of your identification. There is a report of an angry potential CO voter who stormed out when he was asked for a photo ID, refusing to listen to those working at the polling station who tried to tell him what his options were. He was angry it was a law. He looked ready to vote Romney. Logic and proof: frustrating extremists since Euclid. |
Terror Australis Send message Joined: 14 Feb 04 Posts: 1817 Credit: 262,693,308 RAC: 44 |
"We lost, but it's not our fault" I suppose it's easier to to blame your opponents for "appealing to minorities", the "Welfare Vote", "biased media coverage" and "voter fraud" than it is to admit that your candidate and campaign strategists totally screwed up. If the GOP strategists had bothered to look at the demographics of the US rather than sitting round in a self congratulatory "circle j*rk" it would have taken less than five minutes to see that the Hard Right they were trying to appeal to were in fact a "minority group". They began to believe their own propaganda. Surveys prior to the election were showing that this Hard Right line was turning moderate Republicans away. On election day, these people either abstained or voted for Obama. The piece quoted by Sarge also misses the point that the popular vote in a US Presidential election is meaningless, it's the Electoral College that decides the president and the EC vote does not have to concur with the popular vote. Is the author of the piece in question insinuating that there is "voter fraud" in the Electoral College ? If voter fraud was so rife, how come the numbers in the house of Representatives and the Senate didn't change ? According to the theory, the Dems should have won both houses in a landslide. T.A. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
The piece quoted by Sarge also misses the point that the popular vote in a US Presidential election is meaningless, it's the Electoral College that decides the president and the EC vote does not have to concur with the popular vote. Is the author of the piece in question insinuating that there is "voter fraud" in the Electoral College ? The Electoral Votes "mirror" the popular vote. (As I seem to recall, the Senate is for equal representation of the states, while the House of Representatives and therefore, similarly, the Electoral College are based on population.) Thus, if voter fraud were widespread, that would be "mirrored" by the Electoral College. By "mirrored", of course, I mean that if a candidate wins significantly more electoral votes, that is because that candidate carried more of the districts. I cannot recall any time where an electoral vote has differed from who carried a district in my lifetime. If it has happened in my lifetime, I suspect only once, at best twice. If voter fraud was so rife, how come the numbers in the house of Representatives and the Senate didn't change ? According to the theory, the Dems should have won both houses in a landslide. A very good question, I suppose. |
BarryAZ Send message Joined: 1 Apr 01 Posts: 2580 Credit: 16,982,517 RAC: 0 |
It appears you're not familiar with the election process in the US. In the Senate 1/3 of the seats come up for re-election every 2 year. In this cycle there were something like 23 Democrat and 11 Republican held seats up for election. The Democrats (including one independent who will likely caucus with the Democrats) won 24 of those seats. Teapublicans flat out blew two seats (in Missouri and Indiana) with particularly BAD candidates capable of saying some VERY stupid things. Republicans would have won those seats, Teapublicans -- nope. The thing is these two Senate candidates (and a number of other Teapublican super right wing candidates) said stupid enough things to 'mark' less irrational Republican candidates for Senate in at least two and perhaps as many as four other states. Further, Senate contests are statewide, so there are no districting games to be played. Which leads to... In the House, all 435 seats come up for election every 2 years. Democrats actually out polled Republicans -- but by a very small margin. Yet the Teapublican majority in the House was reduced by only a handful of seats. Why, you might as? Glad you did <smile>, in a number of states, as a result of the very successful election for Teapublicans in 2010 in conjunction with the census done every 10 years, the Teapublicans had control of redistricting. This is particularly clear in Pennsylvania. In Pennsylvania, where Democrats outpolled Teapublicans by a small margin in the House seats, the delegation ends up with 13 Republicans and 5 Democrats instead of a 9/9 split. Redistricting there got the Teapublicans 4 seats that more balanced redistricting would have seen go to Democrats. Texas is a good example of this as well. As a counter example, in Arizona, where, due to a state passed referendum a few years ago, a bipartisan panel does the redistricting -- with a non-partisan chair person -- the state delegation (increased by 1 seat due to population growth) went from 5/3 Republican to 5/4 Democrat. As to in-person voter fraud -- frankly, there has been no extensive proof of this. Frankly, there are more likely sources of voter fraud via mail-in ballots (where no photo ID is required or will be required), or registration fraud (several cases pending where Republican operatives apparently took voter registration forms from typically Democratic leaning areas and dumped them in garbage bins or destroyed them). Personally, I would like to see some form of national voter ID program -- I'd also love to see more consistent handling of voting in the country. But that is an issue for another day. As to disgruntled folks looking to secede, perhaps instead they can search out a country which meets their political foibles and migrate there (though if they find a country which meets their foibles, they might get mistreated as migrants....).
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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30640 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Item 15 What?! It isn't tea-publican?!! Wait till the NRA hears about this!! |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
As to in-person voter fraud -- frankly, there has been no extensive proof of this. Frankly, there are more likely sources of voter fraud via mail-in ballots (where no photo ID is required or will be required), or registration fraud (several cases pending where Republican operatives apparently took voter registration forms from typically Democratic leaning areas and dumped them in garbage bins or destroyed them). Though there may be some evidence of intimidation. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Item 15 Now we've got someone saying NASA "didn't build that"! Apollo 17 "On The Shoulders of Giants" - NASA Space Program & Moon. Quit quoting that liberal, Sir Isaac Newton. |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
COINCIDENCE?? OBAMA LOSES IN EVERY STATE REQUIRING PHOTO IDS Florida, NH, and Michigan (states that Obama won) have "non-strict" requirements for photo id, the difference between strict and non-strict photo id requirements is in the counting of provisional ballots, "strict" means the voter has to return within some period to show their valid id, "non-strict" means the state may use some other means to assess the validity of the provisional ballot (e.g. in Florida a comparison with the signature on record may suffice). There were only 4 states that had strict photo id laws in place, and Romney won them all. I find it interesting that the legend says "States that request photo ID", whereas the NCSL terms them "non-strict". Also, according toe the NCSL there are strict non-photo ID states, Arizona, Ohio and Virginia, Obama won two of them. The title "Obama loses every state requiring photo id" while true ... (see my sig) I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
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