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Julie Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 8478 Credit: 1,410,606 RAC: 4,676	Message 1308286 - Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 9:40:07 UTC - in response to Message 1308130. Last modified: 21 Nov 2012, 9:40:28 UTC
	Religions aren't the problem, it's those who control them that are. That's true, Nick. ____________
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bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 1704 Credit: 13,310,965 RAC: 6,372	Message 1308420 - Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 18:15:18 UTC - in response to Message 1308224. Last modified: 21 Nov 2012, 18:15:41 UTC
	Ya, catholics are the BIGGEST problem in the world today. Go for it, Wonderful Guy, tell us who REALLY is the BIGGEST problem in the world today. Is it the Greys? I just did. It's catholics, or more broadly, christians. No, unbending ideologues are the biggest problem. Well, yes. Catholics are anti-gay, anti-reproductive health care, and anti-progress. From a modern day, center of the political spectrum, moderate liberal's perspective, those are right-wing extremist postions. What's worse than that? Guy, "biggest" appears to be an absolute, I thought you were previously critical of liberals being "NARW"s? "anti-gay" and "anti-reproductive health care" would seem to be authoritarian positions, while "anti-progress" seems to be Luddite; authoritarians and Luddites are not necessarily extreme right wing. ____________ I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...
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Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 10331 Credit: 5,103,825 RAC: 6,332	Message 1308440 - Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 18:38:39 UTC - in response to Message 1308286. Last modified: 21 Nov 2012, 18:39:29 UTC
	Religions aren't the problem, it's those who control them that are. That's true, Nick. The agents of Satan control religion. ____________
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Julie Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 8478 Credit: 1,410,606 RAC: 4,676	Message 1308442 - Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 18:45:28 UTC - in response to Message 1308440.
	Religions aren't the problem, it's those who control them that are. That's true, Nick. The agents of Satan control religion. That's a pretty strong statement, Gary. Where do we put God in this scenario? ____________
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Chris S Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Nov 00 Posts: 22809 Credit: 4,526,693 RAC: 5,566	Message 1308453 - Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 19:29:57 UTC
	The agents of Satan control religion. Oh my gosh, the Welsh Chapel has had a revival .....
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Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 10331 Credit: 5,103,825 RAC: 6,332	Message 1308466 - Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 19:45:35 UTC - in response to Message 1308442.
	Religions aren't the problem, it's those who control them that are. That's true, Nick. The agents of Satan control religion. That's a pretty strong statement, Gary. Where do we put God in this scenario? Since good and evil are both inventions of man, I think we can put Satan and God in the same place. I know this doesn't sit well with a lot of people. ____________
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Nick Send message Joined: 11 Oct 11 Posts: 2687 Credit: 1,508,637 RAC: 1,212	Message 1308522 - Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 22:04:47 UTC - in response to Message 1308466.
	Since good and evil are both inventions of man, I think we can put Satan and God in the same place. I know this doesn't sit well with a lot of people. It's strange when one realises that humans have the ability to play both of these rolls. Why do humans look to the heavens to find either God or Satan when in actuality both reside down here on Earth. Their both in us and it's us who choose to be either one of them, that's if we choose to be either one of them at all. ____________ The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes.
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bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 1704 Credit: 13,310,965 RAC: 6,372	Message 1308565 - Posted: 22 Nov 2012, 0:32:10 UTC
	Dr. YEATS: These are topics on which it is desirable that the use of words should be carefully weighed beforehand. That must be my excuse. It is just as much adultery according to that view as the remarriage of divorced persons is. Nor do I see why you should stop at that, for we teach in our schools and universities and print in our books many things which the Catholic Church does not approve of. Once you attempt legislation upon religious grounds you open the way for every kind of intolerance and for every kind of religious persecution. source Shame that modern Irish politicians can't see matters as clearly as W.B. Yeats did in 1925. ____________ I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...
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Julie Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 8478 Credit: 1,410,606 RAC: 4,676	Message 1308665 - Posted: 22 Nov 2012, 7:45:33 UTC - in response to Message 1308522.
	Since good and evil are both inventions of man, I think we can put Satan and God in the same place. I know this doesn't sit well with a lot of people. It's strange when one realises that humans have the ability to play both of these rolls. Why do humans look to the heavens to find either God or Satan when in actuality both reside down here on Earth. Their both in us and it's us who choose to be either one of them, that's if we choose to be either one of them at all. Good and evil resides in ourselves, that's true but I think that's because we're under the influence of higher entities, whether you should call them God or Satan or angels and fallen angels (demons) ____________
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