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Message 1308286 - Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 9:40:07 UTC - in response to Message 1308130.
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Religions aren't the problem, it's those who control them that are.



That's true, Nick.
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Message 1308420 - Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 18:15:18 UTC - in response to Message 1308224.
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Ya, catholics are the BIGGEST problem in the world today.

Go for it, Wonderful Guy, tell us who REALLY is the BIGGEST problem in the world today.
Is it the Greys?



I just did. It's catholics, or more broadly, christians.

No, unbending ideologues are the biggest problem.


Well, yes. Catholics are anti-gay, anti-reproductive health care, and anti-progress. From a modern day, center of the political spectrum, moderate liberal's perspective, those are right-wing extremist postions. What's worse than that?


Guy, "biggest" appears to be an absolute, I thought you were previously critical of liberals being "NARW"s? "anti-gay" and "anti-reproductive health care" would seem to be authoritarian positions, while "anti-progress" seems to be Luddite; authoritarians and Luddites are not necessarily extreme right wing.
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Message 1308440 - Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 18:38:39 UTC - in response to Message 1308286.
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Religions aren't the problem, it's those who control them that are.



That's true, Nick.

The agents of Satan control religion.
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Message 1308442 - Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 18:45:28 UTC - in response to Message 1308440.


Religions aren't the problem, it's those who control them that are.



That's true, Nick.

The agents of Satan control religion.



That's a pretty strong statement, Gary. Where do we put God in this scenario?
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Message 1308453 - Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 19:29:57 UTC

The agents of Satan control religion.

Oh my gosh, the Welsh Chapel has had a revival .....

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Message 1308466 - Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 19:45:35 UTC - in response to Message 1308442.


Religions aren't the problem, it's those who control them that are.



That's true, Nick.

The agents of Satan control religion.



That's a pretty strong statement, Gary. Where do we put God in this scenario?

Since good and evil are both inventions of man, I think we can put Satan and God in the same place. I know this doesn't sit well with a lot of people.

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Message 1308522 - Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 22:04:47 UTC - in response to Message 1308466.

Since good and evil are both inventions of man, I think we can put Satan and God in the same place. I know this doesn't sit well with a lot of people.


It's strange when one realises that humans have the ability to play both of these
rolls. Why do humans look to the heavens to find either God or Satan when in
actuality both reside down here on Earth. Their both in us and it's us who
choose to be either one of them, that's if we choose to be either one of them
at all.

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Message 1308565 - Posted: 22 Nov 2012, 0:32:10 UTC

Dr. YEATS: These are topics on which it is desirable that the use of words should be carefully weighed beforehand. That must be my excuse. It is just as much adultery according to that view as the remarriage of divorced persons is. Nor do I see why you should stop at that, for we teach in our schools and universities and print in our books many things which the Catholic Church does not approve of. Once you attempt legislation upon religious grounds you open the way for every kind of intolerance and for every kind of religious persecution.

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Shame that modern Irish politicians can't see matters as clearly as W.B. Yeats did in 1925.
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Message 1308665 - Posted: 22 Nov 2012, 7:45:33 UTC - in response to Message 1308522.

Since good and evil are both inventions of man, I think we can put Satan and God in the same place. I know this doesn't sit well with a lot of people.


It's strange when one realises that humans have the ability to play both of these
rolls. Why do humans look to the heavens to find either God or Satan when in
actuality both reside down here on Earth. Their both in us and it's us who
choose to be either one of them, that's if we choose to be either one of them
at all.


Good and evil resides in ourselves, that's true but I think that's because we're under the influence of higher entities, whether you should call them God or Satan or angels and fallen angels (demons)
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