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 Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester  Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 10331 Credit: 5,103,825 RAC: 6,332  | |
Very interesting map of the results in the USA though. Both the western and Eastern states went Democrat, whilst nearly all of central USA went Republican. Why is it that the Cities vote one way and the rural communities all vote the other? The coasts are full of high density cities and housing projects and the central USA is full of low density people. The difference being people who live in the cities want to be close enough to their neighbor so as to be in their stuff and the people not in the cities want to be far enough away no one is in their stuff. Simple really. ____________   | |
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central USA is full of low density people Oh dearie me, is that why they vote Republican!!! | |
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It's not intended to. The college, being based on the number of congresspeople (both Representatives and Senators) a state sends to DC is deliberately skewed to favor low population states. As the President is executive leader of a federation of states, it's the states that decide who will hold the office. Oh jeez, that old chestnut? As far as I can tell it dates to one of the Federalist Papers authored by James Madison, where he describes a democracy in terms that would today be used to describe a direct democracy, and a republic in what today would be a representative democracy. I prefer Machiavelli's definition of republic, it's widely accepted around the world, and refers to a form of government where the head of state is not a monarch. Under Madison's definition, the UK is a republic, which is clearly nonsense. [ETA]Further reading[/ETA] Chris, my apologies, when I said the states decide who will hold the office, I didn't mean to suggest that it was the state legislatures or executive, only that the electoral college is defined on the basis of state representation (which, to a large degree, means popular representation). ____________ I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...  | |
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The difference being people who live in the cities want to be close enough to their neighbor so as to be in their stuff and the people not in the cities want to be far enough away no one is in their stuff. Simple really. I beg to differ, it seems to me more likely in small towns people can and will know a lot more about their neighbors stuff, as it's easier to keep track when there are so few. IMHO it's easier to be anonymous when there are a million people around you than when there are 10. ____________ I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... | |
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Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 10331 Credit: 5,103,825 RAC: 6,332 | |
The difference being people who live in the cities want to be close enough to their neighbor so as to be in their stuff and the people not in the cities want to be far enough away no one is in their stuff. Simple really. Bobby, you continue to describe a high density area, a city. Perhaps you haven't ever been to a real rural area. One where the neighbor is a mile away over a ridge line, not through the wall or across the driveway. In high density areas like cities the screaming match carries into the neighbor, it is in the face rubbed into the nose. True in a megalopolis you are less likely to go to the same coffee shop and church but the busybodies still gossip in a megalopolis. ____________ | |
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"So it is pretty close, With Florida to come and some states, like California, haven't counted the postal votes yet. Postal votes are likely to be military personnel and therefore would expect to be Republicans. | |
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So it is pretty close, With Florida to come and some states, like California, haven't counted the postal votes yet. Postal votes are likely to be military personnel and therefore would expect to be Republicans. Absentee voting has changed quite a bit in California. Years ago, yes, it was the elderly and military personnel who tended to vote absentee, and yes these two groups would tend to lean right. Now absentee ballots tend to include large numbers of crazy-busy people, especially those with nasty work commutes. It has been my experience, at least in the SF Bay area, that crazy-busy people lean left. Edit: I'm sorry! I didn't realize Janice had already responded to this issue. | |
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*snicker* no worries Angela.. I also enjoy the advantages of being able to tune everyone out 2 weeks before the election. | |
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my understanding of absentee ballots is that they aren't even counts unless the vote is clearly going to be close. I'd rather early vote than not be counted | |
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Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 10331 Credit: 5,103,825 RAC: 6,332 | |
*snicker* no worries Angela.. I also enjoy the advantages of being able to tune everyone out 2 weeks before the election. Good idea, but the devil is in the details. Come back with a clean GM labeling law, perhaps with a safe harbor provision, and it will pass. ____________ | |
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Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 10331 Credit: 5,103,825 RAC: 6,332 | |
my understanding of absentee ballots is that they aren't even counts unless the vote is clearly going to be close. I'd rather early vote than not be counted Perhaps in Texas, but in Los Angeles County they are counted first. Gives the counters something to do while they wait for the ballots from the precincts to be delivered. The "provisional" ballots are counted last. ____________ | |
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Now this suggests that Obama won from the votes of young, poorly paid, black women? | |
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Now this suggests that Obama won from the votes of young, poorly paid, black women? let me see, he got the young vote, the hispanic vote, the black vote, the womens vote, the educated vote.. Yes there are some very unhappy old white men out there. But then grumpy old men is nothing new. The latest is some of them are inquiring about moving to Canada, which last I checked was decidedly more liberal than the USA.... Maybe healthcare for everyone is okay there but not here? ____________  Janice | |
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But then grumpy old men is nothing new. Certainly not around these forums Janice! I think we've cornered the market :-) Can't blame people for looking at Canada, seems to have more going for it on paper. | |
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James Sotherden Volunteer moderator  Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 6051 Credit: 14,703,946 RAC: 18,358 | |
But then grumpy old men is nothing new. Is there money worth more? I do like LaBatts. ____________  | |
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Nope, just a fraction less. Currently US$ is 1.59974 to the £, C$ is 1.59448 to the £. ____________    | |
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Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 10331 Credit: 5,103,825 RAC: 6,332 | |
Now this suggests that Obama won from the votes of young, poorly paid, black women? Lower-income voters went decisively for Mr Obama. Bribery works. No surprise there. ____________ | |
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Now this suggests that Obama won from the votes of young, poorly paid, black women? you mean like a tax rebate? ____________ Janice | |
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Ex Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester  Send message Joined: 12 Mar 12 Posts: 2883 Credit: 1,161,485 RAC: 869 | |
Now this suggests that Obama won from the votes of young, poorly paid, black women? http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/cellphone.asp ____________ -Dave #2 | |
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