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Message 1302909 - Posted: 7 Nov 2012, 0:01:13 UTC

I stood in line for 2 hours and then

I voted. Took minutes to vote. Mostly 'cause of double checking what my fat fingers would have to do and did. Fingers and Brain Did Not Fail Me.

I got there when the poll opened and the line was very loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong.

Standing in lines for 2 hours ain't my thang.

I thought I would be there 5 minutes. In and Out.

WRONG!

Yes, I Voted For R. Mitt Romney and R. Paul Ryan

Robot Power for next 16 years.

The DEMON...ella FO SHO!


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Message 1302916 - Posted: 7 Nov 2012, 0:12:07 UTC - in response to Message 1302904.  

Really bad stuff Blurf. When you can't let people make their choice and have to force them. I just wonder how much $$$$$ she is being paid to do it. Is it worth it? May she live long enough to see the maggots eating her body.

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Message 1302937 - Posted: 7 Nov 2012, 0:59:01 UTC - in response to Message 1302904.  

I voted.

I drove a friend to his polling place (he's got a broken foot) and there was a woman telling people if you voted one party for one candidate that all your other votes needed to be the same party. We stopped her cold and told her she was absolutely wrong. She didn't agree-we asked for someone in charge who relented but after we left other people posted on his FB page she was doing it again.

We called a local TV station, the local ACLU and the Board of Elections. They had received other reports as well.

WOW. Blurf, Was this woman a county employee or just a citizen??
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Message 1302939 - Posted: 7 Nov 2012, 1:07:07 UTC - in response to Message 1302904.  
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I voted.

I drove a friend to his polling place (he's got a broken foot) and there was a woman telling people if you voted one party for one candidate that all your other votes needed to be the same party. We stopped her cold and told her she was absolutely wrong. She didn't agree-we asked for someone in charge who relented but after we left other people posted on his FB page she was doing it again.

We called a local TV station, the local ACLU and the Board of Elections. They had received other reports as well.

My state solved this problem and the long line issue, we vote by mail, of course I did have to show the mail box my driver's license in order to address the fraudulent voter issue.
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Message 1302942 - Posted: 7 Nov 2012, 1:26:48 UTC - in response to Message 1302939.  

I voted.

I drove a friend to his polling place (he's got a broken foot) and there was a woman telling people if you voted one party for one candidate that all your other votes needed to be the same party. We stopped her cold and told her she was absolutely wrong. She didn't agree-we asked for someone in charge who relented but after we left other people posted on his FB page she was doing it again.

We called a local TV station, the local ACLU and the Board of Elections. They had received other reports as well.

My state solved this problem and the long line issue, we vote by mail, of course I did have to show the mail box my driver's license in order to address the fraudulent voter issue.

:-D

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Message 1302947 - Posted: 7 Nov 2012, 1:43:36 UTC - in response to Message 1302937.  
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I voted.

I drove a friend to his polling place (he's got a broken foot) and there was a woman telling people if you voted one party for one candidate that all your other votes needed to be the same party. We stopped her cold and told her she was absolutely wrong. She didn't agree-we asked for someone in charge who relented but after we left other people posted on his FB page she was doing it again.

We called a local TV station, the local ACLU and the Board of Elections. They had received other reports as well.


WOW. Blurf, Was this woman a county employee or just a citizen??


No idea....Ex-did you see D&C (our local newspaper) yesterday? It said that each party would have observers of each party at the polling sites. I think she was a GOP observer.


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Message 1302954 - Posted: 7 Nov 2012, 2:39:06 UTC

Right now (9:38pm), MSNBC reports Romey at 50%, Obama at 48%.

Electoral Votes:

Romney: 153 Obama: 158


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Message 1302959 - Posted: 7 Nov 2012, 2:56:46 UTC
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Those of you that thought you it bad at the polls today, Check this out

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/06/pennsylvania-voting-machine-switches-vote-obama-romney_n_2083015.html

According to MSNBC-- Obama 162, Romney 153. Romney has projected lost Penna. & Mich. Ohio is still too close to call but Obama is leading.

[edit] By the way the clip is from Penna. [/edit]


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Message 1302973 - Posted: 7 Nov 2012, 4:38:48 UTC

So. Can we please get to working on the issues without huge partisan obstruction???
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Message 1302990 - Posted: 7 Nov 2012, 5:41:01 UTC - in response to Message 1302973.  

So. Can we please get to working on the issues without huge partisan obstruction???


I hate to say it, but I think we will be stuck with stalemate. But.. it DOES beat moving backwards!!

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Message 1303016 - Posted: 7 Nov 2012, 7:23:13 UTC - in response to Message 1302854.  

I voted also. Big deal we lose who ever wins. They both suck bigtime. If anyone thinks the President can do antyhing your wrong. Hes a figure headlike a king or queen. The senate and congress rule the roost. And its not an oversight that I didnt Capitalize the names.

Four more years of nothing gets done because this counrty is so split we hate each other.
Four more years that we have more stinking partisan politics.

I sure as hell hope im wrong. But I doubt it.



I disagree, Jim. Supreme court nominees matter. The president gets to nominate them. Yes the senate still has to approve, but the president gets to send nominees. That is huge. There is a lot to consider when you give a person a powerful job, and let him or her keep it for life!!!

Also, back in high school I vaguely remember something in my history classes about only Congress having the power to declare war. Modern history seems to have bypassed this step. In light of this, I would say that who we elect for president matters quite a bit.
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Message 1303039 - Posted: 7 Nov 2012, 10:06:30 UTC

French newspaper Le Monde

"The Republican electoral strategy did not work. The victory of Barack Obama, first and foremost, belongs to his strategists, who, under the complex electoral system that is in place in the US, managed to garner enough electoral votes without their candidate securing a decisive lead in the popular vote."

So are they suggesting a technical win? I think when it was fairly obvious that the candidates were pretty even, people went for the devil they knew. Either way, not a landslide victory by any means.

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Message 1303043 - Posted: 7 Nov 2012, 10:17:28 UTC

Also, back in high school I vaguely remember something in my history classes about only Congress having the power to declare war. Modern history seems to have bypassed this step. In light of this, I would say that who we elect for president matters quite a bit.

I thought The War Powers Resolution of 1973 sorted that out?

The War Powers Resolution of 1973 is a federal law intended to check the President's power to commit the United States to an armed conflict without the consent of Congress. The resolution was adopted in the form of a United States Congress joint resolution; this provides that the President can send U.S. armed forces into action abroad only by authorization of Congress or in case of "a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces."

Apparently not ....

The War Powers Resolution was disregarded by President Reagan in 1981 by sending military to El Salvador and later the Contras in Nicaragua, by President Clinton in 1999, during the bombing campaign in Kosovo, and by President Obama in 2011, when he did not seek congressional approval for the attack on Libyan forces, arguing that the Resolution did not apply to that action. All incidents have had congressional disapproval, but none have had any successful legal actions taken against the president for violations. All presidents since 1973 have declared their belief that the act is unconstitutional.

So it does matter quite a bit who you elect as President. Particularly one like George W Bush, who when informed that he didn't have a UN mandate to go to war with Iraq, famously said "No-one tells America what to do!". Not even the UN apparently.

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Message 1303046 - Posted: 7 Nov 2012, 10:23:14 UTC - in response to Message 1303039.  

French newspaper Le Monde

"The Republican electoral strategy did not work. The victory of Barack Obama, first and foremost, belongs to his strategists, who, under the complex electoral system that is in place in the US, managed to garner enough electoral votes without their candidate securing a decisive lead in the popular vote."

So are they suggesting a technical win? I think when it was fairly obvious that the candidates were pretty even, people went for the devil they knew. Either way, not a landslide victory by any means.



The actual numbers were a win by the total votes by a small margin, and a substantial electoral college count win. It is the later that elects the president, and something the Republican party is extremely reluctant to discuss replacing.

It is an antiquated system that is badly out of date. But I doubt I will see it replaced in my lifetime.

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Message 1303059 - Posted: 7 Nov 2012, 11:53:50 UTC
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It is an antiquated system that is badly out of date. But I doubt I will see it replaced in my lifetime.

Its the same with our "first past the post system".

Following the 2010 General Election, two thirds of the MPs elected lacked majority support, the highest figure in British political history.

To combat that, last year we had a referendum on the Alternative Vote system proposed by the Electoral Reform Society, but not surprisingly it got defeated. AV Vote The two major parties want to keep it as it is, otherwise they would both lose seats at an election, in favour of the smaller third party. Any voting system needs to take account of popular public opinion, such that the people elected genuinely represent the majority view. I don't think we have that over here at the moment. Regularly our smaller third party come a close second at local elections. You have the House of Representatives, that should give a clue as to what they should be.

It just seems to me at times that the UK and the USA both have electoral systems for the benefit of politicians and not the people, that are supposed to vote them in. They have learnt over the years how to manipulate those systems for their own best advantage. No wonder they don't want them changed. One of the big problems is low turnout on polling day, either through apathy, or the weather, or my vote won't matter. Turnout is usually about 60% in the UK. We have a postal vote system but it is open to abuse. I don't yet know what the USA turnout was.

Very interesting map of the results in the USA though. Both the western and Eastern states went Democrat, whilst nearly all of central USA went Republican. Why is it that the Cities vote one way and the rural communities all vote the other?



And with Florida yet to declare .....

Obama 50.2%, 303 votes
Romney 48.2% 206 votes

So what is the actual accurate feeling from the man in the street to President Obama? Percentages suggest he scraped in by the skin of his teeth, numbers say he won by a landslide. Clearly the Electoral College does not truly represent the wishes of the people.
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Message 1303063 - Posted: 7 Nov 2012, 12:13:29 UTC - in response to Message 1303059.  
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The total votes so far are;

Obama 59,169,798 (51%)
Romney 56,729,542 (48.9%)

Majority 2,440,256 (2.1%)

So it is pretty close, With Florida to come and some states, like California, haven't counted the postal votes yet. Postal votes are likely to be military personnel and therefore would expect to be Republicans.

Why is it that the Cities vote one way and the rural communities all vote the other?

The cities are full of college educated liberals, the rural states are full of gun toting, country music loving Evangelists driving pickups.
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Message 1303070 - Posted: 7 Nov 2012, 12:51:20 UTC

The cities are full of college educated liberals, the rural states are full of gun toting, country music loving Evangelists driving pickups.

OK that would explain it then :-0
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Message 1303094 - Posted: 7 Nov 2012, 13:44:20 UTC - in response to Message 1303059.  

Clearly the Electoral College does not truly represent the wishes of the people.


It's not intended to. The college, being based on the number of congresspeople (both Representatives and Senators) a state sends to DC is deliberately skewed to favor low population states. As the President is executive leader of a federation of states, it's the states that decide who will hold the office.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1303099 - Posted: 7 Nov 2012, 13:48:39 UTC

It's not intended to. The college, being based on the number of congresspeople (both Representatives and Senators) a state sends to DC is deliberately skewed to favor low population states. As the President is executive leader of a federation of states, it's the states that decide who will hold the office.

Well that is one of your problems as I see it. Far too many State Governors think they are God Almighty and run their State like a private fiefdom or dictatorship. Whatever happened to democracy?

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Message 1303129 - Posted: 7 Nov 2012, 14:38:29 UTC - in response to Message 1303099.  

It's not intended to. The college, being based on the number of congresspeople (both Representatives and Senators) a state sends to DC is deliberately skewed to favor low population states. As the President is executive leader of a federation of states, it's the states that decide who will hold the office.

Well that is one of your problems as I see it. Far too many State Governors think they are God Almighty and run their State like a private fiefdom or dictatorship. Whatever happened to democracy?


The USA isn't a democracy, it is a republic. Of course the liberal press wants everyone to think it is a democracy so they tout that.

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