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Message 1303538 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 15:19:27 UTC
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Thanks for those comments both of you!

Good catch there, but not that task anyway.

I just had a dream about watching some tasks dated 1999 -> by means of some tapes having being split and run.

I have been able to locate some tasks dated 2005 on the three discs that are in my computer right now. The rest of it will have to wait for a couple more weeks or months to get back to the surface.

Perhaps I missed something there which I should have been able to take a note of.

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Message 1303626 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 18:11:45 UTC

It seems to me that as the scheduler problem (whatever it is) continues without resolution (or even lacking identification of the specifics at the site from what I've managed to read), it will get worse and worse as an increasing number of clients go asking for work that the scheduler proceeds to chew (badly) on and then fail of nearly each request.

At a certain point, sort of like folks waiting on a gas line in NJ after Sandy, a sense of anger, panic and despair sets in.

For me, in order not to add the undefined and unresolved scheduler problem, I've simply set all my clients for no new work for SETI. I figure *eventually* folks back at Berkeley will acknowledge, then identify, then resolve the scheduler issue and then will grace us with a 'we see it, we found it, we fixed it' Ceasarian missive and then we all can get back to working new SETI work.

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Message 1303665 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 19:04:58 UTC
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Apparently something is not working correctly right now.

The last eight tasks in my task list are still in Boinc Manager, uploaded, ready to report.

But at least two of these tasks now are reported as "Completed and Validated" on the server, meaning that my wingman on these tasks also has finished these tasks by means of uploading and thereafter reporting.

Definitely an error is around somewhere here. I am unable to report these tasks right now. Also I am not getting any new tasks either.

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Message 1303671 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 19:18:08 UTC

In My Humble Opinion:

Stop sending AstroPulse tasks for a while. Let's see how it affects on "Timeout reached" messages.

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Message 1303677 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 19:24:45 UTC

Apparently something is not working correctly right now.

The last eight tasks in my task list are still in Boinc Manager, uploaded, ready to report.

But at least two of these tasks now are reported as "Completed and Validated" on the server, meaning that my wingman on these tasks also has finished these tasks by means of uploading and thereafter reporting.

Definitely an error is around somewhere here. I am unable to report these tasks right now. Also I am not getting any new tasks either.

Suggest you go on No New Tasks and do a manual update to report the remaining completions. Reports on NNT have a higher probability of getting through when Scheduler is not functioning correctly. Allow new tasks after you get a successful report. The two tasks that validated were probably reported succesfully, but the acknowledgement was not sent or was lost in transit due to the project's problems. Without the acknowledgement, BOINC didn't delete it. That should happen when you get a successful work request because Scheduler compares what BOINC says it has to what it thinks BOINC should have.

As to getting work, that's becoming more widespread. Keep trying.
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Message 1303685 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 19:41:46 UTC - in response to Message 1303677.
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Thank you for that advice.

Apparently unsuccessful for now.

Scheduler request failed. "Timeout was reached". "Project servers may be temporarily down".

"Communication deferred 03:37:11" (from Projects tab in Boinc Manager).

This number is slowly going down, I am also able to see.

I will try again at another time. Rather rebooting to another disc and continue.

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Message 1303692 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 19:52:50 UTC

If you are on No New Tasks, you don't have to wait for the countdown to try again. Do another manual update. The problem is at the server end so there's probably no need to reboot or do something at your end. We're all getting timeouts.
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Message 1303713 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 20:36:43 UTC

This problem is enough to give any devoted Seti cruncher an extreme headache.
Not only do I have a big problem reporting tasks but the limits are seriously hindering this computers output.
I feel like a child being punished for being naughty.
I am crunching too many tasks so I had better get some limits imposed on me


I am really just venting at my displeasure but I can see why so many big time crunchers have opted out of Seti and gone to other ways to devote computer time.
I feel that Seti is the most important project of them all.
The reason is obvious. We find other life forms then we give planet Earth peace.

It would unify the entire world to know that we have other life forms here and I believe that information would stop the world from fighting within itself.

Please can the powers within seti please find the problem and fix it.
We are all getting frustrated at least I am for sure.


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Message 1303740 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 22:31:32 UTC

The task limits are not a problem for me . . .
I can`t download enough tasks to get anywhere near the limit :(

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Message 1303744 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 22:42:12 UTC

For the last two days I have been able to keep my machine in tasks using no new tasks and waiting until I have 5 or 6 tasks left to complete before allowing new tasks. It will normally get tasks after 1 or 2 requests and then I repeat the cycle.
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Message 1303752 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 22:57:45 UTC - in response to Message 1303744.

Tried that route as well. It works ( SOMETIMES)

I surely hope this problem gets ironed out.

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Message 1303763 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 23:19:44 UTC - in response to Message 1303752.

Other than the limits imposed, I'm not having any trouble connecting with the servers.

Cheers.
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Message 1303771 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 23:50:37 UTC

Just an idea when SETI server is fixed.
Let it run fixed, Please do not do the Tuesday shutdown.
If memory is correct the fix was in last weekend & working.
Then Tuesday shutdown.
Then trouble again.
I repeat not broken record if the fix is in late before Tuesday.
Please cancel Tuesday shutdown for one week.
Sorry thinking out loud.
Or maybe try a simple fix reboot the servers one by one.
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Message 1303776 - Posted: 9 Nov 2012, 0:16:43 UTC

11/8/2012 4:55:36 PM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
11/8/2012 4:55:36 PM | SETI@home | Reporting 18 completed tasks, requesting new tasks for CPU and ATI
11/8/2012 5:00:48 PM | SETI@home | Scheduler request failed: Timeout was reached
11/8/2012 5:00:51 PM | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
11/8/2012 5:00:52 PM | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
11/8/2012 5:01:53 PM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
11/8/2012 5:01:53 PM | SETI@home | Reporting 18 completed tasks, requesting new tasks for CPU and ATI
11/8/2012 5:07:02 PM | SETI@home | Scheduler request failed: Timeout was reached
11/8/2012 5:07:05 PM | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
11/8/2012 5:07:06 PM | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.

Over 3000 tasks in web account and 0 work in BOINC manager .. not complaining .. just saying
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Message 1303777 - Posted: 9 Nov 2012, 0:20:16 UTC - in response to Message 1303776.

11/8/2012 4:55:36 PM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
11/8/2012 4:55:36 PM | SETI@home | Reporting 18 completed tasks, requesting new tasks for CPU and ATI
11/8/2012 5:00:48 PM | SETI@home | Scheduler request failed: Timeout was reached
11/8/2012 5:00:51 PM | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
11/8/2012 5:00:52 PM | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
11/8/2012 5:01:53 PM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
11/8/2012 5:01:53 PM | SETI@home | Reporting 18 completed tasks, requesting new tasks for CPU and ATI
11/8/2012 5:07:02 PM | SETI@home | Scheduler request failed: Timeout was reached
11/8/2012 5:07:05 PM | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
11/8/2012 5:07:06 PM | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.

Over 3000 tasks in web account and 0 work in BOINC manager .. not complaining .. just saying

As has been suggested many times already:

Set 'No new tasks' - report the 18 you have - allow new tasks - request work without reporting at the same time.

Nothing to lose by trying it.

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Message 1303784 - Posted: 9 Nov 2012, 0:46:21 UTC

Thanks Richard, I am utilizing your suggestion .. the point i was trying to make was the amount of ghost units I have which at the rate I am going will probably end up in alot of "timed out" errors..over 3000 in web account and 0 in BOINC manager

11/8/2012 5:33:05 PM | SETI@home | work fetch suspended by user
11/8/2012 5:33:07 PM | SETI@home | update requested by user
11/8/2012 5:37:33 PM | SETI@home | Scheduler request failed: Timeout was reached
11/8/2012 5:37:36 PM | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
11/8/2012 5:37:37 PM | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
am I missing something
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Message 1303788 - Posted: 9 Nov 2012, 0:56:00 UTC
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As earlier mentioned, my last eight tasks were not shorties at all.

One of these tasks reported a spike count of 30, nothing else, but ran by means of CUDA.

If a task is supposed to be reporting a gaussian score, it should contain both a spike score, a pulse score and possible triplet score as well in addition to the mentioned gaussian score.

Apparently I got the canonical result there even though I wasn't supposed to have reported this task at all.

I guess you never catch the point! Did I ever make it any better than this?

Should I perhaps look up the name of this task? In any case, I got a blank line in my SMV. Spike score could well have been +0.35 or more when it comes to this task.

Edit on this:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1110326874

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2702519299

Please don't forget my wingman on this task!

See you tomorrow!

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Message 1303791 - Posted: 9 Nov 2012, 1:06:04 UTC

If i go into preferences and change "use CPU" to no and "use GPU" to no and then update in BOINC manager .. the out come is the same as if I "suspend new tasks"

11/8/2012 5:49:30 PM | SETI@home | update requested by user
11/8/2012 5:49:34 PM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
11/8/2012 5:49:34 PM | SETI@home | Reporting 18 completed tasks, not requesting new tasks
11/8/2012 5:54:41 PM | SETI@home | Scheduler request failed: Timeout was reached
11/8/2012 5:54:45 PM | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
11/8/2012 5:54:46 PM | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.

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Message 1303792 - Posted: 9 Nov 2012, 1:13:33 UTC - in response to Message 1303791.
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If I happened to be in a forever, not-ending cycling loop, I would give a preference at uploading and reporting what I have, not what I would wish to have.

Results having been obtained in the past could possibly be better than would be achievable in the near future, but this fact apparently is not generally recognized as best as I am able to tell.

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Message 1303793 - Posted: 9 Nov 2012, 1:39:21 UTC - in response to Message 1303792.

If I happened to be in a forever, not-ending cycling loop, I would give a preference at uploading and reporting what I have, not what I would wish to have.

Results having been obtained in the past could possibly be better than would be achievable in the near future, but this fact apparently is not generally recognized as best as I am able to tell.


Thank you for your response bluestar, but I don't understand your suggestion to help fix my issue .. perhaps you could explain in more detail
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