Whoa there, kibbles........
Down about 100K tasks since the bandwidth got tied tight.

And that's with 9 kitties asking for kibble every chance they get.

Kibble bowls still full here, but begeejus.

Trouble in kibble land.

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A kitty keeps loneliness away.
More meowing, less hissing. I speak meow, do you?

Have made friends in this life.
Most were cats.

That's good for you msattler but the last time I got tasks actually downloaded to my cruncher was over a day ago. Sure I've got a load of new tasks assigned to me but they are "ghosts", server assigned but not actually downloaded.

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"Life is just nature's way of keeping meat fresh." - The Doctor

I feel I should ask my question again.

Does anyone know if the SETI staff is aware of this problem? It doesn't look like it would be easy for them to spot the trouble from their end right away. If that's true, then perhaps someone should make sure they know.

Thanks for looking. I have tried the no new task option twice and they are still showing in my tasks window. I understand we have a problem getting work units. I have my preferences set to take any type work unit. I am still not getting units. Is the work scheduler down or we just out of units?

Keith,

I've got the same indications you have. The web says I have 31 "In Progress", but none of them have actually downloaded, and I was able to clear the "Ready to Report" list by updating with NNT selected.

I still get this in my event log:
11/03/12 14:02:19 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU
11/03/12 14:07:45 | SETI@home | Scheduler request failed: Timeout was reached
11/03/12 14:07:47 | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
11/03/12 14:07:49 | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.

This was when I click the Update button, but I find the same messages earlier in the log when BOINC did it itself.

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That's good for you msattler but the last time I got tasks actually downloaded to my cruncher was over a day ago. Sure I've got a load of new tasks assigned to me but they are "ghosts", server assigned but not actually downloaded.

The kitties loaded up during the good times last week, so they are good to go for a bit.
Bad thing is......
Looks like the AP splitting and MB splitting are in lockstep right now.
Not a good thingy. At least not for us MB workers. I did apparently get about 6 AP tasks in the last 24 hours.

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A kitty keeps loneliness away.
More meowing, less hissing. I speak meow, do you?

Have made friends in this life.
Most were cats.

Oh my mistake, I thought you were saying you were able to downloaded 100K tasks not that you went through 100K tasks.

Apologies.

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"Life is just nature's way of keeping meat fresh." - The Doctor

Thanks for looking. I have tried the no new task option twice and they are still showing in my tasks window. I understand we have a problem getting work units. I have my preferences set to take any type work unit. I am still not getting units. Is the work scheduler down or we just out of units?

scheduler is out but as this looks like a more complex problem(every attempt to contact the server without "no new tasks" bounces into a time out) it will take more from the staff then a remote reset.

So probably this will last at least until monday morning pacific time...

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I've aborted 6 AP task downloads. Each after they repeatedly tried to download never getting past the 1.5 KBps threshold and never past the 1.6% total down after an hour of logged download time. Got two spinning right now doing the same thing. I'd love to crunch these things, but if they never arrive I can't. Currently one of them has reached the 1.99% after 47 minutes (a new record!). If these need to be aborted as well, then I'll have to turn off AP downloads altogether until this is addressed.

I have noticed that there seems to be some relation to the transient HTTP error as each time the DL has stopped that error pops up in the log. There is no relation to reporting or uploading as I haven't crunched any type of work unit since (I think) Wednesday.

There's something local to you causing this. I've just been given another AP unit which downloaded successfully in 10 minutes.

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Well, just rebooted both the firewall and router and it shot up to 39 KBps and that rapidly dwindled to 3KBps. using the hosts method and declaring .21 as the go to server. tracert to both .21 and .13 reveal the transfer at berkeley is choked at 208.178.58.185 (unknown ownership) and 67.16.134.26 (a global exchange server)

[edit] After another timeout I ran another set of tracert: 64.71.140.42 didn't want to identify itself after having decent sub 20ms pings, 208.68.243.254 with 2 drops and a 59ms ping, 208.68.240.13 two lines with one dropped ping each and an average of 60ms.

[edit2] Seems to have sorted as I just got 4 AP units after aborting the two that were hanging.

Just for info .. - because it was asked.

I sent an EMail to the S@h admins Dave, Eric, Matt and Jeff at Friday Nov/02 01:08 UTC.

To now no answer.

For a few minutes I sent a 2nd EMail.


* Best regards! :-) * Sutaru Tsureku, team seti.international founder. * Optimize your PC for higher RAC. * SETI@home needs your help. *

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Just for info .. - because it was asked.

I sent an EMail to the S@h admins Dave, Eric, Matt and Jeff at Friday Nov/02 01:08 UTC.

To now no answer.

For a few minutes I sent a 2nd EMail.


* Best regards! :-) * Sutaru Tsureku, team seti.international founder. * Optimize your PC for higher RAC. * SETI@home needs your help. *

Please ask them to stop AP spliting until they realy fix the problem, or at least make some load balancing keeping the AP WU to use no more than 30% of the bandwith. So we could refill our caches.

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Almost 10 Millions Results out in the field??

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Nothing to do with shorties, or APs. There's a problem with the scheduler which has been going on for a few weeks, even when there are few shorties or APs around. For some reason or other the scheduler just stops responding correctly for a few hours at a time, then crawls back into life for a bit, only to go off for anther nap. Very frustrating to put it mildly.

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Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?

Ok, we all know now that there is something very wrong but at least when you set to NNT you can report and empty out your cache...

Even with NNT set & only a couple of taks to report the Scheduler still usually times out.
Overnight i didin't get a single Scheduler response on either of my systems.

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Grant
Darwin NT

They will be acknowledged as report right now only if you select "No New Tasks" on the projects tab.

I wish that were true.
I'll mention it again- even with only a couple of tasks to report & No New Tasks set the Scheduler still usually times out. Theres 1 time in about 20 where it doesn't.
Uploads have been slow for much of this time as well.

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Grant
Darwin NT

sigh.... my computers are sitting out there doing absolutely nothing

Have one sitting here with 39 lost tasks and have nothing to crunch. been empty about 5 hours now. :(

Still crunching......
But many rigs are on their 2 and 3 hour comms timeouts.......not pretty.

Something other than just bandwidth saturation is at play here. And it's not playing well with others.

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A kitty keeps loneliness away.
More meowing, less hissing. I speak meow, do you?

Have made friends in this life.
Most were cats.