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Message 1305254 - Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 4:00:08 UTC - in response to Message 1303442.


You might look at his avatar too.

Ay, did notice that regarding his avatar yet tartan searches for Mcleod seem to
want to direct you to Macleod. No doubt though John will explain the difference
in names.


Mcleod of Lewis tartan.

It depends on where you where when people started formalizing spelling rules. McLeod, MacLeod, McCloud, and MacCloud are all the same clan. The latter two involved being someplace where English was more commonly spoken that Gaelic when the spelling of your last name was formalized. The chief of the clan spells his last name MacLeod. We really don't know which part of the McLeod terrority our family came from as the earliest we can track back is on the wrong side of Scotland, and not near any McLeod teritory at all. The most likely place seems to be Ardvrek castle even though that is highly speculative.
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Message 1305255 - Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 4:02:37 UTC - in response to Message 1305254.


You might look at his avatar too.

Ay, did notice that regarding his avatar yet tartan searches for Mcleod seem to
want to direct you to Macleod. No doubt though John will explain the difference
in names.


Mcleod of Lewis tartan.

It depends on where you where when people started formalizing spelling rules. McLeod, MacLeod, McCloud, and MacCloud are all the same clan. The latter two involved being someplace where English was more commonly spoken that Gaelic when the spelling of your last name was formalized. The chief of the clan spells his last name MacLeod. We really don't know which part of the McLeod terrority our family came from as the earliest we can track back is on the wrong side of Scotland, and not near any McLeod teritory at all. The most likely place seems to be Ardvrek castle even though that is highly speculative.

Well that beats 1770 Wexford Ireland.
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Message 1305261 - Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 4:22:23 UTC - in response to Message 1305255.
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You might look at his avatar too.

Ay, did notice that regarding his avatar yet tartan searches for Mcleod seem to
want to direct you to Macleod. No doubt though John will explain the difference
in names.


Mcleod of Lewis tartan.

It depends on where you where when people started formalizing spelling rules. McLeod, MacLeod, McCloud, and MacCloud are all the same clan. The latter two involved being someplace where English was more commonly spoken that Gaelic when the spelling of your last name was formalized. The chief of the clan spells his last name MacLeod. We really don't know which part of the McLeod terrority our family came from as the earliest we can track back is on the wrong side of Scotland, and not near any McLeod teritory at all. The most likely place seems to be Ardvrek castle even though that is highly speculative.

Well that beats 1770 Wexford Ireland.

Unfortunately, we cannot trace back solidy much earlier than 1800 on that line. We have verbal family history that the first name is remembering a great hero, and that prior to the first, there was a history of alternating John and George. There is a story in the history of Scotland from the begining of the clearances about a John McLeod at Ardvrek castle who succeeded in holding out for 40 days while the chief of the castle went out to try to find enough money to hold off the collectors. Possible link? Yes. Confirmed link? No. Since we found the family on mainland Scotland instead of the isles, and obviously in careers as landsmen, the link to the isles seems tenuous.

One thin line on my mothers side goes back to about 1100.
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Message 1306751 - Posted: 16 Nov 2012, 13:16:53 UTC

Um, the blonde on the far left .....

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Message 1309429 - Posted: 23 Nov 2012, 19:58:11 UTC

Toad in the hole, heard of that? Bacon and onion dumpling?? Yum.

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Message 1309454 - Posted: 23 Nov 2012, 21:01:41 UTC

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Toad in the hole = bubble and squeak on a full fat diet....
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Message 1309460 - Posted: 23 Nov 2012, 21:17:33 UTC - in response to Message 1309454.

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Toad in the hole = bubble and squeak on a full fat diet....

Didn't get the translation either.

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Message 1309462 - Posted: 23 Nov 2012, 21:20:50 UTC - in response to Message 1309460.

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Toad in the hole = bubble and squeak on a full fat diet....

Didn't get the translation either.

Yeah Me neither, of course right now, I'm not feeling so great...
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Message 1309463 - Posted: 23 Nov 2012, 21:21:36 UTC

Toad in the hole
Sausage, big fat sausages arranged in a sort of over grown Yorkshire pud
Bubble and Squeak, the same sausages in either mashed potatoes or batter (North/South dived), but with the added "delight" of boiled cabbage.




I'll allow the reader to decide why bubble and squeak is so called....
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Message 1309587 - Posted: 24 Nov 2012, 4:02:11 UTC
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Toad in the hole, depending on who you speak to, can be made with all sorts of meat, although these days it is usually sausages.

My grandmother insisted it was left over cooked meat, my aunt, who now lives in New England, uses spam, but that was probably because she got spam as an extra from my Uncle before they were married. My mother used sausages but always cooked them first and then cut them into bite sized chunks before covering in batter.

Until recently, when it became a pre-cooked frozen dish, I don't know anyone north of Watford who even knew of Bubble and Squeak. In fact I think it was originaly only a London dish, probably from the East End.

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Message 1309596 - Posted: 24 Nov 2012, 4:42:54 UTC - in response to Message 1309587.

Sounds interesting.
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Message 1309626 - Posted: 24 Nov 2012, 6:54:48 UTC

Even more so if the cabbage is supplemented/replaced with sprouts...
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Message 1309635 - Posted: 24 Nov 2012, 7:17:49 UTC - in response to Message 1309626.
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Even more so if the cabbage is supplemented/replaced with sprouts...

Isn't that covered by some cruelty law, or failing that, could it classed as an NBC attack.

edit] I have just imagined the result if washed down with a pint of Newcastle Brown or similar.

edit2] and a couple of spoons of mushy peas.

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Message 1309642 - Posted: 24 Nov 2012, 7:57:09 UTC

Newcastle Brown, now there's an ale from the past.
Spied it in Sainsbury's the other day and decided to try a bottle. Not sure if they've changed the brew, but its still not the most palatable ale around, nor the most gassy....

I've only once had the sprout/cabbage version of bubble and squeak. That is one culinary experience that I would prefer not to repeat, ranking alongside sheep's eyes and witchetty grubs, but not quite as rank as tripe (in any form)
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Message 1309674 - Posted: 24 Nov 2012, 10:00:57 UTC

OY you guys, all that belong in the Cooking/Beer thread.
OK more off topic. I liked my Grandma's tripe. Off course in a sweet and sour sauce to cover it good.
What can I say.
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Message 1309742 - Posted: 24 Nov 2012, 12:26:19 UTC - in response to Message 1309674.

OY you guys, all that belong in the Cooking/Beer thread.
OK more off topic. I liked my Grandma's tripe. Off course in a sweet and sour sauce to cover it good.
What can I say.

Oy yourself, go find your own national food site.

Now should I wash down this meal of Westfälische Schinken, Kartoffelsalat und Sauerkraut with a DAB or a Herforder Pils

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Message 1309915 - Posted: 24 Nov 2012, 20:47:03 UTC

Hmm, now given Uli is a German national who by choice lives in the USA which one should she choose?
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Message 1310010 - Posted: 25 Nov 2012, 1:26:22 UTC

If you haven't had one of these you haven't lived :)

Originating from where I was born/bred and continue to live, I shall be having one on new years. Nom nom nom :)
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