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Message 1324725 - Posted: 4 Jan 2013, 22:36:33 UTC - in response to Message 1324436.

Ok suppose we are able to make and control a light photon bubble(stolen from star trek) and were able to manipulate that bubble to the speed of light. The interior of the bubble would not be affected by the mass equation in that scenario

Light photon bubble? Oooookayyyy. <backs slowly from the room>

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This unusual advance could lead to new engines that could technically be more than 100 percent efficient, and shed light on mysteries such as dark energy, the mysterious substance that is apparently pulling our universe apart.

I use photons as a plausible solution. Considering that they are moving at the speed of light, collecting them and surrounding a vehicle with a bubble of photons seems to me to be a means of avoiding the mass part of the einstein equation. I didn't say this would be easy. We are already slowing light down with gravitational fields and harnessing nuclear fusion for a few milliseconds

Now as my link shows we now have a plausible means of running engines at greater than 100% efficiency, which as I recall was a stopping point for anything with mass to approach the speed of light.

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Message 1324807 - Posted: 5 Jan 2013, 5:25:59 UTC
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We should not forget the important fact that everything we see and observe in the Universe is matter which is represented by its inherited mass.

Strangely enough, even a galaxy may be shown to be floating freely in space. There are no wires which are holding it up, still it does not fall down.

So the same matter can also be represented by the energy which it corresponds to.

Most people find it hard to believe that energy is the result of particles or particle creation.

Our knowledge tells us that fusion is the most effective way of transforming mass into energy. Still we are able to observe even larger objects than stars undergoing explosive phases in their life cycles.

Galaxies on their own may be active, or even explosive in nature. Some galaxies, like M77 or NGC 4151 are Seyfert galaxies. Other galaxies, like NGC 1275 in Perseus (Perseus A) appear to have almost exploded as a whole.

Why not have a closer look at the celestial wonder M101 in Ursa Major? If you happen to love the Whirlpool galaxy M51 in Canes Venatici, you may possibly have forgotten this beautiful face on galaxy.

And the story is all about planets as well. Recent studies indicate that there are countless planets among the 200 billion or so stars which are located in the Milky Way alone. It is quite a possibility that E.T. may be around not only in our own backyard, but are present in far away galaxies as well.

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Message 1324956 - Posted: 5 Jan 2013, 16:03:09 UTC
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Now as my link shows we now have a plausible means of running engines at greater than 100% efficiency,

This would not be a closed system and hence the excess efficiency must emanate from energy applied outside of the system in question. Just as an air conditioner can easily be 300 % efficient by pumping energy into and out of the environment.

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Message 1325765 - Posted: 8 Jan 2013, 12:01:06 UTC
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Now here's a fantastic one for ID: Quantum physics engineered for high efficiency power in solar powered bacteria?!

Bacterial quantum tricks could help solar power

Deep-sea microbe re-energises incoming light with molecular vibrations

... found a mechanism in the bacteria that captures some of the energy that might otherwise dissipate, by “reenergising it back to exciton level through molecular vibrations”. Its PPCs “ensure that every photon absorbed makes it to the structure’s reaction centre”.

The bacteria’s structure is able to preserve quantum coherence as the energy is transported, much more efficiently than happens in other systems...

... “These biological systems can direct a quantum process, in this case energy transport, in astoundingly subtle and controlled ways – showing remarkable resistance to the aggressive, random background noise of biology and extreme environments,”...

There's some phenomenal pressures with that one!


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