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Message 1297037 - Posted: 20 Oct 2012, 1:54:03 UTC - in response to Message 1297032.
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Out of the 14, I wonder how many will look in the forums and see that they have a message?
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Message 1297040 - Posted: 20 Oct 2012, 2:01:11 UTC - in response to Message 1297038.
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Does it flash in red?
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Message 1297042 - Posted: 20 Oct 2012, 2:10:45 UTC - in response to Message 1297041.

Does it flash in red?

LOL...no, but maybe it should.

It probably should.
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Message 1297045 - Posted: 20 Oct 2012, 2:23:56 UTC
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When I saw that I had 15 inconclusives I thought O man my GPU is crapping out. But when going through the work unit list I saw that I had CPU work doing the same. And upon further looking saw that I was teamed with fermi card wingmen. Had mostly 3 resends but had some on the 4th also.
These guys were hitting 30 spikes, And I would have 2 spikes.

What worries me is that if two fermi cards validate like has been talked about in the past.

I will keep a closer look on my output though just to make sure I have no problems.
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Message 1297046 - Posted: 20 Oct 2012, 2:24:53 UTC - in response to Message 1297038.

Out of the 14, I wonder how many will look in the forums and see that they have a message?

PMs are also shown on their main account page, if they look at that.

The thing is that you can't PM an Anonymous person and it's obvious that a lot don't even check their tasks page.

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Message 1297103 - Posted: 20 Oct 2012, 6:31:26 UTC

I've also noticed some of these that I'm paired with have been fermi cards that find the same 30 spikes James was talking about.
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Message 1297276 - Posted: 20 Oct 2012, 18:15:09 UTC - in response to Message 1297103.
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I've also noticed some of these that I'm paired with have been fermi cards that find the same 30 spikes James was talking about.


Some or all
just are very wrong.


Another....

All (830) · In progress (242) · Validation pending (506) · Validation inconclusive (15) · Valid (66) · Invalid (0) · Error (1)


And it's 1 host, out of 3.
My ATI host is even worse,
State: All (2457) · In progress (2030) · Validation pending (385) · Validation inconclusive (19) · Valid (23) · Invalid (0) · Error (0)


And the 3rd host :
State: All (692) · In progress (390) · Validation pending (141) · Validation inconclusive (25) · Valid (136) · Invalid (0) · Error (0)


About 20% error rate atleast.
A GTX470 GTX 480 and 2 HD5870 GPUs, CPUs respec. Q6600, QX9650, i7-2600.
No AstroPulse work ofcoarse, cause there isn't AP work.

What can cause these errors, drivers, hardware?
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Message 1297299 - Posted: 20 Oct 2012, 19:11:17 UTC - in response to Message 1297276.

I've also noticed some of these that I'm paired with have been fermi cards that find the same 30 spikes James was talking about.


Some or all
just are very wrong.


Another....

All (830) · In progress (242) · Validation pending (506) · Validation inconclusive (15) · Valid (66) · Invalid (0) · Error (1)


And it's 1 host, out of 3.
My ATI host is even worse,
State: All (2457) · In progress (2030) · Validation pending (385) · Validation inconclusive (19) · Valid (23) · Invalid (0) · Error (0)


And the 3rd host :
State: All (692) · In progress (390) · Validation pending (141) · Validation inconclusive (25) · Valid (136) · Invalid (0) · Error (0)


About 20% error rate atleast.
A GTX470 GTX 480 and 2 HD5870 GPUs, CPUs respec. Q6600, QX9650, i7-2600.
No AstroPulse work ofcoarse, cause there isn't AP work.

What can cause these errors, drivers, hardware?

"Validation inconclusive" is a sub-category of "Validation pending" - they used all to be lumped together, now the inconclusives are shown separately.

But they are still pending validation - a temporary state.

Since you are showing no invalid tasks, and only one error, across all three machines, my verdict would be - "no problem".

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Message 1297357 - Posted: 20 Oct 2012, 22:32:21 UTC

Just noticed Ive picked up 6 more inconclusives. 4 of them from my CPU. All wingmen are running fermi cards. So Im convinced its not me but them. They show 30 spikes verus my 2 or 4 spikes.
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Message 1297378 - Posted: 20 Oct 2012, 23:33:32 UTC - in response to Message 1297357.

Just noticed Ive picked up 6 more inconclusives. 4 of them from my CPU. All wingmen are running fermi cards. So Im convinced its not me but them. They show 30 spikes verus my 2 or 4 spikes.

Yep, you have picked up several bad wingmates and most of them I've already PM'd them about their rigs so you have nothing to worry about atm.

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Message 1297429 - Posted: 21 Oct 2012, 4:47:47 UTC - in response to Message 1297378.

Folks who I've messaged but are throwing nothing but bad tasks back into the system:

7787994 (Kiswa)
1983609 (Chris)
210476 (Jimmie Stolz) (Some good tasks, but a ton of invalids)
9113935 (adrianozattera) (Some good, lot of bad)
61827 (Robinton Family (N1CRZ, N1TUF, KB1DYD)
9608803 (randythelegend)

I got bored at this point, but good lord there are some folks producing thousands of invalids with no valid work at all.
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Message 1297430 - Posted: 21 Oct 2012, 5:07:33 UTC - in response to Message 1297429.


I got bored at this point, but good lord there are some folks producing thousands of invalids with no valid work at all.

Yes,and most of them use graphic boards to accelerate processing and also the number of invalid results. I don't use them, I may have an invalid result once in a while,as I had recently on a Solaris Virtual Machine processing a VLAR.
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Message 1297431 - Posted: 21 Oct 2012, 5:17:32 UTC - in response to Message 1297429.

Folks who I've messaged but are throwing nothing but bad tasks back into the system:

7787994 (Kiswa)
1983609 (Chris)
210476 (Jimmie Stolz) (Some good tasks, but a ton of invalids)
9113935 (adrianozattera) (Some good, lot of bad)
61827 (Robinton Family (N1CRZ, N1TUF, KB1DYD)
9608803 (randythelegend)

I got bored at this point, but good lord there are some folks producing thousands of invalids with no valid work at all.

People I've PM'd
39403 (Pim)
8696873 (nstar)

Both of these had machines with more than 6,000 Inconclusive/Invalid/Error results.

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Message 1297461 - Posted: 21 Oct 2012, 7:07:53 UTC - in response to Message 1297452.

My only problem with all this crap is that the automagic limiters in the project specifications are not shutting down these rouge rigs.

Crap, if one on my rigs goes of into the woods somehow, don't waste the bandwidth sending it any more freaking tasks.........

Can't the servers get a better handle on this??????


That's a good point.

I'm curious to see how many project resources are being allocated to reprocessing invalid/error tasks.

I'll see if I can find anything out about this.

Next up on my list:

699798 (DG71)
8637650 (mamoru@igo-shogi)
9774123 (Nolan)
36267 (Eric Livingston)
285742 (3rik)
7888117 (HalbesHuhn)

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Message 1297462 - Posted: 21 Oct 2012, 7:16:06 UTC - in response to Message 1297452.

My only problem with all this.........

Can't the servers get a better handle on this??????

Obviously not as it took around 12mths to get a handle on 1 infamous Anonymous user. :(

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Message 1297464 - Posted: 21 Oct 2012, 7:23:30 UTC - in response to Message 1297461.

That's a good point.

I'm curious to see how many project resources are being allocated to reprocessing invalid/error tasks.

I'll see if I can find anything out about this.

Next up on my list:

699798 (DG71)
8637650 (mamoru@igo-shogi)
9774123 (Nolan)
36267 (Eric Livingston)
285742 (3rik)
7888117 (HalbesHuhn)

My list for this month has now passed 100 (some have already named here) and if this month is like an other lately then I'll likely get another 15-25 (I must say though that I'm getting a better response to PM's now).

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