VALIDATION INCONCLUSIVE

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betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 1064 Credit: 2,006,098 RAC: 2,625	Message 1297037 - Posted: 20 Oct 2012, 1:54:03 UTC - in response to Message 1297032. Last modified: 20 Oct 2012, 1:54:43 UTC
	Out of the 14, I wonder how many will look in the forums and see that they have a message? ____________
	ID: 1297037 ·

msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34147 Credit: 343,953,056 RAC: 542,192	Message 1297038 - Posted: 20 Oct 2012, 1:55:09 UTC - in response to Message 1297037.
	Out of the 14, I wonder how many will look in the forums and see that they have a message? PMs are also shown on their main account page, if they look at that. ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
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betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 1064 Credit: 2,006,098 RAC: 2,625	Message 1297040 - Posted: 20 Oct 2012, 2:01:11 UTC - in response to Message 1297038. Last modified: 20 Oct 2012, 2:01:21 UTC
	Does it flash in red? ____________
	ID: 1297040 ·

msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34147 Credit: 343,953,056 RAC: 542,192	Message 1297041 - Posted: 20 Oct 2012, 2:01:55 UTC - in response to Message 1297040.
	Does it flash in red? LOL...no, but maybe it should. ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
	ID: 1297041 ·

betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 1064 Credit: 2,006,098 RAC: 2,625	Message 1297042 - Posted: 20 Oct 2012, 2:10:45 UTC - in response to Message 1297041.
	Does it flash in red? LOL...no, but maybe it should. It probably should. ____________
	ID: 1297042 ·

James Sotherden Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 6051 Credit: 14,693,782 RAC: 22,774	Message 1297045 - Posted: 20 Oct 2012, 2:23:56 UTC Last modified: 20 Oct 2012, 2:32:23 UTC
	When I saw that I had 15 inconclusives I thought O man my GPU is crapping out. But when going through the work unit list I saw that I had CPU work doing the same. And upon further looking saw that I was teamed with fermi card wingmen. Had mostly 3 resends but had some on the 4th also. These guys were hitting 30 spikes, And I would have 2 spikes. What worries me is that if two fermi cards validate like has been talked about in the past. I will keep a closer look on my output though just to make sure I have no problems. ____________
	ID: 1297045 ·

Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 1489 Credit: 62,612,988 RAC: 87,137	Message 1297046 - Posted: 20 Oct 2012, 2:24:53 UTC - in response to Message 1297038.
	Out of the 14, I wonder how many will look in the forums and see that they have a message? PMs are also shown on their main account page, if they look at that. The thing is that you can't PM an Anonymous person and it's obvious that a lot don't even check their tasks page. Cheers. ____________
	ID: 1297046 ·

KB7RZF Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 Aug 99 Posts: 9427 Credit: 2,090,002 RAC: 4,948	Message 1297103 - Posted: 20 Oct 2012, 6:31:26 UTC
	I've also noticed some of these that I'm paired with have been fermi cards that find the same 30 spikes James was talking about. ____________
	ID: 1297103 ·

Fred J. Verster Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 21 Apr 04 Posts: 3232 Credit: 31,585,541 RAC: 1	Message 1297276 - Posted: 20 Oct 2012, 18:15:09 UTC - in response to Message 1297103. Last modified: 20 Oct 2012, 19:00:06 UTC
	I've also noticed some of these that I'm paired with have been fermi cards that find the same 30 spikes James was talking about. Some or all just are very wrong. Another.... All (830) · In progress (242) · Validation pending (506) · Validation inconclusive (15) · Valid (66) · Invalid (0) · Error (1) And it's 1 host, out of 3. My ATI host is even worse, State: All (2457) · In progress (2030) · Validation pending (385) · Validation inconclusive (19) · Valid (23) · Invalid (0) · Error (0) And the 3rd host : State: All (692) · In progress (390) · Validation pending (141) · Validation inconclusive (25) · Valid (136) · Invalid (0) · Error (0) About 20% error rate atleast. A GTX470 GTX 480 and 2 HD5870 GPUs, CPUs respec. Q6600, QX9650, i7-2600. No AstroPulse work ofcoarse, cause there isn't AP work. What can cause these errors, drivers, hardware? ____________ Knight Who Says Ni N!, OUT numbered.................
	ID: 1297276 ·

Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 7458 Credit: 39,655,264 RAC: 33,286	Message 1297299 - Posted: 20 Oct 2012, 19:11:17 UTC - in response to Message 1297276.
	I've also noticed some of these that I'm paired with have been fermi cards that find the same 30 spikes James was talking about. Some or all just are very wrong. Another.... All (830) · In progress (242) · Validation pending (506) · Validation inconclusive (15) · Valid (66) · Invalid (0) · Error (1) And it's 1 host, out of 3. My ATI host is even worse, State: All (2457) · In progress (2030) · Validation pending (385) · Validation inconclusive (19) · Valid (23) · Invalid (0) · Error (0) And the 3rd host : State: All (692) · In progress (390) · Validation pending (141) · Validation inconclusive (25) · Valid (136) · Invalid (0) · Error (0) About 20% error rate atleast. A GTX470 GTX 480 and 2 HD5870 GPUs, CPUs respec. Q6600, QX9650, i7-2600. No AstroPulse work ofcoarse, cause there isn't AP work. What can cause these errors, drivers, hardware? "Validation inconclusive" is a sub-category of "Validation pending" - they used all to be lumped together, now the inconclusives are shown separately. But they are still pending validation - a temporary state. Since you are showing no invalid tasks, and only one error, across all three machines, my verdict would be - "no problem".
	ID: 1297299 ·

James Sotherden Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 6051 Credit: 14,693,782 RAC: 22,774	Message 1297357 - Posted: 20 Oct 2012, 22:32:21 UTC
	Just noticed Ive picked up 6 more inconclusives. 4 of them from my CPU. All wingmen are running fermi cards. So Im convinced its not me but them. They show 30 spikes verus my 2 or 4 spikes. ____________
	ID: 1297357 ·

Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 1489 Credit: 62,612,988 RAC: 87,137	Message 1297378 - Posted: 20 Oct 2012, 23:33:32 UTC - in response to Message 1297357.
	Just noticed Ive picked up 6 more inconclusives. 4 of them from my CPU. All wingmen are running fermi cards. So Im convinced its not me but them. They show 30 spikes verus my 2 or 4 spikes. Yep, you have picked up several bad wingmates and most of them I've already PM'd them about their rigs so you have nothing to worry about atm. Cheers. ____________
	ID: 1297378 ·

Slavac Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 27 Apr 11 Posts: 1932 Credit: 17,952,120 RAC: 8	Message 1297429 - Posted: 21 Oct 2012, 4:47:47 UTC - in response to Message 1297378.
	Folks who I've messaged but are throwing nothing but bad tasks back into the system: 7787994 (Kiswa) 1983609 (Chris) 210476 (Jimmie Stolz) (Some good tasks, but a ton of invalids) 9113935 (adrianozattera) (Some good, lot of bad) 61827 (Robinton Family (N1CRZ, N1TUF, KB1DYD) 9608803 (randythelegend) I got bored at this point, but good lord there are some folks producing thousands of invalids with no valid work at all. ____________ Executive Director GPU Users Group Inc. - brad@gpuug.org
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tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 2903 Credit: 259,140 RAC: 300	Message 1297430 - Posted: 21 Oct 2012, 5:07:33 UTC - in response to Message 1297429.
	I got bored at this point, but good lord there are some folks producing thousands of invalids with no valid work at all. Yes,and most of them use graphic boards to accelerate processing and also the number of invalid results. I don't use them, I may have an invalid result once in a while,as I had recently on a Solaris Virtual Machine processing a VLAR. Tullio ____________
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Terror Australis Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Feb 04 Posts: 1417 Credit: 181,720,714 RAC: 158,391	Message 1297431 - Posted: 21 Oct 2012, 5:17:32 UTC - in response to Message 1297429.
	Folks who I've messaged but are throwing nothing but bad tasks back into the system: 7787994 (Kiswa) 1983609 (Chris) 210476 (Jimmie Stolz) (Some good tasks, but a ton of invalids) 9113935 (adrianozattera) (Some good, lot of bad) 61827 (Robinton Family (N1CRZ, N1TUF, KB1DYD) 9608803 (randythelegend) I got bored at this point, but good lord there are some folks producing thousands of invalids with no valid work at all. People I've PM'd 39403 (Pim) 8696873 (nstar) Both of these had machines with more than 6,000 Inconclusive/Invalid/Error results. T.A.
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msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34147 Credit: 343,953,056 RAC: 542,192	Message 1297452 - Posted: 21 Oct 2012, 7:00:53 UTC
	My only problem with all this crap is that the automagic limiters in the project specifications are not shutting down these rouge rigs. Crap, if one on my rigs goes of into the woods somehow, don't waste the bandwidth sending it any more freaking tasks......... Can't the servers get a better handle on this?????? ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
	ID: 1297452 ·

Slavac Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 27 Apr 11 Posts: 1932 Credit: 17,952,120 RAC: 8	Message 1297461 - Posted: 21 Oct 2012, 7:07:53 UTC - in response to Message 1297452.
	My only problem with all this crap is that the automagic limiters in the project specifications are not shutting down these rouge rigs. Crap, if one on my rigs goes of into the woods somehow, don't waste the bandwidth sending it any more freaking tasks......... Can't the servers get a better handle on this?????? That's a good point. I'm curious to see how many project resources are being allocated to reprocessing invalid/error tasks. I'll see if I can find anything out about this. Next up on my list: 699798 (DG71) 8637650 (mamoru@igo-shogi) 9774123 (Nolan) 36267 (Eric Livingston) 285742 (3rik) 7888117 (HalbesHuhn) ____________ Executive Director GPU Users Group Inc. - brad@gpuug.org
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Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 1489 Credit: 62,612,988 RAC: 87,137	Message 1297462 - Posted: 21 Oct 2012, 7:16:06 UTC - in response to Message 1297452.
	My only problem with all this......... Can't the servers get a better handle on this?????? Obviously not as it took around 12mths to get a handle on 1 infamous Anonymous user. :( Cheers. ____________
	ID: 1297462 ·

Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 1489 Credit: 62,612,988 RAC: 87,137	Message 1297464 - Posted: 21 Oct 2012, 7:23:30 UTC - in response to Message 1297461.
	That's a good point. I'm curious to see how many project resources are being allocated to reprocessing invalid/error tasks. I'll see if I can find anything out about this. Next up on my list: 699798 (DG71) 8637650 (mamoru@igo-shogi) 9774123 (Nolan) 36267 (Eric Livingston) 285742 (3rik) 7888117 (HalbesHuhn) My list for this month has now passed 100 (some have already named here) and if this month is like an other lately then I'll likely get another 15-25 (I must say though that I'm getting a better response to PM's now). Cheers. ____________
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msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34147 Credit: 343,953,056 RAC: 542,192	Message 1297467 - Posted: 21 Oct 2012, 7:27:58 UTC
	Look, if a host is turning in valid work, by all means cut it loose. I got 9 fine kitties doing the deed quite well here. But, bejeezus, if a GPU goes haywire and ties it's undies in a bundy, stop sending it tasks, please. I certainly would not be offended. ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
	ID: 1297467 ·

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