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fscheel Send message Joined: 13 Apr 12 Posts: 73 Credit: 11,135,641 RAC: 3	Message 1296495 - Posted: 18 Oct 2012, 10:28:19 UTC
	I see that I now have 174 tasks that are inconclusive.Have not noticed it ever being that high. Is this something being caused by my machines? Thanks Frank ____________
	ID: 1296495 ·

Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 1654 Credit: 64,299,135 RAC: 54,602	Message 1296496 - Posted: 18 Oct 2012, 10:52:02 UTC - in response to Message 1296495.
	From the quick look that I did all I can see is that you have some wingmates that have unstable PC's. None of your rigs show invalids so if I were you I wouldn't worry about it. Cheers. ____________
	ID: 1296496 ·

fscheel Send message Joined: 13 Apr 12 Posts: 73 Credit: 11,135,641 RAC: 3	Message 1296497 - Posted: 18 Oct 2012, 10:56:09 UTC - in response to Message 1296496.
	From the quick look that I did all I can see is that you have some wingmates that have unstable PC's. None of your rigs show invalids so if I were you I wouldn't worry about it. Cheers. Thanks. I did not want to be causing problems for someone else.
	ID: 1296497 ·

Bill G Send message Joined: 1 Jun 01 Posts: 241 Credit: 19,664,293 RAC: 18,061	Message 1296505 - Posted: 18 Oct 2012, 12:23:34 UTC - in response to Message 1296497. Last modified: 18 Oct 2012, 12:25:17 UTC
	I think there is more going on here. I am seeing a lot of inconclusive results as well, some of which have already had 4 different people process them. Mixed in with some of the inconclusive results from others are results with errors (not seeing errors on my computers). Either the WUs are at fault of the calculations have changed somehow. It is nice to see a seperate category for these WUs. ____________
	ID: 1296505 ·

Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 1654 Credit: 64,299,135 RAC: 54,602	Message 1296506 - Posted: 18 Oct 2012, 12:37:54 UTC - in response to Message 1296505.
	I think there is more going on here. I am seeing a lot of inconclusive results as well, some of which have already had 4 different people process them. Mixed in with some of the inconclusive results from others are results with errors (not seeing errors on my computers). Either the WUs are at fault of the calculations have changed somehow. It is nice to see a seperate category for these WUs. At a quick look Bill you are in the same book, you've just been paired with some bad wingmates. Cheers. ____________
	ID: 1296506 ·

Bill G Send message Joined: 1 Jun 01 Posts: 241 Credit: 19,664,293 RAC: 18,061	Message 1296508 - Posted: 18 Oct 2012, 12:47:22 UTC - in response to Message 1296506. Last modified: 18 Oct 2012, 13:42:36 UTC
	I think there is more going on here. I am seeing a lot of inconclusive results as well, some of which have already had 4 different people process them. Mixed in with some of the inconclusive results from others are results with errors (not seeing errors on my computers). Either the WUs are at fault of the calculations have changed somehow. It is nice to see a seperate category for these WUs. At a quick look Bill you are in the same book, you've just been paired with some bad wingmates. Cheers. OK, but I will keep an eye on this. I guess if you process enough WUs you are going to see a lot of strange happenings. ____________
	ID: 1296508 ·

N9JFE Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 2867 Credit: 8,771,367 RAC: 11,928	Message 1296510 - Posted: 18 Oct 2012, 13:10:59 UTC
	I'm also seeing some inconclusives and errors. In particular, I'd like to understand what's going on with this one. I can't see why it's inconclusive. Also, how does a task come out "abandoned" (by another user, not me)? My i7 is suddenly showing some inconclusives and new errors, but I thought it might have something to do with the machine being frozen for 3 days. I looked at it Tuesday night and its clock was still showing 4:57 pm on Saturday. I don't think any work timed out because of it, but if it did I apologize to my wingies. ____________ David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri.
	ID: 1296510 ·

msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34711 Credit: 354,852,072 RAC: 376,282	Message 1296545 - Posted: 18 Oct 2012, 15:17:03 UTC
	All of a sudden I am seeing the new category...... And I am showing 1,111 'validation inconclusive' tasks from the kitty farm. ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
	ID: 1296545 ·

fscheel Send message Joined: 13 Apr 12 Posts: 73 Credit: 11,135,641 RAC: 3	Message 1296556 - Posted: 18 Oct 2012, 15:42:29 UTC
	Hmmm. So would I be correct in thinking that a task listed in the inconclusive category would, once it had completed the resend, appear in my valid tasks? Or if the resend did not match mine, would appear in my invalid list?
	ID: 1296556 ·

msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34711 Credit: 354,852,072 RAC: 376,282	Message 1296566 - Posted: 18 Oct 2012, 15:52:12 UTC - in response to Message 1296556.
	Hmmm. So would I be correct in thinking that a task listed in the inconclusive category would, once it had completed the resend, appear in my valid tasks? Or if the resend did not match mine, would appear in my invalid list? Yes, I would assume so. And I am not too worried about the large number showing for the kitty farm, as most of the invalids I have seen here were the result of clogged up servers resulting in WU reissues that could not be completed in time. So I believe that most of them will finally end up being validated and credit awarded. ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
	ID: 1296566 ·

Terror Australis Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Feb 04 Posts: 1443 Credit: 184,909,585 RAC: 113,991	Message 1296588 - Posted: 18 Oct 2012, 16:40:25 UTC - in response to Message 1296556.
	Hmmm. So would I be correct in thinking that a task listed in the inconclusive category would, once it had completed the resend, appear in my valid tasks? Or if the resend did not match mine, would appear in my invalid list? You've got it. T.A.
	ID: 1296588 ·

WezH Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 75 Credit: 2,340,938 RAC: 4,919	Message 1296590 - Posted: 18 Oct 2012, 16:43:50 UTC
	I did check out all 14 of Validation inconclusive tasks and nine of them are when my wing-man have cuda/cuda_fermi. And all of those have Spike count 30. Coincidence or problem? ____________
	ID: 1296590 ·

Terror Australis Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Feb 04 Posts: 1443 Credit: 184,909,585 RAC: 113,991	Message 1296591 - Posted: 18 Oct 2012, 16:48:27 UTC - in response to Message 1296545. Last modified: 18 Oct 2012, 16:48:59 UTC
	All of a sudden I am seeing the new category...... And I am showing 1,111 'validation inconclusive' tasks from the kitty farm. One of my wingmen had 5,500 "inconclusives", 1,300 "invalids" and only 16 "valid" tasks, and that was on just one machine. I had a couple of other wingmen with more than 2,500 "inconclusives" and a 1,000 or more invalids. All of them seemed to have one or more 560Ti's running amok. T.A.
	ID: 1296591 ·

msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34711 Credit: 354,852,072 RAC: 376,282	Message 1296595 - Posted: 18 Oct 2012, 16:53:52 UTC - in response to Message 1296591. Last modified: 18 Oct 2012, 16:54:09 UTC
	All of a sudden I am seeing the new category...... And I am showing 1,111 'validation inconclusive' tasks from the kitty farm. One of my wingmen had 5,500 "inconclusives", 1,300 "invalids" and only 16 "valid" tasks, and that was on just one machine. I had a couple of other wingmen with more than 2,500 "inconclusives" and a 1,000 or more invalids. All of them seemed to have one or more 560Ti's running amok. T.A. Out of the many 1000s of WUs the kitties process, I only have 7 invalids. I do keep an eye on invalids and errors in case something goes off into the woods, but no problems on the farm here. ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
	ID: 1296595 ·

Brkovip Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 274 Credit: 141,163,533 RAC: 16,684	Message 1296974 - Posted: 19 Oct 2012, 20:02:49 UTC
	I just ran into this also. 80ish results that are testing out as Validation inconclusive the good note is others are getting the same results. Do we have any concrete reasons for this? ____________
	ID: 1296974 ·

Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 1654 Credit: 64,299,135 RAC: 54,602	Message 1296986 - Posted: 19 Oct 2012, 20:33:33 UTC - in response to Message 1296974.
	I just ran into this also. 80ish results that are testing out as Validation inconclusive the good note is others are getting the same results. Do we have any concrete reasons for this? The best reason I can see is that it's much easier now to find those wingmates running unreliable rigs and some of them may take notice of the new category and work out that they have a problem without someone sending them a PM. :D So long as you're not getting anything in the Invalid section why worry? ;) Cheers. ____________
	ID: 1296986 ·

Mike Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 19781 Credit: 21,914,247 RAC: 29,323	Message 1296996 - Posted: 19 Oct 2012, 21:25:29 UTC - in response to Message 1296986.
	I just ran into this also. 80ish results that are testing out as Validation inconclusive the good note is others are getting the same results. Do we have any concrete reasons for this? The best reason I can see is that it's much easier now to find those wingmates running unreliable rigs and some of them may take notice of the new category and work out that they have a problem without someone sending them a PM. :D So long as you're not getting anything in the Invalid section why worry? ;) Cheers. I totally agree. ____________
	ID: 1296996 ·

Slavac Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 27 Apr 11 Posts: 1932 Credit: 17,952,639 RAC: 9	Message 1297024 - Posted: 20 Oct 2012, 0:31:29 UTC - in response to Message 1296996.
	I think I'll take up a new hobby when I'm bored, "Writing my wingmen with borked machines and inviting them into the NC forum to get sorted out." I found a dozen folks without trying that were pumping out a ton of tasks, but only maybe a dozen would go valid while 5000+ invalids stacked up. ____________ Executive Director GPU Users Group Inc. - brad@gpuug.org
	ID: 1297024 ·

betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 1162 Credit: 2,068,803 RAC: 2,259	Message 1297026 - Posted: 20 Oct 2012, 0:35:54 UTC - in response to Message 1297024.
	They are out there. ____________
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Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 1654 Credit: 64,299,135 RAC: 54,602	Message 1297032 - Posted: 20 Oct 2012, 1:01:50 UTC - in response to Message 1297026.
	89 of them here so far for me this month though 14 of them are anonymous but the rest got PM's. Cheers. ____________
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