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Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
"IVF" and the Virgin Mary The Bible says that Jesus's mother Mary was a virgin. In other words, Joseph did not have sex with Mary to get here pregnant with the baby Jesus. The Bible says Mary conceived Jesus while remaining a virgin. Apparently the "Holy spirit" came to Mary in the middle of the night and got here pregnant. Right now today, we have thousands of women all over the world that have had children through In vitro fertilisation, more commonly known as IVF treatment. Many lesbian couples today go to a sperm bank and select donor sperm for their child. Then a scientist will mix the donor sperm with an egg from one of the women in a test tube. The scientist then implants the fertilised embryo into one of the women so she can carry the child through to full term. These women are virgins, or at least they don't have to have sex to get pregnant. Just like the Virgin Mary in the Bible. The Biblical Virgin Mary was impregnated by scientists that visited her in the middle of the night, put her under an anaesthetic and, through IVF, they impregnated Mary with the Jesus embryo. These people were scientists!! They were very advanced scientists. And not only that, they had science that is ahead of what we have today! References; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_vitro_fertilisation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_birth_of_Jesus Jesus is coming back.....soon! Chris de Burgh - A Spaceman Came Travelling http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmZg7tvGN9o Chris De Burgh seems to make a prophecy of the Second Coming of Christ in this song: "The stranger returned and said 'now I must fly. When two thousand years of your time has gone by. This song will begin once again, to a baby's cry..." John. |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
It sure is fun to apply today's knowledge to the past and make it fit so it sounds good. I'd ask for proof, but I'm sure I'll be told that I have to wait a few years for it, and that you can't release the information you're decoding in an old book. So in other words, no real reason to believe you. |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
Yay to Jesus and his magic penis! (I am not sure how much you know about lesbians, but they do have sex.) Reality Internet Personality |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
(I am not sure how much you know about lesbians, but they do have sex.) <snark>(They can't "have sex" but they can "preform abomination" or at least that would be a fundie's viewpoint.)</snark> |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Yay to Jesus and his magic penis! With men? Isn't that where the term bi gets applied, then, not lesbian? |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
Yay to Jesus and his magic penis! Having had a few lesbian friends explain to me some of the things that lesbians do with one another (to be honest there is such a thing as too much information sometimes) I have reliable information that lesbians have sex without the aid of men. I hate to break it to some of the guys out there, but the penis isn't as necessary as you seem to think it is. Sorry. Reality Internet Personality |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
USA's ranking worldwide...17th in science and 25th in math. If this thread is what passes for science... England ranking of 65 countries...28th for math and 16th for science. If this thread is what passes for science... DUH! |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11359 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
ID, the Cr*p you pedal is a component of this countries score. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
ID, the Cr*p you pedal is a component of this countries score. +googolplex |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
People the fact remains, right now today, there are hundreds of thousands of women who have had baby's and they DID NOT have sex to produce the child. They are VIRGINS! Hence; There are THOUSANDS, if not hundreds of thousands of "Virgin Mary's" all over the world today! To top that off, isn't there some story in the Bible about, I can't remember her name, some old woman having a baby? Maybe it was Abraham's wife, i can't remember the story. Its possible her name was Elisabeth. Either way, WE ARE ALSO DOING THIS TODAY! Through IVF, and through other artificial methods, old women can get pregnant! The Bible is true! Thousands of years ago, there was a race of "scientists" here on Earth, that were described in the Bible as "God", and they were doing scientific things!! John. |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
People the fact remains, right now today, there are hundreds of thousands of women who have had baby's and they DID NOT have sex to produce the child. They are VIRGINS! In HitchHikers Guide to the Galaxy (H2G2) it rains. It's there in H2G2 rain! Also in H2G2, people buy and drink beer. Millions of people buy and drink beer every day! H2G2 is true I tell you. It's all true, the Vogons are coming and none of us are ready. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24876 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Mine's a pint of lager on the hour, every hour. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24876 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
I presume Sirius, that IVF means intravenous Fosters? Most definitelyVery Likely! |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
I honestly don't know what's wrong with you people here? Does anyone here think its even mildly interesting that the story of Mary getting pregnant with baby Jesus sounds exactly like IVF that is preformed all over the world on a daily basis? Our scientists do this today, its easy to do!! Does is not ring any alarm bells in your head telling you something is really wrong with our current interpretation of human history? John. |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
No Johnney, it doesn't make us want to apply today's knowledge with our human history like you do. I've always thought something along the lines of what Chris S. said earlier about it being far more likely that Mary was simply a naughty teenager than immaculate conception, and we certainly have no evidence to suggest that artificial insemination was the cause of Mary's pregnancy other than your claims of a mysterious book and a promise of future revelation that will likely never occur. I have not seen a single claim of yours show a modicum of credibility. You can believe what you want, but without evidence many of us remain unconvinced - even many of the faithful on the boards do not seem to agree with your conclusions. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24876 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Honstly Johnny, I think you got the basics for a very good Sci-Fi yarn. Why not attempt it? You never know, it make take off like JK Rowling's Harry Potter. |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
I honestly don't know what's wrong with you people here? What evidence, outside of the Bible, do you have to support your contention that Mary (if she existed) was a virgin? I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 3756 Credit: 1,999,735 RAC: 4 |
The Virgin Birth !! It's been a long time since that's been done well. |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
I honestly don't know what's wrong with you people here? There is no other evidence Bobby, But i will tell you one thing, its one hell of a coincidence that they "guessed" that IVF would be possible. Its an even bigger coincidence that they started the whole Bible by "guessing" that someone could "create" plants, animals and human beings. And 2,000 years later, here we are, we figured out how to genetically engineer plants and animals in laboratories by modifying an organism's DNA. Now that's what i call a "good guess". To me, its beyond coincidence! John. |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
I honestly don't know what's wrong with you people here? It's only a coincidence if you give credibility to your claims. I see no coincidence because I see no reason to believe that's what the Bible was referring to. |
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