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Message 1302669 - Posted: 5 Nov 2012, 23:42:18 UTC - in response to Message 1302664.

Well stated!
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Message 1302778 - Posted: 6 Nov 2012, 9:28:54 UTC
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I have no axe to grind against America, and I don't dislike them. In fact in the Western world I would say that China and the far east are probably more disliked than the USA or the UK. Also this project and these boards are supplied by Americans for our benefit, so it seems rather rude to bash their country just because some here don't like their politics.

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Message 1302779 - Posted: 6 Nov 2012, 9:45:40 UTC - in response to Message 1302778.
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I have no axe to grind against America, and I don't dislike them. In fact in the Western work I would say that China and the far east are probably more disliked than the USA or the UK. Also this project and these boards are supplied by Americans for our benefit, so it seems rather rude to bash their country just because some here don't like their politics.




BBC Mark Mardell, A Battle for America's Soul

When Barack Obama was elected, I lived in Belgium.

Something extraordinary happened around the corner from my home. A favourite local cafe hung out a stars and stripes.

Looking back from this land where houses, hats and hustings are always draped in the red, white and blue, that sounds commonplace. But it wasn't.

In my four years as the BBC's Europe editor, travelling to most of the 27 countries that make up the European Union and many outside it, I never saw the American flag displayed apart from at embassies or Kosovo, where Americans were indeed held in high esteem.

Elsewhere, many considered the US a rogue nation, a bully and a bigot, George W Bush the symbol of its excess.

The wave of sympathy that engulfed the world after 9/11 had drained away into the sand of Iraq.

The election of the country's first black president was seen as a moment of huge hope, holding the possibility of great change.


So it seems I'm not the only one to express these thoughts.

I have many American friends and a few relatives that have permanently moved there. And I recognise that they are a young country, but I do not understand why so many are so insular and inward looking. And why they refuse to learn from history, most of our history is common to them as well.

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Message 1302792 - Posted: 6 Nov 2012, 10:38:54 UTC

I agree WK.

We had the Kennedy era when one family virtually ran America, then we had the Bush gung ho years where if it moved you shot it. Now we have a divided nation that cannot see a way forward. The people are OK, they just have misguided leaders.



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Message 1302796 - Posted: 6 Nov 2012, 10:46:33 UTC - in response to Message 1302778.

I have no axe to grind against America, and I don't dislike them. In fact in the Western world I would say that China and the far east are probably more disliked than the USA or the UK. Also this project and these boards are supplied by Americans for our benefit, so it seems rather rude to bash their country just because some here don't like their politics.


You castigated me for being "stuck in the 30's/40's & fixated on war" (Which is totally incorrect btw), yet here you are, stating on an international public forum your dictatorial views.

Of course we have to respect the project & its rules, but that doesn't give them the right to act as dictators & I'm pretty sure the project admin would object to being labelled as such.

I believe it has been said often before on various threads: -

The world is getting over populated with its resources dwindling. Therefore there is only 3 options available & none of them are pleasant: -

War
Introduce "Logan's Run"
Re-enter Space & colonise another planet

If there's any better options out there, I can't see what they are!
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Message 1302844 - Posted: 6 Nov 2012, 14:47:11 UTC - in response to Message 1302664.

beginning to stray way off topic here.

Perhaps if someone stayed out of the US political topics there might be reciprocal behavior, too much to hope for I'm sure ...

The problem is that US politics just about affect everybody else on the planet, so expressing our views is probably legitimate as it might just modify your stance so that the US doesn't become the most disliked nation.

P.S. Thanks for taking this position away from us in the UK, it tended to make us paranoid.

Ah, typical continental thinking. My way or the Highway. Sounds just like American policy. Wonder where we got that idea?

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Message 1302856 - Posted: 6 Nov 2012, 15:29:34 UTC

I'm not one for increasing bureaucracy, but written consent by all concerned in cases like this would prevent a lot of time wasting in courtrooms......

Doctors issue unauthorised DNR orders

One way I suppose to free up ever dwindling beds!
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