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Message 1303342 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 0:20:56 UTC - in response to Message 1303263.  

I remember taking a train through kansas when I was quite young. Later on in life I asked a friend to take a picture of Kansas when they drove through.
She kept looking for something to take a picture of... then it occured to her there WASN'T anything.

Her words were... colorful. But apparently Kansas is still in black and white. ;)

Obviously, you take a picture of a grain silo, or a tractor...


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Message 1303358 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 1:09:12 UTC


Plenty of wind farms though in Kansas...


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Message 1303364 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 1:24:42 UTC

Black and white and flat ...

That's now in a minority according to US interviews on NewsNight ...
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Message 1303365 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 1:29:00 UTC - in response to Message 1303358.  


Plenty of wind farms though in Kansas...


Tehachapi California...

And this is just a small sample...

Near Palm Springs CA and this doesn't show very many either...
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Message 1303376 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 2:18:51 UTC
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There's a lot there alright...
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Message 1303378 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 2:26:31 UTC - in response to Message 1303376.  

There's a lot there alright...

There's even 1 giant wind turbine on the nearby Marine base in Barstow CA in sight of 2 smaller privately owned wind turbines.
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Message 1303383 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 2:44:55 UTC

I wonder if their all paying their way...

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Message 1303387 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 2:55:08 UTC - in response to Message 1303383.  

I wonder if their all paying their way...

Probably, Coal Power production doesn't exist anymore in CA cause of air pollution control laws, so We have either Natural gas or Nuclear or Wind or Solar or Solar-Thermal...
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Message 1303389 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 3:03:53 UTC - in response to Message 1303383.  

I wonder if their all paying their way...

Once they are up, they are relatively cheap to run. This assumes that there is sufficient average wind to turn them enough to pay off the loan to erect them in the first place. I have heard that the average wind speed required is something like 15 mph. There are some places on earth where the wind blows nearly constantly at 15 to 20 mph (some of the islands in the Caribean come to mind here).


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Message 1303418 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 5:01:30 UTC

It costs about the same to add 1 MW of wind as it does to add 1 MW of coal. The fueling costs on wind are non-existant though.

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Message 1303524 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 14:45:43 UTC

That turbine picture gives a great opportunity for an explosives expert to practice ...
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Many of these wind generators carry dielsel engine driven motors inside them,
John. Used when the wind is insufficient to turn the blades so the engine
is started up automatically to keep the blade rotating slowly to stop any
chance of getting bearing flats. So I wonder if this fire was caused by a fault
with the diesel engine.
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Many of these wind generators carry dielsel engine driven motors inside them,
John. Used when the wind is insufficient to turn the blades so the engine
is started up automatically to keep the blade rotating slowly to stop any
chance of getting bearing flats. So I wonder if this fire was caused by a fault
with the diesel engine.

I had seen this picture before and at that time the fire had been attributed to lubrication failure in the main bearings.
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Message 1303662 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 18:58:08 UTC

I work with an energy provider and we have a tariff formula for so called 'green' energy. It's much more expensive than a normal tariff formula. Most people think they really get clean energy for it but all they do is helping invest in clean energy. I think the company should be more clear on that matter towards their customers. Most of those people don't even know they get 'normal' energy!
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Message 1303696 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 20:13:16 UTC - in response to Message 1303654.  


Many of these wind generators carry dielsel engine driven motors inside them,
John. Used when the wind is insufficient to turn the blades so the engine
is started up automatically to keep the blade rotating slowly to stop any
chance of getting bearing flats. So I wonder if this fire was caused by a fault
with the diesel engine.


Yes the 2.5 and 3.0MW generators do. But how many loddy fires do you hear about? As long as the diesel coolant side if OK then fires are unlikely.

It does not mean this was not such a cause, but ...
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Message 1303881 - Posted: 9 Nov 2012, 6:16:27 UTC

They seem to be raising some strange livestock out around Milford, NE.

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Message 1303894 - Posted: 9 Nov 2012, 7:04:42 UTC - in response to Message 1303881.  

There's a few of those at the local 50's Diner, Peggy Sues...
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Message 1303961 - Posted: 9 Nov 2012, 12:18:28 UTC

What, dinosaurs in an eating house?
I bet they are not eating a mouse!
So, what do they consume?
Is it cadavers recently exhumed?
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Message 1303995 - Posted: 9 Nov 2012, 14:15:53 UTC
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Yeah, haven't you ever heard of Diner-Saur Park?
It's behind Peggy Sue's Diner in Yermo CA...

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