Raccoon Update XVI - All Are Welcome In the Critter Cafe

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John McLeod VII Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 22343 Credit: 439,209 RAC: 396	Message 1303342 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 0:20:56 UTC - in response to Message 1303263.
	I remember taking a train through kansas when I was quite young. Later on in life I asked a friend to take a picture of Kansas when they drove through. She kept looking for something to take a picture of... then it occured to her there WASN'T anything. Her words were... colorful. But apparently Kansas is still in black and white. ;) Obviously, you take a picture of a grain silo, or a tractor... ____________ BOINC WIKI
	ID: 1303342 ·

Nick Send message Joined: 11 Oct 11 Posts: 2687 Credit: 1,508,877 RAC: 1,135	Message 1303358 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 1:09:12 UTC
	Plenty of wind farms though in Kansas... ____________ The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes.
	ID: 1303358 ·

John Clark Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 29 Sep 99 Posts: 15838 Credit: 4,356,364 RAC: 74	Message 1303364 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 1:24:42 UTC
	Black and white and flat ... That's now in a minority according to US interviews on NewsNight ... ____________ It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues
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VBobier Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 40861 Credit: 32,163,254 RAC: 19,609	Message 1303365 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 1:29:00 UTC - in response to Message 1303358.
	Plenty of wind farms though in Kansas... Tehachapi California... And this is just a small sample... Near Palm Springs CA and this doesn't show very many either... ____________ BSG Anthem My Facebook page
	ID: 1303365 ·

Nick Send message Joined: 11 Oct 11 Posts: 2687 Credit: 1,508,877 RAC: 1,135	Message 1303376 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 2:18:51 UTC Last modified: 8 Nov 2012, 2:19:23 UTC
	There's a lot there alright... ____________ The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes.
	ID: 1303376 ·

VBobier Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 40861 Credit: 32,163,254 RAC: 19,609	Message 1303378 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 2:26:31 UTC - in response to Message 1303376.
	There's a lot there alright... There's even 1 giant wind turbine on the nearby Marine base in Barstow CA in sight of 2 smaller privately owned wind turbines. ____________ BSG Anthem My Facebook page
	ID: 1303378 ·

Nick Send message Joined: 11 Oct 11 Posts: 2687 Credit: 1,508,877 RAC: 1,135	Message 1303383 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 2:44:55 UTC
	I wonder if their all paying their way... ____________ The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes.
	ID: 1303383 ·

VBobier Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 40861 Credit: 32,163,254 RAC: 19,609	Message 1303387 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 2:55:08 UTC - in response to Message 1303383.
	I wonder if their all paying their way... Probably, Coal Power production doesn't exist anymore in CA cause of air pollution control laws, so We have either Natural gas or Nuclear or Wind or Solar or Solar-Thermal... ____________ BSG Anthem My Facebook page
	ID: 1303387 ·

John McLeod VII Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 22343 Credit: 439,209 RAC: 396	Message 1303389 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 3:03:53 UTC - in response to Message 1303383.
	I wonder if their all paying their way... Once they are up, they are relatively cheap to run. This assumes that there is sufficient average wind to turn them enough to pay off the loan to erect them in the first place. I have heard that the average wind speed required is something like 15 mph. There are some places on earth where the wind blows nearly constantly at 15 to 20 mph (some of the islands in the Caribean come to mind here). ____________ BOINC WIKI
	ID: 1303389 ·

soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6231 Credit: 27,521,346 RAC: 7,682	Message 1303418 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 5:01:30 UTC
	It costs about the same to add 1 MW of wind as it does to add 1 MW of coal. The fueling costs on wind are non-existant though. ____________ Janice
	ID: 1303418 ·

John Clark Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 29 Sep 99 Posts: 15838 Credit: 4,356,364 RAC: 74	Message 1303524 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 14:45:43 UTC
	That turbine picture gives a great opportunity for an explosives expert to practice ... ____________ It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues
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John Clark Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 29 Sep 99 Posts: 15838 Credit: 4,356,364 RAC: 74	Message 1303525 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 14:46:03 UTC Last modified: 8 Nov 2012, 14:49:06 UTC
	____________ It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues
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Nick Send message Joined: 11 Oct 11 Posts: 2687 Credit: 1,508,877 RAC: 1,135	Message 1303654 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 18:35:18 UTC - in response to Message 1303525. Last modified: 8 Nov 2012, 18:35:52 UTC
	Many of these wind generators carry dielsel engine driven motors inside them, John. Used when the wind is insufficient to turn the blades so the engine is started up automatically to keep the blade rotating slowly to stop any chance of getting bearing flats. So I wonder if this fire was caused by a fault with the diesel engine. ____________ The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes.
	ID: 1303654 ·

msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34239 Credit: 345,825,607 RAC: 551,850	Message 1303659 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 18:54:35 UTC - in response to Message 1303654.
	Many of these wind generators carry dielsel engine driven motors inside them, John. Used when the wind is insufficient to turn the blades so the engine is started up automatically to keep the blade rotating slowly to stop any chance of getting bearing flats. So I wonder if this fire was caused by a fault with the diesel engine. I had seen this picture before and at that time the fire had been attributed to lubrication failure in the main bearings. ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
	ID: 1303659 ·

Julie Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 8492 Credit: 1,411,002 RAC: 4,414	Message 1303662 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 18:58:08 UTC
	I work with an energy provider and we have a tariff formula for so called 'green' energy. It's much more expensive than a normal tariff formula. Most people think they really get clean energy for it but all they do is helping invest in clean energy. I think the company should be more clear on that matter towards their customers. Most of those people don't even know they get 'normal' energy! ____________
	ID: 1303662 ·

John Clark Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 29 Sep 99 Posts: 15838 Credit: 4,356,364 RAC: 74	Message 1303696 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 20:13:16 UTC - in response to Message 1303654.
	Many of these wind generators carry dielsel engine driven motors inside them, John. Used when the wind is insufficient to turn the blades so the engine is started up automatically to keep the blade rotating slowly to stop any chance of getting bearing flats. So I wonder if this fire was caused by a fault with the diesel engine. Yes the 2.5 and 3.0MW generators do. But how many loddy fires do you hear about? As long as the diesel coolant side if OK then fires are unlikely. It does not mean this was not such a cause, but ... ____________ It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues
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Scarecrow Send message Joined: 15 Jul 00 Posts: 4346 Credit: 416,129 RAC: 183	Message 1303881 - Posted: 9 Nov 2012, 6:16:27 UTC
	They seem to be raising some strange livestock out around Milford, NE.
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VBobier Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 40861 Credit: 32,163,254 RAC: 19,609	Message 1303894 - Posted: 9 Nov 2012, 7:04:42 UTC - in response to Message 1303881.
	There's a few of those at the local 50's Diner, Peggy Sues... ____________ BSG Anthem My Facebook page
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John Clark Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 29 Sep 99 Posts: 15838 Credit: 4,356,364 RAC: 74	Message 1303961 - Posted: 9 Nov 2012, 12:18:28 UTC
	What, dinosaurs in an eating house? I bet they are not eating a mouse! So, what do they consume? Is it cadavers recently exhumed? ____________ It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues
	ID: 1303961 ·

VBobier Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 40861 Credit: 32,163,254 RAC: 19,609	Message 1303995 - Posted: 9 Nov 2012, 14:15:53 UTC Last modified: 9 Nov 2012, 14:16:50 UTC
	Yeah, haven't you ever heard of Diner-Saur Park? It's behind Peggy Sue's Diner in Yermo CA... Las Vegas: Top 10 Sites to See When Driving There from SoCal ____________ BSG Anthem My Facebook page
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