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Message 1294565 - Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 3:43:22 UTC
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You tell me now.......
Has my posting in the last few hours been ban fodder, or have I been cool tooled?
I really wish an opinion from my peers.

You call it, have I been cool,
or have I been a tool?

I truly wish your opinion.

I thought I was watching my backside pretty well.
If not, I need to know this.
It's your playground after all.

Your call how the kitties are playing.
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Message 1294568 - Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 3:47:42 UTC - in response to Message 1294565.  

How would we know if we can't see your posts that are recently hidden?

I also don't understand why you insist on taking your issues with the Mods public instead of using the existing methods for working out your problems.

Your peers don't run this site. Berkeley does.
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Message 1294571 - Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 3:52:40 UTC - in response to Message 1294568.  

How would we know if we can't see your posts that are recently hidden?

I also don't understand why you insist on taking your issues with the Mods public instead of using the existing methods for working out your problems.

Your peers don't run this site. Berkeley does.

Nothing has been hidden so far. Just threatened to.
And I did escalate the issue to Fred.

My issues have always been publicized due to my notariety on these forums and my status here, so it was appropriate for me to ask my peers' perception at this time.
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Message 1294574 - Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 3:54:34 UTC
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The mods are not Berkeley,
They are us, our peers. The mods are other members of this community who volunteer to help keep it free from abuse. True he should ask the mod who hid his post, but I don't really think he is abusing anything asking for other opinions.

Correction, I do see some thing that I would consider going too far Mark. Glad you are taking it to Fred.
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Message 1294575 - Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 3:57:16 UTC - in response to Message 1294571.  
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How would we know if we can't see your posts that are recently hidden?

I also don't understand why you insist on taking your issues with the Mods public instead of using the existing methods for working out your problems.

Your peers don't run this site. Berkeley does.

Nothing has been hidden so far. Just threatened to.
And I did escalate the issue to Fred.

My issues have always been publicized due to my notariety on these forums and my status here, so it was appropriate for me to ask my peers' perception at this time.


FYI I am posting here because I am seeing others do so--you've asked questions-I hope you'll accept the answers given.

Your status is you are a cruncher like all of us and you have donated money. Many people crunch and donate money (and hardware for some) and don't resort to publicizing their concerns as you have.

Finally because you asked.....(and you did).....I'll call you even on both sides. I did see some posts that were hidden earlier in the day.


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Message 1294576 - Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 3:58:02 UTC - in response to Message 1294574.  

The mods are not Berkeley,
They are us, our peers. The mods are other members of this community who volunteer to help keep it free from abuse. True he should ask the mod who hid his post, but I don't really think he is abusing anything asking for other opinions. By the way, I can't see them either. So I have no opinion.

To make it clear, I am NOT asking about any single mod action.
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I was just trying to get a litmus test as to whether the folks I talk to here thought I was pushing the limits recently, or if I was treating them OK.

A single mod issue has been pushed to a higher court, that is not the issue I am talking about here, just my general bahaviour.

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Message 1294577 - Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 3:58:29 UTC - in response to Message 1294574.  

I didn't say he was abusing anything by asking, I just don't think the topic is worthy of discussion publicly due to the fact that we don't have all the information available, so asking us about what we may or may not be able to see seems like he's pleading with the public to add pressure on those he disagrees with.
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Message 1294578 - Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 3:59:29 UTC - in response to Message 1294575.  

I did see some posts that were hidden earlier in the day.


Ah, so the truth comes out. We don't have all the information, only his word against theirs, and they're not allowed to speak up.
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Message 1294580 - Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 4:01:00 UTC - in response to Message 1294571.  

My issues have always been publicized due to my notariety on these forums and my status here, so it was appropriate for me to ask my peers' perception at this time.


What does this even mean? What exactly is your notoriety and status, and why does it merit public attention more than anyone else?
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Message 1294581 - Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 4:01:27 UTC - in response to Message 1294577.  

I didn't say he was abusing anything by asking, I just don't think the topic is worthy of discussion publicly due to the fact that we don't have all the information available, so asking us about what we may or may not be able to see seems like he's pleading with the public to add pressure on those he disagrees with.

I am asking your opinion. Based upon whatever facts you have available, and whatever mental facilities you have on board at this time. If that is too much to ask, just say so, and your opinion with be blanked.
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Message 1294582 - Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 4:02:46 UTC - in response to Message 1294581.  

I didn't say he was abusing anything by asking, I just don't think the topic is worthy of discussion publicly due to the fact that we don't have all the information available, so asking us about what we may or may not be able to see seems like he's pleading with the public to add pressure on those he disagrees with.

I am asking your opinion. Based upon whatever facts you have available, and whatever mental facilities you have on board at this time. If that is too much to ask, just say so, and your opinion with be blanked.


And I stated, how are we able to come to a conclusion without all the facts? One person here seems to think you have had posts hidden already that should have been hidden. Is that fact? If so, then that is different than what you said earlier.
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Message 1294584 - Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 4:04:09 UTC - in response to Message 1294580.  

My issues have always been publicized due to my notariety on these forums and my status here, so it was appropriate for me to ask my peers' perception at this time.


What does this even mean? What exactly is your notoriety and status, and why does it merit public attention more than anyone else?

Well, that depends upon your perception of my notoriety and status.
Simple perusal of the past will tell you the regard the kittyman has had in the past. This is a thing of legend, not of my own making.
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Message 1294585 - Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 4:06:51 UTC - in response to Message 1294582.  

I didn't say he was abusing anything by asking, I just don't think the topic is worthy of discussion publicly due to the fact that we don't have all the information available, so asking us about what we may or may not be able to see seems like he's pleading with the public to add pressure on those he disagrees with.

I am asking your opinion. Based upon whatever facts you have available, and whatever mental facilities you have on board at this time. If that is too much to ask, just say so, and your opinion with be blanked.


And I stated, how are we able to come to a conclusion without all the facts? One person here seems to think you have had posts hidden already that should have been hidden. Is that fact? If so, then that is different than what you said earlier.

I happen to think that more than what are relevant posts have been hidden.
That is not what I asked of you. Just your opinion, which it seems you have copiously offered. Thank you.
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Message 1294586 - Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 4:09:11 UTC - in response to Message 1294584.  

My issues have always been publicized due to my notariety on these forums and my status here, so it was appropriate for me to ask my peers' perception at this time.


What does this even mean? What exactly is your notoriety and status, and why does it merit public attention more than anyone else?

Well, that depends upon your perception of my notoriety and status.
Simple perusal of the past will tell you the regard the kittyman has had in the past. This is a thing of legend, not of my own making.


I've been here with you all along. This sounds far more like ego than legend.
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Message 1294589 - Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 4:10:23 UTC

I know when I am being trolled.......

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Message 1294590 - Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 4:10:33 UTC - in response to Message 1294585.  

I didn't say he was abusing anything by asking, I just don't think the topic is worthy of discussion publicly due to the fact that we don't have all the information available, so asking us about what we may or may not be able to see seems like he's pleading with the public to add pressure on those he disagrees with.

I am asking your opinion. Based upon whatever facts you have available, and whatever mental facilities you have on board at this time. If that is too much to ask, just say so, and your opinion with be blanked.


And I stated, how are we able to come to a conclusion without all the facts? One person here seems to think you have had posts hidden already that should have been hidden. Is that fact? If so, then that is different than what you said earlier.

I happen to think that more than what are relevant posts have been hidden.
That is not what I asked of you. Just your opinion, which it seems you have copiously offered. Thank you.


So if they are hidden, how can we tell you if you've been out of line?
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Message 1294591 - Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 4:11:14 UTC - in response to Message 1294589.  

I know when I am being trolled.......


Yes, because anyone who tries to understand a situation, per your request is obviously a troll.
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Message 1294592 - Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 4:11:19 UTC

I am sorry but I don't think posts like this are necessary. If you have an issue with the mods it does not involve the rest of us. There is a process to address them. The process is to send it to Fred and let Fred deal with it.

All it does is disrupt the forum and lead to more bans for you.


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Message 1294626 - Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 6:00:51 UTC

I believe you have too much of your self worth wrapped up in this.

I do not fight fascists because I think I can win.
I fight them because they are fascists.
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Message 1294628 - Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 6:21:49 UTC - in response to Message 1294592.  

I am sorry but I don't think posts like this are necessary. If you have an issue with the mods it does not involve the rest of us. There is a process to address them. The process is to send it to Fred and let Fred deal with it.

All it does is disrupt the forum and lead to more bans for you.

Agreed Blurf.
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