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Message 1353629 - Posted: 5 Apr 2013, 13:21:12 UTC

I think that a lot of it is to do with getting your baby an "upmarket" or dual nationality birth certificate. The easy way around that is to say that if both your parents are Chinese, and you were conceived in China, but just "happened" to be, or were "deliberately" born in the USA, then you get a Chinese birth certificate regardless. All this stuff about where you were physically born taking precedence is just rubbish, when it is demonstrably clear that people are abusing the system.

But at the same time, you can understand the thoughts of an Eastern European mother to be, who obviously wants the best possible care for her and the baby, for the birth, and knows it will be significantly safer in the UK than at home. But their country must be made to pay for it, NOT the British tax payer. The UK has been too much of a soft touch for far too long, and it has to stop.

Perhaps this is the price we are paying for having a free and caring western democratic society. At what point does the price become to much to pay?

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Message 1353643 - Posted: 5 Apr 2013, 13:50:29 UTC

Petrol sales

Forecourt sales of petrol have plunged by more than 20% in five years, the AA has said.

Well of course they have. We are in a world recession, and a UK double dip one, therefore the days have gone when motorists visited a petrol station and just filled up regardless. People decide how much money they can afford to pay per week for fuel, usually in multiples of £5, and that is what they put in their tank. As the price of petrol goes up they get less for their money, so they drive fewer miles, and alter their lifestyles accordingly.

Petrol stations see decreasing profits so they put the price up, people still don't pay any more, so the price goes up again. A continuing downward spiral. It is no wonder that hybrid electrical cars are becoming so popular. Until of course the price of electricity goes up to the point where people will simply charge them up less. People can't spend what they don't have. Simple economic fact.



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Message 1353646 - Posted: 5 Apr 2013, 13:53:22 UTC

Perhaps this is the price we are paying for having a free and caring western democratic society. At what point does the price become to much to pay?

I suspect Chris we hit that point some years ago.

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Message 1353682 - Posted: 5 Apr 2013, 15:16:58 UTC - in response to Message 1353629.

My Chris. Sounding positively Tea Party "get off my lawn" here.

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Message 1353685 - Posted: 5 Apr 2013, 15:19:43 UTC - in response to Message 1353643.

People can't spend what they don't have. Simple economic fact.

Yes they can. It is called inflation.

Governments do it by speeding up the printing press.

Individuals do it by living on credit.

Same thing. Redistribution of wealth.

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Message 1353702 - Posted: 5 Apr 2013, 15:40:00 UTC - in response to Message 1353685.

People can't spend what they don't have. Simple economic fact.

Yes they can. It is called inflation.

Individuals do it by living on credit.

Same thing. Redistribution of wealth.

But only as long as the credit is still extended to them or that they can pay
for the credit they use. Times comes when the credit tap gets turned off and
they end up not being able to spend what they don't have.

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Message 1353721 - Posted: 5 Apr 2013, 16:12:43 UTC - in response to Message 1353643.

Petrol sales

Forecourt sales of petrol have plunged by more than 20% in five years, the AA has said.



..with an overall reduction in fuel sales of 9% when diesel sales are taken into
consideration too. So the 20% does not look as bad as it does yet even this
total 9% reduction equates to a very big drop in government tax revenues.
To combat this then our government will be happy to see fuel prices rise
accordingly enabling them to recoup this tax loss due to the price rise.
The UK economy should be experiencing deflation or at least stagflation. But
it is not, primarily due to profiteering by those institutions who have most
effect upon the index so used to calculate inflation/deflation. Namely, the
power industry, the fuel industry and the food-outlet industry. All have been
pushing prices higher even though their costs have been falling. I give you an
example of what I mean...... My favourite brand of biscuits have seen their
price rise from 30p a pack to 45p a pack in little under a year, that's an
increase of 50%. My cheapie tea bags have gone from 27p a box to 35p a box in
just under one month, that's an increase of nearly 33%. Fuel has been rising
consistently even though world prices have been falling, energy prices like gas
have consistently been rising even though world prices have been falling.
It is unheard off that during a recession or what we really have today, a
depression, that prices for basic consumer commodities goes up. So something
has to give and this will be when the average consumer can no longer afford
the price rises so cuts back severely. Yup, sometime in the not too distant
future, chronic deflation will set in, and do you know that deflation is far
more ruinous to an economy than inflation is. In an inflationary environment
businesses still produce. But in a deflationary environment no one wishes to
produce because the price tomorrow will be less than the prices today so why
produce if you know your going to loose money.


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Message 1353766 - Posted: 5 Apr 2013, 17:10:12 UTC
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Yesterday, when I fuelled the car, the person before had put £15 worth of petrol in their tank. If money is that tight, it makes me wonder in 2 directions -

(a) Can they actually afford to run a car;

(b) If money is that tight, have they paid their Road Tax, their motoring Insurance or are they one of the UK's many accidents ready to happen without insurance cover?

(c) When they do full up properly, are they likely to be a "BILKER".
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Message 1353769 - Posted: 5 Apr 2013, 17:14:56 UTC - in response to Message 1353702.

But only as long as the credit is still extended to them or that they can pay for the credit they use. Times comes when the credit tap gets turned off and they end up not being able to spend what they don't have.

Didn't you hear, repayment of debt is bad for the economy, so the followers of John Maynard Keynes had it outlawed.

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Message 1353800 - Posted: 5 Apr 2013, 18:18:59 UTC - in response to Message 1353769.

But only as long as the credit is still extended to them or that they can pay for the credit they use. Times comes when the credit tap gets turned off and they end up not being able to spend what they don't have.

Didn't you hear, repayment of debt is bad for the economy, so the followers of John Maynard Keynes had it outlawed.

Outlawed in principle by governments as long as their economy grew so the
debt effectively shrank. But that did not include the general populous, no one
takes a government to court when in debt but they do to their citizens though.


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Message 1353813 - Posted: 5 Apr 2013, 18:26:55 UTC

Confirmation that our "glorious leaders" are continuing to teach us their favourite mantra "mind over matter".....

Osborne ignores parking regulations because he was hungry

...."We don't mind, & you don't matter"!
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Message 1353862 - Posted: 5 Apr 2013, 20:50:08 UTC

Proof that the youth of today are not all rioters & yobbos.....

...it also proves that should they be given the opportunities they need, they will be able to take the country upwards & onwards....

Teenager builds his own DNA machine to resolve a family issue....& succeeds
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Message 1353864 - Posted: 5 Apr 2013, 21:00:26 UTC - in response to Message 1353813.

Confirmation that our "glorious leaders" are continuing to teach us their favourite mantra "mind over matter".....

Osborne ignores parking regulations because he was hungry

...."We don't mind, & you don't matter"!

Yes he has been a bit of a naughty boy here but I do suspect that many of us
wont be much disturbed by this. For the truth is, that most who qualify to use
these reserved parking spaces don't actually need them to be that close to the
outlet that they are visiting. See them at the supermarket, users limp out
from their vehicles then spend an hour or two gamely walking the isles doing
their shopping. Shop for two hours means you more than capable of walking the
extra 30 or 40 yards out into the main car park like the rest of us have to do.


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Message 1353870 - Posted: 5 Apr 2013, 21:28:43 UTC

Just had to slip this one in here......LOL

Text speak not so new after all...

"Lots of Love Del-boy".....ROFLMAO
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Message 1353876 - Posted: 5 Apr 2013, 22:02:00 UTC - in response to Message 1353800.

But that did not include the general populous, no one takes a government to court when in debt but they do to their citizens though.

You know how to squeeze blood from turnips?

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Message 1354133 - Posted: 6 Apr 2013, 17:16:04 UTC
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...it also proves that should they be given the opportunities they need, they will be able to take the country upwards & onwards....

I will support that view.

I am also pleased to report that a famous British carpet brand has been saved.

Axminster Carpets.

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I have had a guided tour around the factory and also been to the nearby factory outlet. First class news.

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Message 1354190 - Posted: 6 Apr 2013, 21:31:57 UTC - in response to Message 1353876.

But that did not include the general populous, no one takes a government to court when in debt but they do to their citizens though.

You know how to squeeze blood from turnips?

No, but I've seen plenty of blood squeezed out of humans, where debt is concerned.


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Message 1354324 - Posted: 7 Apr 2013, 9:38:31 UTC

A few days ago I supported the appointment of a young girl to be the first Youth PCC. I did so on the basis that it was an initiative that was at least worth trying. I still think that is the case, but if the allegations in this report are correct, then clearly the wrong person was given the job, and should be dismissed.

Youth PCC

Apart from a gullible Chief PCC being led up the garden path, it's the underlying inference here that is the most worrying thing of all. The girl was given the job because she convinced people that she could talk and interact with other youngsters at their own level. If they are all like her then probably we are just wasting our time anyway.

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Message 1354366 - Posted: 7 Apr 2013, 10:45:17 UTC - in response to Message 1354324.

A few days ago I supported the appointment of a young girl to be the first Youth PCC. I did so on the basis that it was an initiative that was at least worth trying. I still think that is the case, but if the allegations in this report are correct, then clearly the wrong person was given the job, and should be dismissed.

Youth PCC

Apart from a gullible Chief PCC being led up the garden path, it's the underlying inference here that is the most worrying thing of all. The girl was given the job because she convinced people that she could talk and interact with other youngsters at their own level. If they are all like her then probably we are just wasting our time anyway.


Perhaps the question should be, why did no one check her twitter or facebook account before giving her a public job. Sorry but if you have anyone in the public eye the press/media obviously try and find out all the dirt they can, it's the way they operate.
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Message 1354437 - Posted: 7 Apr 2013, 17:22:20 UTC - in response to Message 1354366.

A few days ago I supported the appointment of a young girl to be the first Youth PCC. I did so on the basis that it was an initiative that was at least worth trying. I still think that is the case, but if the allegations in this report are correct, then clearly the wrong person was given the job, and should be dismissed.

Youth PCC

Apart from a gullible Chief PCC being led up the garden path, it's the underlying inference here that is the most worrying thing of all. The girl was given the job because she convinced people that she could talk and interact with other youngsters at their own level. If they are all like her then probably we are just wasting our time anyway.


Perhaps the question should be, why did no one check her twitter or facebook account before giving her a public job. Sorry but if you have anyone in the public eye the press/media obviously try and find out all the dirt they can, it's the way they operate.

Here in the states a lot of employers will check the social networks. And then the young folks wonder why they dont get that coveted job when they have pics of them half naked smoking a joint and saying that the boss at McDonalds sucks big time.
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