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I think that a lot of it is to do with getting your baby an "upmarket" or dual nationality birth certificate. The easy way around that is to say that if both your parents are Chinese, and you were conceived in China, but just "happened" to be, or were "deliberately" born in the USA, then you get a Chinese birth certificate regardless. All this stuff about where you were physically born taking precedence is just rubbish, when it is demonstrably clear that people are abusing the system. | |
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Forecourt sales of petrol have plunged by more than 20% in five years, the AA has said. Well of course they have. We are in a world recession, and a UK double dip one, therefore the days have gone when motorists visited a petrol station and just filled up regardless. People decide how much money they can afford to pay per week for fuel, usually in multiples of £5, and that is what they put in their tank. As the price of petrol goes up they get less for their money, so they drive fewer miles, and alter their lifestyles accordingly. Petrol stations see decreasing profits so they put the price up, people still don't pay any more, so the price goes up again. A continuing downward spiral. It is no wonder that hybrid electrical cars are becoming so popular. Until of course the price of electricity goes up to the point where people will simply charge them up less. People can't spend what they don't have. Simple economic fact. | |
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Perhaps this is the price we are paying for having a free and caring western democratic society. At what point does the price become to much to pay? I suspect Chris we hit that point some years ago. ____________ The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. | |
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 Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester  Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 13695 Credit: 9,087,726 RAC: 14,795 
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My Chris. Sounding positively Tea Party "get off my lawn" here. | |
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Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 13695 Credit: 9,087,726 RAC: 14,795
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People can't spend what they don't have. Simple economic fact. Yes they can. It is called inflation. Governments do it by speeding up the printing press. Individuals do it by living on credit. Same thing. Redistribution of wealth. ____________   | |
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People can't spend what they don't have. Simple economic fact. But only as long as the credit is still extended to them or that they can pay for the credit they use. Times comes when the credit tap gets turned off and they end up not being able to spend what they don't have. ____________ The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. | |
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Petrol sales ..with an overall reduction in fuel sales of 9% when diesel sales are taken into consideration too. So the 20% does not look as bad as it does yet even this total 9% reduction equates to a very big drop in government tax revenues. To combat this then our government will be happy to see fuel prices rise accordingly enabling them to recoup this tax loss due to the price rise. The UK economy should be experiencing deflation or at least stagflation. But it is not, primarily due to profiteering by those institutions who have most effect upon the index so used to calculate inflation/deflation. Namely, the power industry, the fuel industry and the food-outlet industry. All have been pushing prices higher even though their costs have been falling. I give you an example of what I mean...... My favourite brand of biscuits have seen their price rise from 30p a pack to 45p a pack in little under a year, that's an increase of 50%. My cheapie tea bags have gone from 27p a box to 35p a box in just under one month, that's an increase of nearly 33%. Fuel has been rising consistently even though world prices have been falling, energy prices like gas have consistently been rising even though world prices have been falling. It is unheard off that during a recession or what we really have today, a depression, that prices for basic consumer commodities goes up. So something has to give and this will be when the average consumer can no longer afford the price rises so cuts back severely. Yup, sometime in the not too distant future, chronic deflation will set in, and do you know that deflation is far more ruinous to an economy than inflation is. In an inflationary environment businesses still produce. But in a deflationary environment no one wishes to produce because the price tomorrow will be less than the prices today so why produce if you know your going to loose money. ____________ The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. | |
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Yesterday, when I fuelled the car, the person before had put £15 worth of petrol in their tank. If money is that tight, it makes me wonder in 2 directions - | |
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Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 13695 Credit: 9,087,726 RAC: 14,795
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But only as long as the credit is still extended to them or that they can pay for the credit they use. Times comes when the credit tap gets turned off and they end up not being able to spend what they don't have. Didn't you hear, repayment of debt is bad for the economy, so the followers of John Maynard Keynes had it outlawed. ____________ | |
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But only as long as the credit is still extended to them or that they can pay for the credit they use. Times comes when the credit tap gets turned off and they end up not being able to spend what they don't have. Outlawed in principle by governments as long as their economy grew so the debt effectively shrank. But that did not include the general populous, no one takes a government to court when in debt but they do to their citizens though. ____________ The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. | |
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Confirmation that our "glorious leaders" are continuing to teach us their favourite mantra "mind over matter"..... | |
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Proof that the youth of today are not all rioters & yobbos..... | |
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Confirmation that our "glorious leaders" are continuing to teach us their favourite mantra "mind over matter"..... Yes he has been a bit of a naughty boy here but I do suspect that many of us wont be much disturbed by this. For the truth is, that most who qualify to use these reserved parking spaces don't actually need them to be that close to the outlet that they are visiting. See them at the supermarket, users limp out from their vehicles then spend an hour or two gamely walking the isles doing their shopping. Shop for two hours means you more than capable of walking the extra 30 or 40 yards out into the main car park like the rest of us have to do. ____________ The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. | |
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Just had to slip this one in here......LOL | |
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Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 13695 Credit: 9,087,726 RAC: 14,795
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But that did not include the general populous, no one takes a government to court when in debt but they do to their citizens though. You know how to squeeze blood from turnips? ____________ | |
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...it also proves that should they be given the opportunities they need, they will be able to take the country upwards & onwards.... I will support that view. I am also pleased to report that a famous British carpet brand has been saved. Axminster Carpets. Latest I have had a guided tour around the factory and also been to the nearby factory outlet. First class news. | |
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But that did not include the general populous, no one takes a government to court when in debt but they do to their citizens though. No, but I've seen plenty of blood squeezed out of humans, where debt is concerned. ____________ The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. | |
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A few days ago I supported the appointment of a young girl to be the first Youth PCC. I did so on the basis that it was an initiative that was at least worth trying. I still think that is the case, but if the allegations in this report are correct, then clearly the wrong person was given the job, and should be dismissed. | |
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Bernie Vine Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester  Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 7377 Credit: 31,468,707 RAC: 31,254 
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A few days ago I supported the appointment of a young girl to be the first Youth PCC. I did so on the basis that it was an initiative that was at least worth trying. I still think that is the case, but if the allegations in this report are correct, then clearly the wrong person was given the job, and should be dismissed. Perhaps the question should be, why did no one check her twitter or facebook account before giving her a public job. Sorry but if you have anyone in the public eye the press/media obviously try and find out all the dirt they can, it's the way they operate. ____________ Sometimes it is the people no one imagines anything of who do the things that no one can imagine. | |
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A few days ago I supported the appointment of a young girl to be the first Youth PCC. I did so on the basis that it was an initiative that was at least worth trying. I still think that is the case, but if the allegations in this report are correct, then clearly the wrong person was given the job, and should be dismissed. Here in the states a lot of employers will check the social networks. And then the young folks wonder why they dont get that coveted job when they have pics of them half naked smoking a joint and saying that the boss at McDonalds sucks big time. ____________  Old James | |
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