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We dont have a master list of voters. Each county in the State has a voting list. They still carry my daugter even though she has registerd in Colorado to vote. Whats to stop her from voting here and in Colorado. See thats the problem in the US. Dont even mention Chigago. More dead people vote there than anywhere else in the US. | |
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I think that is the requirement in the States John. many years ago in the UK you were "supposed" to carry your drivers licence and insurance certificate with you at all times. If you got stopped and couldn't produce them, you were given a pink slip to present them at your nearest police station with 3 days. These days with police vehicles having on-line access, they can tell immediately whether the vehicle is taxed, MOT'd, and insured. Upon any form of ID from the driver they will know whether or not he has a valid drivers licence. | |
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Chris is correct, but the election card is not mandatory when voting, at least not here ... Yes, you can turn up at your polling station and give a name and postcode, and get given a polling card. But then that name is recorded as having voted. If someone later turns up with an official voting card in the same name, they are not allowed to vote, and the original one is classed as null and void, and the police are informed. There are very very few instances of this. What is wide open to abuse is the postal voting system, and that is being closely looked at as we speak. | |
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That sounds like too simple of a solution for the US. ;-) Just send every registered voter a card to use for their vote. I like it. Thing is here they don't want it that simple, there is a deeper agenda behind our newfound restrictive voting rules (which seem to be being proposed only in swing states, imagine that). ____________ -Dave #2 | |
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(which seem to be being proposed only in swing states, imagine that). You mean they haven't yet divided it into swing blocks in swing precincts in swing counties in swing states? You know they will soon enough. After all, the rest if a foregone conclusion, only where it isn't does it matter. Data analysis is the new power. ____________ | |
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As long as we dont have a natioanl registry voter fraud will be prevalent. And the evidence for this accusation is? (hint: virtually non-existent) ____________ I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... | |
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As long as we dont have a natioanl registry voter fraud will be prevalent. compared to the desire to eliminate 100's of thousands from voting by the poll tax that Conservatives once again tried to push through, I'm willing to say 10 cheaters is not a conspiracy in 110 million votes let alone a precinct ____________ Proud member of TSWB. End terrorism by building a school | |
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As long as we dont have a natioanl registry voter fraud will be prevalent. How big or small is the problem, any figures available? ____________ The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. | |
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As long as we dont have a natioanl registry voter fraud will be prevalent. If there were figures available then the people would be kicked off the rolls. Historically in some areas, e.g. Chicago, it has been more than enough to tip an election. However the real fraud today is in the vote by mail route. Register on the Internet and no one sees you. Get an absentee ballot and mail it back. How many times can you vote that way? A whole bunch. America needs to face up to this and deal with it and uniformly. ____________ | |
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However the real fraud today is in the vote by mail route. Register on the Internet and no one sees you. Get an absentee ballot and mail it back. How many times can you vote that way? A whole bunch. America needs to face up to this and deal with it and uniformly. Exactly the same as it is here across the pond, as stated by Chris in an earlier post. ____________ The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. | |
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As long as we dont have a natioanl registry voter fraud will be prevalent. even registering online you'd have to have a valid address and eventually prove that you actually live somewhere. They know when you provide a false address. Also multiple registrations at 1 single family address sends up red flags which causes the elections folks to send out mailers to determine residency. Also changes in drivers license addresses gets you a mailer. How do I know? I got a mailer. I had to check that yes I had moved to this address from the previous one in this county. I think that you think its pretty easy to fool the system or even game it. It is very hard to get a fake voter registration without some form of residency documentation. and the penalty for having a fake voters card is harsh enough to deter anyone from really wanting to try. ____________ Proud member of TSWB. End terrorism by building a school | |
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So this thanksgiving day, is the President going to pardon big bird?? | |
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So this thanksgiving day, is the President going to pardon big bird?? From what I seen the bird is so happy he can't stand it. I guess crow is on order. | |
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even registering online you'd have to have a valid address and eventually prove that you actually live somewhere. They know when you provide a false address. Also multiple registrations at 1 single family address sends up red flags which causes the elections folks to send out mailers to determine residency. Also changes in drivers license addresses gets you a mailer. How do I know? I got a mailer. I had to check that yes I had moved to this address from the previous one in this county. I think that you think its pretty easy to fool the system or even game it. It is very hard to get a fake voter registration without some form of residency documentation. and the penalty for having a fake voters card is harsh enough to deter anyone from really wanting to try. Skil, do not think for one moment that how your county handles it is the same as every county in the USA. Many are so damn broke they can't even afford to do the computer cross checks. And any mailing list company can deliver matching names and addresses. Then a purge of already registered voters. Submit the rest. Might be an issue to send all the absentee ballots to one address. If yo really want to do this and have the $$$ behind it, not an issue. ____________ | |
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you make the effort sound like a person going through all the names and addresses by hand. This is the 21st century. We have a things called computers. Computers have the ability to run complex programs and spit the data requested in miliseconds instead of weeks or months that a single person might take to examine the same data set. Or did you already know that about computers? | |
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We have these things called laws. Somehow they don't seem to get updated very often. They frequently require the then state of the art procedure. And of course each step has to be verified by an observer from each political party. | |
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how depressingly pessimistic. IF I were you, and I'm not, I'd make a run over to the county seat and ask the questions you want to the actual people that run the office. I'm betting that most if not all of the data isn't first processed by computer and then read by humans to confirm the info. | |
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how depressingly pessimistic. IF I were you, and I'm not, I'd make a run over to the county seat and ask the questions you want to the actual people that run the office. I'm betting that most if not all of the data isn't first processed by computer and then read by humans to confirm the info. There are 58 county seats in California. I know in Los Angeles it will be by computer. I seriously doubt it is in Inyo county, last I heard the county seat could only get a single 384K DSL line for the entire county government to share. Nationally I am sure the same applies in many places. In any case there has to be $$$ in the budget to hire someone to set up a database search and computers to run it on. As tax revenue has plunged at the county property tax level this might be one of the first things to be cut. But, remember in Florida that one party went to court to prevent a list of registered voters from being cross checked and purged. It isn't that simple, and I wish it was. ____________ | |
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