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Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
like the rape pillaging and genocide that occurred in the name of god. Sounds shockingly familar to modern times. It seems the more things change the more they stay the same You can add incest, sodomy, and rule by fear and intimidation to the content. God creating horrific acts ... Considering this and several of your other posts, you are not just mentioning, you are saying The Bible says many horrific things are ok. Horrific things are indeed described in The Bible. Some, for lack of a better way of putting it, seem to be "horrific at the moment for the overall purpose of driving toward some good". Rather Machiavellian, now that I think about it. In any case, I am sure you'll find things condemned in The Bible that you also condemn. |
SciManStev Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 6652 Credit: 121,090,076 RAC: 0 |
My actual intent was not to say they were OK, or not. Just very intense stories, that don't all line up with the common view of what it said about the Bible. I apologize if my wording was not precise enough. To me the roots of both the old and new testament are highly questionable, as well as the information contained in them. I do find it strange that a book with so many different versions, or any of the other religious defining books can be taken so seriously given what we know today. Some of the stories may be based on events, and others manufactured to get a particular persons view across. Observation and mathmatics provide a testable, and correctable path. Religions are not supposed to evolve, but of course they have ever since they were invented. One thing I have said before is that there is no mechanism to keep people on a particular message. Hence tens of thousands of different versions of just Christianity. Steve Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website |
musicplayer Send message Joined: 17 May 10 Posts: 2430 Credit: 926,046 RAC: 0 |
I was wondering a little about what is the more important or most important thing when it comes to science as a whole? Both astronomy, evolution and religion could be viewed as scientific fields, all of them warranting a scientific study. Knowledge is based on known facts about given subjects and we are able to obtain such facts by means of knowledge as it is being learnt. Because more information is obtained all the time in all these three subject field, we are seeing an evolutionary trend where our understanding or comprehension regarding certain things either quickly change in certain areas, more slowly when it comes to our comprehension of religion, perhaps. Astronomy depends on the subject fields of mathematics and physics. Physics are dealing with everything from the largest to the smallest as well as those things in between (like time) which for some reason is hard for us to comprehend. We are using the subject field of mathematics as well as the the other mentioned fields as well in order to put everything we know into scale and context and trying to both explain as well as understand everything we are dealing with within these subject fields. Also we are attempting to merge three fundamental laws which are dealing with matter and particles into a fourth one which is dealing with energy. But gravity has always been associated with mass, not energy and time has been shown to come to a standstill at the point where mass is known to be having its largest concentration in the smallest area of space, namely the singularity. If we were able to find other civilizations in the Milky Way or Universe, such achivements will not necessary explain or give us a solution about whether everything we know do exist when it comes to stars, galaxies and clusters of galaxies is having a divine creator. Religion alone is not supposed to give us an explanation regarding such a possible fact. |
Misfit Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0 |
JG, your librarian is here. me@rescam.org |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
JG, your librarian is here. Misfit, Your a man of few words! It took me a while to decode your message. My "librarian" as you put it, has always been here. He never left, and thats not him in the article. John. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30639 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
It's a couple of booster rockets falling. It is a high altitude balloon. It is a single semi-transparent cylindrical object, the bright areas are sunlight reflecting off the sides. |
Terror Australis Send message Joined: 14 Feb 04 Posts: 1817 Credit: 262,693,308 RAC: 44 |
I read the bible many years ago, I liked the old testament, there's some pretty racy stuff in there. It reminded me of the "Mandingo" series of books, or other historical novels that cover multiple generations of the same family. In the new testament, the first four books were interesting and Revelations is cool but in the other books Paul just drones on like an old professor teaching a philosophy class. A quote I heard many years ago, "The god of the old testament is the devil of the new." If I found out that ET wrote the bible I'd be severely cheesed off. It would mean that the thousands of dollars I've spent building and running computers to crunch numbers for SAH would have been totally wasted. T.A. |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
I read the bible many years ago, I liked the old testament, there's some pretty racy stuff in there. It reminded me of the "Mandingo" series of books, or other historical novels that cover multiple generations of the same family. In the new testament, the first four books were interesting and Revelations is cool but in the other books Paul just drones on like an old professor teaching a philosophy class. Terror Australis, That was a refreshing and interesting message to read! Its interesting that you spoke without attacking the book. Being completely truthful with you, i have great difficulty reading any of the Bible stories. Some of them are absolutely horrific, and completely turn me off reading any more of it. Like you say, some of the stories are so boring, they put me to sleep. But then other stories, like the book of revelation, i'm after reading it multiple times in an attempt to extract the proper meaning from the book. All in all, i find the Bible very difficult to read, and i avoid it at all cost. But the prophesy needs to be decoded and extracted. For this i found a preacher on Youtube that extracts the meaning from the prophesy sections. Its not that i believe his interpretation, its just that he has a photographic memory and it allows him to extract the true meaning. Then i stack my own scientific interpretation on top of his religious interpretation to get an end result. On the topic of SETI. I really don't care how we get to the end result of contacting ET. If it has to be done through reading the Bible, then i will do whatever i have to do. John. |
Bob DeWoody Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10 |
Would you start reading the Bible? What he said!! Btw, I have read the Bible at least a couple of times from cover to cover. Now if everyone who claims to be a Christian would at least try to behave like one things might actually get better. Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19048 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
But you could get the same effect from studying virtually any religion. How about Buddism, Buddhist don't have to believe in God(s). |
Bob DeWoody Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10 |
If it weren't for my Christian upbringing and overall western background I could easily be a follower of Buddism. Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. |
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