If ET wrote the Bible, would u read it?

Oh fer hecks sake, of course it is not going to happen! Only religious nuts believe in that sort of stuff. "It will happen because god told me so". No he didn't, just because you read something in a book that is what you want to believe, you have convinced yourself it is true. But you are too prone to exaggeration and emotional rhetoric to try to get your point across to others.

If you feel it is your mission in life to educate and convert the world, why are you wasting your time here at Seti? Go on a lecture tour somewhere.

Do you think its not going to happen? Is that it?

You can get the ingredients of another "Jesus" just by random circumstance. No Divine Intervention or inventions needed.

Does that count as being "born again"?

There are ideas and passions that transcend mere cloned bodies. More significant is what whatever body does. And then also, ideas can have a body and will of their own if known by (enough) people to be exercised and given life...


Keep searchin',
Martin

(Apologies for the backwards ID pun... Ouch! :-) )

Oh fer hecks sake, of course it is not going to happen! Only religious nuts believe in that sort of stuff. "It will happen because god told me so". No he didn't, just because you read something in a book that is what you want to believe, you have convinced yourself it is true. But you are too prone to exaggeration and emotional rhetoric to try to get your point across to others.

If you feel it is your mission in life to educate and convert the world, why are you wasting your time here at Seti? Go on a lecture tour somewhere.

... There was one Jesus, and only one Jesus. You will never ever ever randomly get the same "Jesus" combination of DNA, ever!

Martin when you die, you will be born again. Or put another way, Martin you will be cloned after you die.

Martin when you die, you will be born again. Or put another way, Martin you will be cloned after you die.

Even if fancifully so, would I know? Or rather, would the clone pick up my mental state and experiences from the moment that I had died?...

You can do that for computers and software. (Hence why I went into computer engineering: get it wrong and you can still hit reboot to get back to get it right. The wet squishy stuff has certain critical thresholds irreversibly leading to "game over"...)

So far however, we are a very long way away from being able to do that with squishy biological wet ware that has died and evaporated!


Keep searchin',
Martin

woah didnt know there was a such discussion here. since i never never put a feet in here, in politics^^

i should have been very bored to have made that click ! haha

my believes : a tons of caracters in old texts decribe outsiders which arent from here, and everything, all desciptions are from people that werent used to see a modern world. i know.

but the problem about codes, there cant be any code after the first copy translated from the original language written by the old real owner of that text. and it s worst after thousands of translations based on the perception of the reader/translator.

yes we can read between the lines, but it s OUR perception of what it s written and whats its written between the lines ^^

9 billions of persons will have 9 billions of different perceptions. we are all unique.

yes i believe the gods and angels were unearthly, not coming from here, aliens.


clones:
everybody knows we arent only made of 'DNA' ! whats make an person, this person, it s everything that happended in all his life. all his DNA , yes! but also all his memories, all the events, all his thoughts, all the decisions he made, and all the decisions everybody made also all around him , all his life. a clone of a person cant be an exact clone of that person. unless all his history repeate itself every fractions of a seconds , all his life.

to do an exact clone you ll need the exact same clones of his mother, his father, his friends, his town, his world... and ... his same timeline. and even then you ll show him movies, and it will still be a stranger he is seeing. thats not 'him'.

you can make a new person with some base of DNA of an old person. but it will still be entirely a new person.


even if it would be possible...

it s not a question of 'been good' or 'been a bad person' when they say 'worthfully deserve to comeback' it would be a question of being an important person (and had cash in option^^)
a Jesus, a Moses, a Gandi, an Abraham Lincoln, a Coppernic, a Flemming... and also an Elvis, a Bill Gates, an Arabic petrol megalo...

and what the heck why would some 'gods' or 'aliens' would want to rez me ??
me who always been a bullet to the society ?


hell no.


9 billions of people multiplied by all our ascendances up to .... adam ? lol
even if there would be an earth somewhere as big as 100x Jupiter.... we would be like little fishes in a little can ^^
a can of sardines


conclusion:
- yeah probably we have been made by some aliens.
- no there is any 'code' in any copy made then after the original text/book well preserve and which has been written by the original alien who made it.
- yes you can make a new entity from old DNA but still not a clone.
- and no i wont be ressurected after my death. ^^
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... But the cloned YOU, will be taught about the YOU that exists today. ...

conclusion:
- yeah probably we have been made by some aliens.
- no there is any 'code' in any copy made then after the original text/book well preserve and which has been written by the original alien who made it.
- yes you can make a new entity from old DNA but still not a clone.
- and no i wont be ressurected after my death. ^^

That has always been postulated Robert, that if there were ET visitations in the past then apart from the locals trying to record that for posterity, you would think that they would leave some sort of message that would only be found when that society was sufficiently advanced to recognise it.

The old favourite was a marker of the far side of the moon which wouldn't be found until an unmanned probe went by at the earliest. Haven't found one yet. Parking something at one of the Le Grange points L1 or L2 is another, but we would have found that by now. Ancient stone buildings really don't cut it, nor do religious books, or Kilroy was 'ere type of stuff.

So what would they likely have left as a message, and one that apparently we haven't found yet?

Chris,
Why are the 150 Pyramids down in Egypt not proof that someone was here in the past doing something suspicious?

Remember Chris, no Pharaoh was ever found in a pyramid, so they don't know what the pyramids were built for, yet! ALL the Pharaohs were buried in the valley of the Kings, and carefully "preserved" so at a future date, DNA samples could be extracted and they could be cloned and brought back to life. The Pharaohs WILL live again. And when we clone the Pharaohs, people will revere them and treat them like Kings. They will be Kings again, and they will rule Egypt again!

THE PROOF IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU, if you just wake up and open your eyes!

John.

Really? Are you saying Tut was not found? Are you saying Tut was found outside his pyramid?
And you claimed before that no pyramid was entered before 1900, yet others say that they'd be looted for centuries, and Jedifray's was looted perhaps the most, when Romans actually took it apart, largely, stone by stone, to use the stones for other purposes.

Writing the bible would make ET a liar.

I have always said that I know that it is currently possible in Labs for animals to be cloned using DNA. If not already now, then certainly in the nest 2 years it will be possible to clone human beings. But that doesn't necessarily mean that we will do it just because we can. There are too many ethical issues against it.

Oh fer hecks sake, of course it is not going to happen!

In a few years, people will go into their local grave yards with mechanical excavators and they will dig up their dead relatives and DNA samples will be taken, and their dead relatives will be cloned, and brought back to life!

The Pharaohs WILL live again. And when we clone the Pharaohs, people will revere them and treat them like Kings. They will be Kings again, and they will rule Egypt again!

This is real, its happening right now.

Its about to happen in the next few years.

I do agree with Johnney and think that there is enough evidence to give some credence to the possibility that ET was here in the past. I think that maybe the last time was about 11,000-14,000 BC and maybe millions of years before that as well. Apparently there are genuine ribbed sole imprints in coal seams millions of years old. But most certainly they were not here 4004BC genetically engineering mankind.

Johnney asserts that Einstein was completely wrong and that he knows better. He says that black holes don't exist. He says there is no such thing as dark matter. He says that he has researched all this, teaching himself, without a basic uni degree or a PhD, and that scientists are making fundamental mistakes. How likely is it that some non-scientist guy from rural Ireland can be right and the whole of the rest of the world be wrong?

Its about to happen in the next few years.

1? 5? 20? 50? You can't or won't give an answer because you don't know yourself.

You clearly have a thinking brain within your head but it is running round in circles and not making much sense to the rest of us. So, Johnney, where else have you postulated your ideas and prophecies? Just only in Seti Politics, where you know it is basically anonymous and there is no real life comeback. Or stood on a street corner proclaiming the end of the world is nigh? Written to the local paper etc etc ?

So what is it?

You drink too much Guinness?
You are a religious zealot?
You are an eccentric?
You are in need of counseling?

Johnney asserts that Einstein was completely wrong and that he knows better. He says that black holes don't exist. He says there is no such thing as dark matter. He says that he has researched all this, teaching himself, without a basic uni degree or a PhD, and that scientists are making fundamental mistakes. How likely is it that some non-scientist guy from rural Ireland can be right and the whole of the rest of the world be wrong?

Sorry John, I think you need to buy a large container of tinfoil!
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Its possible, but i have no proof yet, that someone, or something, "external" to me is influencing the way i think. Its possible "someone" is "giving" me this information. But i have no proof of this. Its just a feeling. I feel like i am be influenced by someone that i cannot see. Someone is "guiding me" to find the right answers as i do the research. Its either that, or i'm very very clever. And i think i'm pretty average intelligence.