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Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 6669 Credit: 1,280,517 RAC: 674	Message 1292634 - Posted: 8 Oct 2012, 1:11:51 UTC
	Square Kilometre Array Radio Telescope Update ____________
	ID: 1292634 ·

Michel448a Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 27 Oct 00 Posts: 1136 Credit: 2,858,346 RAC: 97	Message 1292735 - Posted: 8 Oct 2012, 7:46:02 UTC Last modified: 8 Oct 2012, 7:47:38 UTC
	so why SETI doesnt get a copy of all these data and process them to check if any alien signals in it? :P ____________
	ID: 1292735 ·

Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 1481 Credit: 62,384,754 RAC: 87,104	Message 1292766 - Posted: 8 Oct 2012, 11:07:01 UTC - in response to Message 1292735.
	so why SETI doesnt get a copy of all these data and process them to check if any alien signals in it? :P Transport charges/logistics could be 1 reason. Cheers. ____________
	ID: 1292766 ·

Bernie Vine Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 5661 Credit: 14,105,698 RAC: 50,584	Message 1292792 - Posted: 8 Oct 2012, 14:07:50 UTC - in response to Message 1292735.
	so why SETI doesnt get a copy of all these data and process them to check if any alien signals in it? :P Someone would have to "pay" for the data to be copied, a fund raiser has just been held to purchase the HDD's and transport case necessary for getting data from Green Bank. No one has mentioned who will actually pay for these HDD's to get from Green Bank and back. Remember SETI@Home has no money to pay for this sort of thing and would have to rely on the ASKAP to donate everything. ____________
	ID: 1292792 ·

Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 6669 Credit: 1,280,517 RAC: 674	Message 1292802 - Posted: 8 Oct 2012, 15:03:06 UTC
	Maybe GPUUG could make initial contact with them & see what is possible. It would take a lot of work off S@H regarding their radar blanking as it's "radio-quiet". ____________
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Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 11987 Credit: 17,910,674 RAC: 60,262	Message 1292825 - Posted: 8 Oct 2012, 16:06:06 UTC - in response to Message 1292735.
	Another reason is that satellite time costs money. SETI@Home gets a free ride off anyone paying for the Arecibo satellite - anytime someone rents the satellite, the SETI@Home data recorder is running to collect data. SETI@Home is not likely to get the same deal from other telescope arrays. This means they would have to pay for observation time, which we all know SETI@Home has little to no money to pay for. Many donors are happy to give money for hardware upgrades or donate hardware directly, but it seems very few people are willing to donate the cash required to pay the SETI@Home staff or observation time on the satellites.
	ID: 1292825 ·

Michel448a Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 27 Oct 00 Posts: 1136 Credit: 2,858,346 RAC: 97	Message 1292846 - Posted: 8 Oct 2012, 17:24:01 UTC
	we dont need observation time, only a copy, or free ride. someone needs to do it if it s not seti then it will be who ? The location is ideal because it is 'radio quiet', or lacks man-made radio signals that would interfere with the antennas picking up astronomical radio signals. ... But will the telescope be looking for extra terrestrial life? 'It's not a primary of many of these surveys, but it's certainly a secondary goal that you almost get for free,' Boyle said. 'As you're surveying the sky, particularly over wide areas of sky looking for objects, you are also increasing the search volume for signals from extraterrestrial life.' it has been the SETI only goal to do that since 30 years and after all these years... they will let another grp to get all the credits ? Seti with all our computers has the most powerful computing force in the world that will never exist. someone needs to put his pants :P ____________
	ID: 1292846 ·

Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 11987 Credit: 17,910,674 RAC: 60,262	Message 1292865 - Posted: 8 Oct 2012, 17:49:20 UTC - in response to Message 1292846.
	Actually, you'll still need observation time to double-check any potential signals. But most of the world doesn't allow for "free rides". Arecibo may be a special deal. If they can get that deal with another satellite provider, then all the better for SETI@Home, but it shouldn't be expected to have a free ride.
	ID: 1292865 ·

Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 6669 Credit: 1,280,517 RAC: 674	Message 1292934 - Posted: 8 Oct 2012, 21:02:32 UTC - in response to Message 1292865. Last modified: 8 Oct 2012, 21:02:42 UTC
	That's why I suggested an initial contact. My view is: - "Don't ask, don't get". ____________
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Michel448a Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 27 Oct 00 Posts: 1136 Credit: 2,858,346 RAC: 97	Message 1293380 - Posted: 10 Oct 2012, 4:21:54 UTC - in response to Message 1292934.
	That's why I suggested an initial contact. My view is: - "Don't ask, don't get". yup dont ask ! ^_^ ____________
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