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Message 1291899 - Posted: 6 Oct 2012, 3:36:35 UTC
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SETI@home volunteer Mr. Kevvy has started a Weekend Fundraising Challenge to raise money for disks we need to transport data from Green Bank Observatory.

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Message 1291996 - Posted: 6 Oct 2012, 11:20:15 UTC - in response to Message 1291899.

No speek ingles,Spanish yes......no entiendo el mensaje que me mandas,¿no sera que he encontrado un mensaje estraterrestrial,y contactan conmigo

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Message 1292003 - Posted: 6 Oct 2012, 11:54:39 UTC - in response to Message 1291996.

SETI @ home voluntario Sr. Kevvy ha iniciado un Reto Fundraising fin de semana para recaudar dinero para los discos que necesitamos para el transporte de datos de Green Bank Observatory.

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Message 1292004 - Posted: 6 Oct 2012, 11:55:07 UTC - in response to Message 1291996.

SETI @ home voluntario Sr. Kevvy ha iniciado un Reto Fundraising fin de semana para recaudar dinero para los discos que necesitamos para el transporte de datos de Green Bank Observatory.

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En pocas palabras que el Sr.Kevvy, "solicita" ayuda y está este fin se semana recaudando fondos €€€€ $$$$$ para sustituir o añadir nuevos Discos duros.

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Message 1292006 - Posted: 6 Oct 2012, 11:56:25 UTC - in response to Message 1291996.

Translate.google.com was that so hard.

My Message:
I don't Speak spanish, so here is what you could have done instead of being single minded in you determination to have everyone speak spanish here. You could have used google Translate.

Spanish:
Yo no hablo español, así que esto es lo que podría haber hecho en vez de ser única determinación en mente que usted tenga todo el mundo hablan español aquí. Podrías haber usado traductor Google.

Your Message:
no entiendo el mensaje que me mandas,¿no sera que he encontrado un mensaje estraterrestrial,y contactan conmigo


Translated:
I do not understand the message you send me, could it be that I found a message estraterrestrial, and contact me

The message that you said you could not understand:

English:
SETI@home volunteer Mr. Kevvy has started a Weekend Fundraising Challenge to raise money for disks we need to transport data from Green Bank Observatory.

Spanish:
SETI @ home voluntario Sr. Kevvy ha iniciado un Reto Fundraising fin de semana para recaudar dinero para los discos que necesitamos para el transporte de datos de Green Bank Observatory.

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Message 1292007 - Posted: 6 Oct 2012, 11:56:28 UTC

que si le damos a este enlace. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69622 se vera perfectamente lo que quiere decir.
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Message 1292008 - Posted: 6 Oct 2012, 11:57:05 UTC

Ok!!!!
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Message 1292057 - Posted: 6 Oct 2012, 15:16:01 UTC - in response to Message 1292008.

Où presque... me manque tout autant qu'à vous, la partie de la francophonie... peu respectée elle aussi... Flûte a l'obligation de parler et lire l'américain... gens peu respectueux d'autres langues !

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Message 1292060 - Posted: 6 Oct 2012, 15:17:56 UTC - in response to Message 1292006.
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T'est un sacré trous du c*l... nous avons en suisse séparé une partie francophone des germains... Et ce n'est pas pour rien, croyez-moi !!!

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Message 1292069 - Posted: 6 Oct 2012, 15:42:02 UTC - in response to Message 1292057.

Où presque... me manque tout autant qu'à vous, la partie de la francophonie... peu respectée elle aussi... Flûte a l'obligation de parler et lire l'américain... gens peu respectueux d'autres langues !


Il n'ya pas vouloir manquer de respect aux gens qui parlent d'autres langues, mais la langue principale du forum est l'anglais.

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Message 1292131 - Posted: 6 Oct 2012, 18:00:50 UTC - in response to Message 1291996.

hola ami tambien me llegan en ingles y no entiendo un corno!! tengo que andar con el traductor google...ufa!!

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Message 1292159 - Posted: 6 Oct 2012, 18:58:37 UTC









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Message 1292160 - Posted: 6 Oct 2012, 19:06:39 UTC

Hello everyone,

Can we please keep this thread on topic about the upcoming fundraiser?

¿Podemos mantener este tema en tema sobre el próximo evento para recaudar fondos?

Thank you.

Gracias.

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Message 1292180 - Posted: 6 Oct 2012, 19:47:24 UTC - in response to Message 1292060.

Some of us speak many languages, even without Google Translate. I, for one, do not appreciate nasty comments about others, regardless of the language written.

Most of the people here are very nice and will work very hard to help everyone.
Please treat all others here as your friends unless someone proves differently.

Thank you! :)

(Please accept my apologies for not translating this perfectly into the other languages being used here.)

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Certains d'entre nous parlent de nombreuses langues, même sans Google Translate. Pour ma part, je n'apprécient pas de commentaires désagréables sur les autres, indépendamment de la langue écrite.

La plupart des gens ici sont très gentils et travaillent très dur pour aider tout le monde.
S'il vous plaît traiter tous les autres ici comme vos amis à moins que quelqu'un prouve différemment.

Je vous remercie! :)

(S'il vous plaît accepter mes excuses pour ne pas traduire cela parfaitement dans les autres langues utilisées ici.)

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Algunos de nosotros habla muchos idiomas, incluso sin Google Translate. Yo, por mi parte, no aprecian comentarios desagradables acerca de otros, independientemente de la lengua escrita.

La mayoría de la gente aquí es muy agradable y trabajan muy duro para ayudar a todos.
Por favor, tratar a todos los demás aquí como tus amigos a menos que alguien demuestre de manera diferente.

¡Gracias! :)

(Por favor, acepte mis disculpas por no traducir esto a la perfección en los demás idiomas que se utilizan aquí.)

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Message 1292219 - Posted: 6 Oct 2012, 21:24:44 UTC
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How many disk drives is actually needed or what size of data we are talking about? (...ok found 20x2TB :)
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Message 1292223 - Posted: 6 Oct 2012, 21:34:27 UTC

There is more information on this fund drive and the progress in the Number Crunching Forum:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69623
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Message 1292239 - Posted: 6 Oct 2012, 22:23:00 UTC - in response to Message 1291899.

I'm confused here, you want to "transport via disk"? Why would anyone want to "transport" anything with the options the internet provides? Obviously SETI has access to the internet. Didn't "disks" go by way of the Dodo birds? Surely they have internet access in West Virginia and a place like the Green Bank Observatory would have at least a T1 line as a minimum.

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Message 1292243 - Posted: 6 Oct 2012, 22:36:47 UTC - in response to Message 1292239.

AFAIK T1 meens 2Mbit up and down. At least here in Germany you can do better with VDSL up to 50Mbit down and 10Mbit up.......

Keep also in mind that data integrity is vital on any sientific project. So it would maybe be more complicate to ensure no corruption during transfer over the i-net then sending the data on drives.

As for Arecibo, the connection over there is not good enough for even thinking about it. It was mentioned sometime last year in a tech news.
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Message 1292249 - Posted: 6 Oct 2012, 22:55:01 UTC - in response to Message 1292239.
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I'm confused here, you want to "transport via disk"? Why would anyone want to "transport" anything with the options the internet provides? Obviously SETI has access to the internet. Didn't "disks" go by way of the Dodo birds? Surely they have internet access in West Virginia and a place like the Green Bank Observatory would have at least a T1 line as a minimum.


A T1 line is only 1.5Mbit/s, or 180KiB per second, far slower than the average cable or xDSL connection these days.

We're also talking about 40TiB of data that the hard drives can move. If the same amount was transferred over a T1 connection, it would take exactly 7 Years 2 Months 22 Days 11 Hours 27 Minutes 37.57 Seconds to transfer all of the data, and that's ignoring latency and "jitters". That means that for those 7+ years, the connection would be maxed out and unusable for the entire time.

Too slow? Let's get a faster connection! How about a T3 connection running at 44.736Mbp/s? That would take exactly 91 Days 0 Hours 41 Minutes 30.04 Seconds to complete the transfer, again assuming no latency issues crop up.

Still too slow? Let's get a faster connection! How about an OC-3 connection running at 155.52Mbp/s? That would take exactly 26 Days 4 Hours 26 Minutes 9.6 Seconds.

Still too slow? Let's get a faster connection! Let's assume that Green Bank has the funds to afford an OC-12 connection running at a whopping 622.08Mbp/s. That would take exactly 6 Days 13 Hours 6 Minutes 32.4 Seconds to fully transfer the data.

So obviously a dedicated connection would have to be setup so that this maxed out connection does not prevent volunteers from getting more work. A full T1 line still costs over $200/mo. At $200/mo, for 7 years of data transfer, it would cost SETI@Home $17,400 just for the single 40TiB run. If we switched that to the T3 line, that costs about $4000/mo on the low side, so it would cost (91 days = 3 months) $12,000 to transfer the single run. The OC-3 connection is about $20,000/mo on the low side, which is more expensive per bit than the T3 line. The OC-12 connection is typically over $45,000/mo on the low side, making it cost prohibitive to afford using an internet connection.

For this much data, hard drives are probably the most sensible way to go! You only have to pay for the hard drives once, then the shipping back and forth between the two locations.

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Message 1292263 - Posted: 6 Oct 2012, 23:40:47 UTC - in response to Message 1292219.

How many disk drives is actually needed or what size of data we are talking about? (...ok found 20x2TB :)


20 total for transport for the GBT
16 for Eric's Hydrogen Array

With that said we're always looking for hard drives. Servers, JBOD's, transport, the list goes on. They're always in high demand.
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