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Message 1290868 - Posted: 3 Oct 2012, 18:53:24 UTC - in response to Message 1290797.

There is a lot (and I mean a lot) of unmitigated sh*te broadcast on US TV. You really have to sift through to find the good stuff.


I hadn't wanted to say anything in case I upset anyone in the US. However having tried to watch US TV on several visits, I would say that our worst TV on a good day is better than most US TV.

Also it seems that "anything" can be advertised, lawyers, doctors, and lots of "wonder medical treatments". Because advertising has to be fair, the adverts spend more time listing the possible side effects of these wonder drugs than they do advertising. For someone who hates TV advertising it is really really bad. I am glad I can come home to bearable TV.

I would really hate the UK to go they same way. Long live the BBC and all means.


You won't offend me. I hate the majority of our programming over here; I hate watching TV advertisements, and I have watched the news with great interest in regards to the large media conglomerates trying to make time shifting (recording a program on a DVR to watch later while skipping ads) illegal.

I've been very tempted to just get rid my TV subscription altogether and just keep my internet access. Nearly any TV show I do watch can be found online anyway - but then I'm still forced to watch advertisements unless I obtain the show illegally (bitorrent), which I really don't want to do.

There are some decent shows on BBC that I've seen over here, but of the few really good US shows we have (House, M.D., The Mentalist, Seasons 1-6 of CSI just to name a few), I'd rather watch them! ;-D

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Message 1290871 - Posted: 3 Oct 2012, 18:55:56 UTC

You say "nutjobs". Two of the people featured in the BBC program came over as having real concerns about what happened that day. They spoke to experts and people who were there and then they started to question what they believed, and a third became totally confused as he found some of the theories he held as so important just did not stand up to the truth.

In my opinion none of them were "nutjobs" a bit weak and easily led yes.

Mistakes were made, it came out during the program that the police has said the 4 bombers had caught a particular train from Leeds to London, only to discover a year later that on the day that train had not run. Pretty basic stuff to get wrong. So these "nutjobs" as you say had questions that needed answers. Hopefully our society will always allow these dissenters a voice. It is what free speech is about.

As to whether 2 of these people were featured in a cable TV program about 9/11 seems it must have been pretty low budget, as I am sure a couple of weeks in the US would have yielded hundreds of people willing to explain why 9/11 and everything associated with it since was a "false flag" setup.
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Message 1290878 - Posted: 3 Oct 2012, 19:15:28 UTC - in response to Message 1290871.

That's what clubs, pubs & Internet forums are for.. Gives them free reign to spout their views.

Not for a Public broadcaster to waste public funds. more than likely, they just used it as a schedule filler.

Low budget cable channel? Really? Ferrying 4 Brit whackos around the US on a coach trip?

Hmmn, do you know who the travel agents were? We could do with such a holiday.
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Message 1291641 - Posted: 5 Oct 2012, 16:03:00 UTC

Oh dear, the BBC itself making the news....

25,000 BBC staff on "off payroll" contracts

HMRC cracking down on tax avoidance, while many of their colleagues in the Civil Service are doing just that!
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Message 1292097 - Posted: 6 Oct 2012, 16:58:34 UTC

I think I might have changed my mind:

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Red Dwarf is back. The TV cult comedy series, off the air for 24 years, popped up last night on the DAVE comedy channel. There are going to be six episodes, with many of the original cast and written by its co-creator Doug Naylor who turned the zany sci-fi creation into a hit in the 1970s and 1980s. Robert Llewellyn plays the mechanoid Kryten in Red Dwarf and Dave Cohen is the well known comedian and writes, who writes for Have I Got News for You and the sitcom Not Going Out.


How on earth did the researchers at Today get away with that?

For those not fortunate enough to have seen Red Dwarf, it was first broadcast on BBC in 1988 and ran through until 1999 (source).
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Message 1293564 - Posted: 10 Oct 2012, 19:15:05 UTC

Hmmn, not a very good week for the BBC.....

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Message 1293849 - Posted: 11 Oct 2012, 16:53:44 UTC

Absolutely hilarious! Good job the Yankees in Washington only let them go with just fines, otherwise the BBC would've ended up in the crapper.

BBC Crew held at gunpoint

Take note of who they were....

A comment from the article: -

"it was probably the worse day of my life, but I don't regret it" I have a funny feeling you've yet to realize the repercussions of your actions and would not be surprised if after you land back in the U.K. you'll find you cannot return to the U.S. ever again and I for one really hopes this happens. You come here from another country and break our laws if this isn't a cause to revoke your visa then it really should be."

That'll be nice if it happens!
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Message 1293933 - Posted: 11 Oct 2012, 21:08:35 UTC

Gosh, didn't know Area 51 a/k/a the Nevada Test site, was so open access. Only subject to arrest and fine. The signs on the fence for Edwards Air Force Base say that trespassers may be shot on sight. I think we know which one deals with real secret stuff and which one is operated as a tourist attraction.

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Message 1293939 - Posted: 11 Oct 2012, 21:17:31 UTC

That maybe so. But a point worth making is that anyone held at gunpoint is not, and should not, be a matter for hilarity. People can die in those situations.

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Message 1293959 - Posted: 11 Oct 2012, 22:43:05 UTC - in response to Message 1293939.

That maybe so. But a point worth making is that anyone held at gunpoint is not, and should not, be a matter for hilarity. People can die in those situations.



Oh most certainly! Especially when they're a public broadcaster ignoring military trepassing signs.....

Well Andrew Maxwell was the host & we all know that the Irish are as thick as 2 planks.....

....maybe that's why they were fined & not shot!
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Message 1294042 - Posted: 12 Oct 2012, 4:22:27 UTC - in response to Message 1293939.

That maybe so. But a point worth making is that anyone held at gunpoint is not, and should not, be a matter for hilarity. People can die in those situations.

Damn right. You don't mess with the military unless you are willing to forfeit your life.

And I'll put in another story from a Nevada air force base a couple of decades earlier. Open house. Guy driving a beverage truck. Imbibed a bit too much in the day while the base was open. Leaving the base he misjudged the distance and drove his truck into the wing of a strategic bomber parked on the flight line. MP's with loaded M=16's dragged his sorry butt face down in tarmac for a long time until the Base Commander decided to turn him over to civil authorities. I don't think a standard accident policy was going to cover the $1 million to x-ray the wing spar for cracks.

I did say this was a strategic bomber with a $280+ million price tag didn't I? Strategic as in START treaty, meaning someone had to call the Russians and tell this this improbable tail as to why it wasn't operational and they were putting another in its place. I don't know if the base commander had to retire or not.

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Message 1294053 - Posted: 12 Oct 2012, 5:10:17 UTC - in response to Message 1290271.

The quality of the BBC program is consistently better than US tv. Having lived with both guess what our favourite programmes on TV here in Canada are? The ones the BBC makes and sells abroad.

I miss the quality documentaries.
I miss News Night.
I miss the excellent quality drama shows that aren't ALL about cops/lawyers/crimefighting of some sort (seriously, there are other subjects for TV shows out there America!!!)
I miss the awesome ground breaking nature programs.
I even miss the so called "popular" dramas like EastEnders and Casualty which you don't realise how good they are until you see some of the utter pap shown on US tv.
I miss the comedy shows. I really miss them. There are very few good topical comedy shows here.

Oh BBC. I miss you, I want you back, they BBC world channel here just shows endless repeats of Top Gear. Whhhhhhy???

Get rid of the BBC and replace it with what? The only channel really worth watching here is HBO and that is a premium pay channel which costs more a month than the TV licence...and they repeat everything to death.

One of the reasons I chucked Cable.

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Message 1294101 - Posted: 12 Oct 2012, 8:54:46 UTC

How nice for a government run institution......

...Just what were those "editorial reasons"?

BBC to respond to staff concerns

hospitals investigate claims

"Mr Holt said: "I heard through his office, just in conversation, 'Jimmy's at it again' because he used to travel the country with his colleagues at the BBC."

So how about investigating the BBC as well?
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Message 1294111 - Posted: 12 Oct 2012, 9:26:50 UTC

All this is very sad and a lose/lose situation all round for absolutely everyone. The victims of the alleged abuses, fingers pointed at others for cover ups, a lifetimes reputation in shreds, and a shattered family. Tens of Millions were raised for charity which I think was genuinely done, but after the current revelations may now be seen as tainted money.

The allegations made must be investigated, and if proven true, action taken, but I hope that this will be done in everyones best interests. I don't think it will help much in this sorry saga to exacerbate open wounds more than necessary with a media circus.

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Message 1294709 - Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 11:02:51 UTC

Oh dear, turning into a right horribus weekus for the BBC......

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Who's next?
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Message 1296848 - Posted: 19 Oct 2012, 10:42:33 UTC

It seems many in the country agree with me.....

....What next Baghdad Broadcasting Company?

Sacked - no reason given

This comment states it all for me....

"Mike is a legend and been a true performer/presenter for many years. Shame on the BBC for their behaviour. They have got their priorities all wrong regarding who they pander to and overpay compared to who they mistreat and these are the main reasons that the BBC have become increasingly disliked throughout the country. More and more people are waking up to just exactly what the BBC are - and it's not pretty."

I haven't listened to Radio 1 for over 20 years. Found Radio 2 to be excellent.
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Message 1296949 - Posted: 19 Oct 2012, 18:28:26 UTC - in response to Message 1296848.
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It seems many in the country agree with me.....

....What next Baghdad Broadcasting Company?

Sacked - no reason given


Come-off it Mike Harding, you know as well as we do why you were sacked.

1). You don't chase after little girls.
2). You don't chase after little boys.
3). You don't grope the female staff.
4). You don't brag about bedding stars granddaughters.
5). You don't sleep with men.
6). You don't go in for wife swapping nor dogging.
7). Your neither a fairy nor a paedo'.

Your therefore a miss-fit, a serious risk to all those other BBC staff that do
enjoy all those things listed above.
In the eyes of the BBC your an oddity...so you know why you were sacked, we do!!
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Message 1296950 - Posted: 19 Oct 2012, 18:35:21 UTC

I'm not sure that post is very helpful at the current time Nick. I'm quite sure that the majority of the BBC's 26,000 staff behave perfectly properly.

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Message 1296956 - Posted: 19 Oct 2012, 18:50:05 UTC - in response to Message 1296950.
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I'm not sure that post is very helpful at the current time Nick. I'm quite sure that the majority of the BBC's 26,000 staff behave perfectly properly.


Satire o'l boy.......mind you the 26,000 staff aren't all in high profile
positions. Through it's incompetence, the BBC has opened itself to ridicule
and it will continue to get this until such time as it finally sorts itself out...
...or gets sorted out!!
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Message 1296968 - Posted: 19 Oct 2012, 19:51:24 UTC - in response to Message 1296949.



Love it.

Careful though Nick, the Minister is not amused!
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