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Message 1288259 - Posted: 27 Sep 2012, 0:47:18 UTC

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First-I am not talking about the Seti boards in any matter.

I have seen a lot of hostility between people everywhere (radio, tv, newspapers) simply because of different political ideaologies. I'm not talking simple disagreement but out-and-out mean-spiritedness.

I was raised to respect other political views even if I don't agree. It is very hard in this day & time to keep that stance with the negativity out there.

It's very frustrating to me.

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Message 1288322 - Posted: 27 Sep 2012, 5:40:35 UTC

My thoughts are I agree entirely. Me and you Blurf do not live in a 'swing state' so we do not have to deal with presidential race attack ads.

However, this election season, more than any I have seen in my life, the media and the American public seems to be taking sides to an extreme.

There is no more middle of the road apparently. Apparently it's all come down to "us vs. them" with each person deciding they are either part of "them" or "us".

Others on the boards have mentioned it used to be about picking the guy with the best plan and ideas. Now it's all about picking the guy that's "on your side"...

Truly kind of saddening to see how divided this country is.

Perhaps if politicians were about listening to the people, instead of listening to lobbyists, we could begin to see some common ground again, and once again see our divided parties work together to find "middle of the road" solutions...

I say all of this neither as a democrat or republican, but rather as an American.
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Message 1288323 - Posted: 27 Sep 2012, 5:41:56 UTC

Nicely put.

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Message 1288361 - Posted: 27 Sep 2012, 9:45:11 UTC
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I agree basically with Blurf and Ex. Over in the UK we are also seeing an unusual amount of negativity. Firstly it is the governments mid-term and it is traditional to take side swipes at them, secondly we are in a world recession and a local double dip recession, people are fed up with constantly tightening their belts with seemingly no end to it all. Lastly we have a press circulation war to survive, and the tabloids print lurid headlines of doom and gloom which sells copy, but disheartens the population.

But in relation to the Seti boards I will comment here. They provide an anonymous method for people to spout off about all their half baked ideas, their prejudices, their political leanings, paranoid fears etc etc in a "safe" environment. How many of them would say in public face to face what they say here? How many of them are angry young teenagers with no experience of life? How many of them are bitter old men with axes to grind? Unless they care to tell us we don't know. Some of the views I've seen expressed here would get you a fat lip in real life.

Perhaps if politicians were about listening to the people, instead of listening to lobbyists, we could begin to see some common ground again, and once again see our divided parties work together to find "middle of the road" solutions...

We are trying that very route with the coalition in the UK, but it's the first time in 70 years that anyone has worked like that since WWII. It is struggling at the moment but it is a signal for change. I agree with Blurf ....

I was raised to respect other political views even if I don't agree. It is very hard in this day & time to keep that stance with the negativity out there.

People of his and my age group were taught that way, sadly not any more it seems. We need more tolerance all round that is for sure.
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Message 1288437 - Posted: 27 Sep 2012, 14:05:43 UTC
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Message 1288479 - Posted: 27 Sep 2012, 16:38:04 UTC - in response to Message 1288437.
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It's the lies. It's the short-term thinking. It's voter apathy. It's the entitlement mentality.

The maker has generously given in the past without much complaint and is now at the breaking point because more and more is being asked of him.

The taker is biting the hand that feeds him harder and harder.

I'm not rich by any definition in DC.

I'm rich by definition of the EBT card holder.

My HOA dues are about to rise. (rising electricity, water, and grounds keeper fees, plus some in my neighborhood voted to have a "hot dog party" with the excess of funds last year.)

My local school district just had a tax ratification election raising my property tax to cover the short-fall caused by decreased funding from Washington and now they say they can hire 4 new teachers because of the tax ratification election. By the way, 12% of the voters in my district showed up to vote and it passed by only a couple dozen votes.

My city is claiming the drought last year is straining the budget because of dead trees. The answer? Higher taxes.

My county just lowered the ad valorum tax by 0.25% but because property values went up, they now have an additional $750K in the budget next year. The commissioner can rightly claimed he lowered taxes even though I'm going to give him more money this year than I did last year.

Thank GOD Rick Perry is saying he's committed to cutting state spending instead of raising sales tax. I think the state house is going to follow along. I hope. The liberals down in Austin will viciously attack him for cutting the budget, starving childred and grandma and cutting education.

And then we have those in Washington DC who are now inflating the dollar at a continuous rate of $40B/month, they spend $1T more each year than they take in, and they think they can fix everything by taxing the rich more.

Why is there more and more intolerance? Beats me!

It's also the pointing of fingers... I'm just saying

Oh and a bit of blame and shame.
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Message 1288485 - Posted: 27 Sep 2012, 16:55:35 UTC - in response to Message 1288437.

Guy, I thought it was really cool when Gov Perry cut your state's fire fighting funding in a La Nina year, (drought in your part of the world), 2 years ago. You got the drought followed by a record fire season. He then asked who could have seen this coming? The answer was the weather scientists. Enlightened leadership I think not.
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Message 1288486 - Posted: 27 Sep 2012, 16:58:31 UTC - in response to Message 1288485.

he did get stricter HIPAA regulations than the Fed. Oh and increased fines for failure to comply
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Message 1288487 - Posted: 27 Sep 2012, 16:59:19 UTC
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Message 1288488 - Posted: 27 Sep 2012, 17:01:49 UTC - in response to Message 1288487.

Ya, weather guys... they always get it right.

LOL, 50% of the time. AND still get to keep their jobs. [smile]

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Message 1288496 - Posted: 27 Sep 2012, 17:26:10 UTC - in response to Message 1288488.

Well, that is a higher standard than politicians meet. <smile>

Ya, weather guys... they always get it right.

LOL, 50% of the time. AND still get to keep their jobs. [smile]

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Message 1288504 - Posted: 27 Sep 2012, 17:35:06 UTC - in response to Message 1288496.

Well, that is a higher standard than politicians meet. <smile>

Ya, weather guys... they always get it right.

LOL, 50% of the time. AND still get to keep their jobs. [smile]


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Message 1288529 - Posted: 27 Sep 2012, 18:50:19 UTC - in response to Message 1288487.
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Ya, weather guys... they always get it right.

Actually they are getting pretty good.
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Message 1288540 - Posted: 27 Sep 2012, 19:47:30 UTC

Perhaps not a good time to mention that I was one of them weather guys when I was in the Air Force.
If my satire is stepping over the line, please tell me and we can come to an agreement. I always thought that humour beat hate every time.

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Message 1288549 - Posted: 27 Sep 2012, 20:37:21 UTC

As long as the discussion in my thread doesn't turn into slamming each other, I am fine.
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Message 1288561 - Posted: 27 Sep 2012, 21:17:23 UTC

There is no reason why that should happen Blurf. I think those here take your drift.

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Message 1288562 - Posted: 27 Sep 2012, 21:18:44 UTC
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the art of negotiation requires both sides to agree to compromise. For the benefit of all the middle must be found. One side telling the other that the basis of negotiation is saying no to everything or stating that they will not compromise negates negotiations.

It then becomes the need of the others to do their best to find a middle ground and run with it. Lacking negotiations one side is forced to decide for both sides. This is also not good for exactly the opposite reasons.


Again, having a group decide to say no to everything defeats a Congresses ability to create law and make the middle the norm. Extremes on both sides are being seen and I get tired of hearing about it.

A stranglehold on negotiations is not negotiations. Its hostage taking. The people that are hostage and the citizens these gentlefolk represent. If I found myself in a room full of individuals that walked in lockstep. I'd start asking for DNA samples to check for clones. Noboby agrees all the time and certainly districts have different needs. I assume the representatives know this. Yet they conveniently disregard district needs for political needs.

Why anyone would sign a paper declaring they won't do a specific think regardless of a need is beyond me. Unless of course you are a priest and promise to not have sex...that one I think should be enforced
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Message 1288572 - Posted: 27 Sep 2012, 21:40:14 UTC - in response to Message 1288496.

Well, that is a higher standard than politicians meet. <smile>

Ya, weather guys... they always get it right.

LOL, 50% of the time. AND still get to keep their jobs. [smile]


The forecast, "The same as yesterday" is accurate 75% of the time.

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Message 1288573 - Posted: 27 Sep 2012, 21:43:56 UTC - in response to Message 1288562.

Noboby agrees all the time and certainly districts have different needs. I assume the representatives know this. Yet they conveniently disregard district needs for political needs.

If you want my Super-PAC money for your campaign you will vote exactly as I tell you or I'll give it to your opponent. Multiply with Citizens United and stew though an election cycle.

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