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Message 1295365 - Posted: 14 Oct 2012, 22:11:35 UTC - in response to Message 1295312.  

Exactly how sure are you that Jesus wasn't slipping in a literal statement about cloning

Just how sure are you that he was? Any evidence?

Yes, i do have evidence Chris, you know i do. And i have told you numerous times, i'm decoding and translating the information. As i said, this takes time.

that would would only be understood by the final and last generation of Human Beings on Earth

Oh, so we are all going to be wiped from history are we? When is this going to be? Where do you get that interpretation from? I thought we were going to be promised eternal life. That's bit of a bummer.

Lets be clear here Chris,
NOBODY promised you eternal life!!
The Bible is very clear. People who follow God's commandments will have their chromosomes modified so that their lifespan is massively increased, in effect, making them immortal.


So they won't be clones after all?

You Chris, have personally slandered God and made a mockery of the word of God on these message boards. So Chris you will reap what you sow when you meet your maker. I won't be your judge, it will be other people who you already know.

just before he returns.

Got any timescales? "It will happen very soon" is not going to cut it around here any more. If I say I'll see you soon to a friend, that would probably mean in a few days. If I say to a colleague we must meet for lunch soon, that could mean a few weeks. The Bible reckons the earth and humans has been around for 5000 years, so soon in that context could be a few hundred years away. Convenient get out.

There used to be a famous chap in the 1980's that walked up and down Oxford Street in London wearing sandwich boards that proclaimed "the end of the world is nigh, repent all ye sinners". Come rain or shine he was there. A local eccentric totally off his trolley, but was amusing for the tourists. If you genuinely believe all that you are saying, then why are you wasting your time on these boards? Wouldn't you be better off being a lay preacher somewhere?

Chris,
I have already answered this question for you many times. NOBODY has a timescale, no more than anyone can give YOU a time and date for when you are going to die. The Bible specifically says "No man will know the time".

John.


You're the one that states their reading from the scolls/books of God as foretold in Revelation. When do you plan to do this?
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1295493 - Posted: 15 Oct 2012, 9:52:16 UTC

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These are NOT my "beliefs". I said before, i actually don't believe it myself, i struggle to accept my own scientific findings. I'm still in shock almost 2 years after finding it out. Even thought i hold the "proof" in my hands, its so shocking that, like everyone else here, i refuse to believe it until i see it with my own 2 eyes. I know its possible to raise the dead through cloning, but its such a shockingly real thought, i'm not going to believe it until i see one of my dead relatives standing in front of me in the flesh.

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Message 1295507 - Posted: 15 Oct 2012, 10:50:47 UTC
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What does "The End of the world" mean?

I just want to talk about "The end of the World" and clarify what it means in the Bible.

In many places, the Bible actually uses the term "The end of the world". In the bible, the term "The End of the World" does NOT mean that the whole universe will end and blow up. And neither does it mean that planet Earth with blow up or disappear into the abyss.

In the bible, the term "The End of the World" is about human cloning. Its about the end of "humanity" or the end of the species of living creature called "Homo sapiens", thats us! As i said here already, humanity is on the brink of the era where we are about to start resurrecting the dead through human cloning. Quite literally, very soon, people all over the world will go into their local grave yards with mechanical excavators and exhume their dead relatives to extract a DNA sample from the bones, to clone the person and "resurrect" them. As far as i'm aware, the biblical Book of Revelation calls this "The great tribulation" because its going to be a very distressing time for everyone. People who read the Bible will be ready for this. But everyone else will just be left in pure confusion not knowing what's going on.

So what does the "End of the world" mean?

Many of you have heard of "genetic traits" or illnesses that get passed on from one generation to the next. These are caused by mutations in your genes, or your DNA code.

During the resurrection, DNA samples will be taken from the dead. But you can't just clone the person from the sample because the DNA sample will have many "DNA mutations" that would just cause sickness. So before you clone the DNA sample, the DNA mutations must be repaired before hand. So each sample is analysed and all the flaws or mutations that have accumulated in the persons DNA will be "spliced out" and replaced with fully functioning DNA. This means the resurrected person will not get sick any more. In effect, the new generation of cloned people will be completely free from genetic flaws. There will be no more sickness.

This subsequent "repairing" and "updating" of peoples DNA will effectively make the person a different species. While people will still be the same person, they won't have any flaws in their DNA. But this means that we won't be the species called "Homo sapiens" any more. Scientists will just invent a new name for the species like "Homo sapiens 2.0 repaired". Its a bit like producing a new version of any computer software. We will be going from "Homo sapiens 1.0" to the new version "Homo sapiens 2.0".

It will take over a hundred years to complete this DNA update to humanity because everybody will have to get the update. So people born today will have to be let to live out their full human life before they get cloned and get the update. So once it starts, it will take over a hundred years to complete. But by the time its finished, there will be no "Homo sapiens 1.0" left. Everyone will have the new "Homo sapiens 2.0" DNA code.

That is what the Bible means when it talks about "The end of the world" or "The end of humanity". There will be no more of the original "Adam & Eve" species of human beings. We will have become a new and stronger species. But on the outside, everybody will look and act exactly the same. You won't be able to tell the difference between the original person and the new, updated person.

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Message 1295536 - Posted: 15 Oct 2012, 12:27:47 UTC - in response to Message 1295507.  

But on the outside, everybody will look and act exactly the same. You won't be able to tell the difference between the original person and the new, updated person.
John.


How boring! In that case, I don't wanna come back!
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Message 1295546 - Posted: 15 Oct 2012, 13:12:40 UTC - in response to Message 1295545.  

Aw c'mon Chris, you gotta admit that in this depressing economic situation the world finds itself in, anything that brings us a chuckle or two has to be worth it...... :)
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Message 1295557 - Posted: 15 Oct 2012, 13:24:28 UTC

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The Jews know this is coming. The Vatican knows its coming. The Israeli government are currently making preparations for the event. The whole Islamic world has also been preparing for this event. The world has, and still is, going through the greatest single Islamic uprising in the whole of human history. Its been called the "Arab spring" and its still happening today. It started in Tunisia in 2010, and quickly spread to Egypt, Libya and at least 10 other middle eastern nations. All this is in the Book of Revelation, its all happening right on schedule. They all know what's about to happen because its written down in their religious books. The people who can't see this happening are people who reject the bible.

Its happening right now, on your TV screens every day, on every news channel, but you won't understand it if you have never tried to understand the bible.

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Message 1295560 - Posted: 15 Oct 2012, 13:42:08 UTC - in response to Message 1295558.  

Yeah, you'll be ok. It won't be a question of discussing religion, you'll be too busy enjoying our laid back attitudes, food & drink, as well as the beauty of the country (& it's beauties)....:)
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Message 1295566 - Posted: 15 Oct 2012, 13:52:43 UTC - in response to Message 1295558.  

I know what you are saying Sirius. We have all seen local eccentrics that live on their own in reclusive lives, happy in their own little dream world. But this guy seems to have a bit more intelligence than that. I would rather laugh with him than at him.

Thanks Chris,
I take that as a compliment!

But you see what I mean?

The Israeli government are currently making preparations for the event.

I happen to know the town he lives in because when I went to Ireland a few years ago to visit County Mayo, there was a possibility I might have gone further South. He said he would buy me a pint if I ever got there. One day I might, just might, still just take him up on that. Hope I would get out alive!

If you are coming over across the water, the offer still stands. I will buy you a pint and we can have a laugh about this in the pub :)

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