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Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Well, considering that I originally trained to teach at the secondary level (12-18 year olds), I never heard of men returning from WWII to become teachers in large numbers here. Thanks, WK. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Not exactly true, the student was deferred if they were in a field of study deemed to be useful to the war effort , such as medical students, I don't believe English majors had the deferment. I know my father was premed and upon graduation he was commission a 2nd lt. and then offered the chance to resign the commission, be drafted and stationed as a private at medical school. Not a bad deal, the army paid tuition, books, room and board and paid him a private's salary. The worst part was he had to wear a uniform to class. |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
Women at work: 'Forget the balance. This is the merge' Interesting article on why women are having trouble breaking the glass ceiling along with some disheartening research on gender bias in the workplace. Of course most of us are aware that this happens, but it is sad to see it confirmed. "... Babcock's research helped spawn an industry of advice books intended to toughen women up: Nice Girls Don't Get The Corner Office; Play Like A Man, Win Like A Woman; Stop Sabotaging Your Career. But the academic research was taking a curious turn. Study after study found that women who did not conform to female stereotypes – who bluntly asked for a raise, self-promoted or demanded credit for work they'd done – paid a high price in the workplace. People judged them as harsh or unpleasant, and didn't want to work with them. Researchers tested different workplace scenarios, always with the same result: women who speak aggressively get lower marks than women who speak tentatively. Women who self-promote are judged to lack social skills. Ditto for women who express any kind of anger in the workplace. In one scenario, some colleagues were about to go to an office party when another showed up in a last-minute panic over a broken photocopier. He needed help manually stapling 500 sets of the pages he had copied. The women who said no and went off to the party were marked down. Men who did the same were not judged at all. For men, behaving in a friendly, communal way was optional. For women, it was mandatory. Perhaps the most dispiriting experiment was conducted in 2004 by Madeline Heilman, a psychologist at New York University. Heilman handed out a packet giving background information about a certain employee who was an assistant vice-president in an aircraft company. In some cases, the employee was described as not yet having received a performance review. In other cases, the employee had gone through the review and been deemed a "stellar performer" or a "rising star". The only other difference was that in some cases, the employee described in the packets was "Andrea" and in others "James". Among those who believed the employee had not yet received a review, Andrea and James were judged equally. But among those to whom the employee had been described as a "rising star", there were vast differences in response. People judged rising star Andrea as far less likable and far more hostile than James; in fact, the Andreas were judged to be "downright uncivil", Heilman says, even though there was no information provided to support that view. Subjects merely assumed that "Andrea" must have done some nasty things along the way in order to break through in such a male-dominated field. ..." Reality Internet Personality |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
Don't know if anyone here saw the video of Julia Gillard (the Australian PM) lay into her opponent for his chauvinism, but it's worth a watch. Julia Gillard: Australia's PM comes out fighting Reality Internet Personality |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Don't know if anyone here saw the video of Julia Gillard (the Australian PM) lay into her opponent for his chauvinism, but it's worth a watch. Definitely worth a watch. Nice one Julia, good sense, common sense. Care to switch countries? We could do with you over here! |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
Reality Internet Personality |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
oooh, that's gonna hurt! After all the hassles of the late 19th & early 20th Centuries over the issue of Men Only clubs, the tables are turned...... No Men Allowed! |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
oooh, that's gonna hurt! After all the hassles of the late 19th & early 20th Centuries over the issue of Men Only clubs, the tables are turned...... The old boy's networks are still unfortunately alive and well. Hopefully this will help redress the balance. Perhaps when* we have equal amounts of men and women in the top executive jobs we won't need things like this. *I'm an optimist. Reality Internet Personality |
Terror Australis Send message Joined: 14 Feb 04 Posts: 1817 Credit: 262,693,308 RAC: 44 |
oooh, that's gonna hurt! After all the hassles of the late 19th & early 20th Centuries over the issue of Men Only clubs, the tables are turned...... BFD. There have been "Women Only" clubs around for a long time. The difference is they have received no publicity because men have no interest in joining them, either for personal or political reasons. T.A. |
Terror Australis Send message Joined: 14 Feb 04 Posts: 1817 Credit: 262,693,308 RAC: 44 |
The old boy's networks are still unfortunately alive and well. Hopefully this will help redress the balance. Perhaps when* we have equal amounts of men and women in the top executive jobs we won't need things like this. And there are no such things as "Old Girls" networks ??? Can someone please explain why in corporations that are run by a female CEO (e.g. The Westpac bank and Gina Rinehart's Giga dollar mining company), most of the senior executives are men ? Why don't powerful women support other women ? T.A. |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
The old boy's networks are still unfortunately alive and well. Hopefully this will help redress the balance. Perhaps when* we have equal amounts of men and women in the top executive jobs we won't need things like this. These are very good questions. I think it has something to do with the type of woman who ends up in those senior roles. To get through that glass ceiling as a woman I suspect you have to be more ruthless than a man with the same abilities. There can also be a certain degree of proving that you are strong enough to be there so in a sense being more "manly" than a man. I am pretty sure that there are woman at the top who would like to see more woman at the top, but the barriers to that are actually pretty complicated. For example a lot of successful business men don't need to chose between having a career and a family. Why not? Because they have a wife to take care of the family so that they can take care of the business side of things. It's quite difficult for a woman to find a wife to support them, although more men are quite happy to step into this role there is still a long way to go. So for a woman to be super successful she generally has to make a choice between children and work. So to get more woman into those top positions we need to change the way work is done. There is no reason that there can't be a successful balance between home and work life, it has just never been set up that way. Any woman getting that far ahead is going to meet resistance to change until there are more woman there. So a successful woman might want to have more women working with her, but they aren't offering themselves up as they have given up long before they get to that point. Reality Internet Personality |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19062 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Here's the report you were looking for, The Third Billion As growing numbers of women enter the economic mainstream, they will have a profound effect on global business. |
soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6497 Credit: 34,134,168 RAC: 0 |
you will find the female CEO's answering to a predominantly male Board, almost without exception. To even think it is fair getting there, is naive at best. Janice |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
Something is very wrong in Republican politics at the moment. People might ask me why I should give crap about what happens in America. Well, I'm 30 mins away from the border and I don't want to see the region destabilised by fundamentalist Taliban style nutjobs. If they get away with this bullsh*t in the US how long before it spreads up here? Tina Fey on some of the sheer ignorance touted by Republican politicians Reality Internet Personality |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Something is very wrong in Republican politics at the moment. But it is what GOD had commanded! Religious nutcases need to be put into rubber rooms so they can not harm others with their claptrap. |
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