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Message 1295020 - Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 23:46:12 UTC - in response to Message 1294737.  

For a couple of days I have serious connection problems. First I had v. 6.10 running and now 7.0.28. I had hundreds of DL's in the pipeline, but none even began (and this went on for several days). I tried to abort and get new ones yesterday (after installing v.7), with the same result. Beforehand everything went just fine and I didn't change anything on the client. Other projects run smoothly without any issues. I have now - with SETI unavailable for me - given Einstein my CUDA power.

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Message 1295115 - Posted: 14 Oct 2012, 8:11:13 UTC - in response to Message 1295020.  

For a couple of days I have serious connection problems. First I had v. 6.10 running and now 7.0.28. I had hundreds of DL's in the pipeline, but none even began (and this went on for several days). I tried to abort and get new ones yesterday (after installing v.7), with the same result. Beforehand everything went just fine and I didn't change anything on the client. Other projects run smoothly without any issues. I have now - with SETI unavailable for me - given Einstein my CUDA power.

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You are doing something wrong.....kiddo.
I have still been building kibble stores.
9 rigs all getting kibbles. I think they have filled to the brim.

Work has never been more available than at present.

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Message 1295130 - Posted: 14 Oct 2012, 9:01:47 UTC - in response to Message 1295115.  


You are doing something wrong.....kiddo.

Would be good to know what is wrong...
Client tries to DL WU's, but eventually fails and message says that internet access is OK (obviously) but project servers may be temporarily down.
Today I even tried to "reset": Disconnect from the project (thereby resetting all old WU's), then re-connect. Same results. Gets a couple of WU's, but DL is stuck and eventually the "internet access is OK" message comes. I already deactivated Antivirus and Firewall with no positive result.

Well, at least all other projects do what they're supposed to do... :/
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Message 1295148 - Posted: 14 Oct 2012, 10:31:08 UTC

Mowo, have u modified your windows "hosts" file in the past to specific download servers?
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Message 1295153 - Posted: 14 Oct 2012, 10:49:31 UTC - in response to Message 1295148.  
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Highlander,
Thanks for asisting :)
Mowo, have u modified your windows "hosts" file in the past to specific download servers?

No, I haven't modified the file (or any other). Months ago I experimented with defining a proxy, but since it didn't bring any performance improvements, have disabled that for long now. The download problem came unannounced and without any interaction on my part. At first I wondered a bit about the many files waiting to be downloaded, but since it had happened in the past and got straight by itself eventually I thought it would do so now as well. But since now it is unusually long, I am wondering about the reason.

EDIT: Now, as you mention it, I seem to remember I had modified it (though forgotten the path), but that was really long ago. Could it be that these entries there are now no longer valid due to a change at SETI? If so, could you point me to the file (and the correct settings) so that I might check?
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Message 1295158 - Posted: 14 Oct 2012, 11:01:37 UTC - in response to Message 1295153.  

Mowo I'd first make sure you don't have any proxy settings running. Then check to make sure your internet speeds are decent (I'm sure they are).

If you're worried about old settings it may be easiest for you to just grab a fresh copy of Boinc and your applicable files and start from there. I'm running stock 6.10.60 using Jason's 41x and I'm getting lightning fast downloads, 50-190 MB tasks per request. I picked up around 1000 tasks today in around an hour.

At any rate keep us updated. We'll get you sorted out :)



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Message 1295160 - Posted: 14 Oct 2012, 11:04:12 UTC

Why is it that I seem to be the only one with no problems?
None. Zero. Zilch. Zed.

I have 9 rigs. None have anything special going on.
Just hard ahead crunchers.

done for the night

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Message 1295161 - Posted: 14 Oct 2012, 11:04:44 UTC - in response to Message 1295153.  

Could it be that these entries there are now no longer valid due to a change at SETI?

Yes, indeed, the (some) server addresses have changed. The file in question is
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts

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Message 1295171 - Posted: 14 Oct 2012, 11:26:09 UTC - in response to Message 1295161.  


Yes, indeed, the (some) server addresses have changed. The file in question is
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts

That did it. That's what happens when you edit a file and then forgetting about it and its meanings...
Thanks a lot. now everything's up and running again :)
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Message 1295356 - Posted: 14 Oct 2012, 21:52:35 UTC - in response to Message 1295160.  

Why is it that I seem to be the only one with no problems?
None. Zero. Zilch. Zed.

I have 9 rigs. None have anything special going on.
Just hard ahead crunchers.

done for the night

Seeya.

Coz we iz sitin here quiet thinkin :
`If i sayz i got no problemz itz all gona go to to hell again`
So we iz sittin here quiet and contentdly crunchin ;¬)
Tick Tock Tick Tock KABOOOM........
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Message 1295544 - Posted: 15 Oct 2012, 12:59:53 UTC - in response to Message 1295161.  

Could it be that these entries there are now no longer valid due to a change at SETI?

Yes, indeed, the (some) server addresses have changed. The file in question is
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts

Gruß,
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Which ones have changed ?
These are the entries in my "hosts" file
208.68.240.13	boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu		# S@H Download Server
208.68.240.18	boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu		# S@H Download Server
208.68.240.16	setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu	# S@H Upload Server
208.68.240.20	setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu	# S@H Scheduling Server

Does anything need changing ?

T.A.
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Message 1295548 - Posted: 15 Oct 2012, 13:14:37 UTC - in response to Message 1295544.  

Could it be that these entries there are now no longer valid due to a change at SETI?

Yes, indeed, the (some) server addresses have changed. The file in question is
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts

Gruß,
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Which ones have changed ?
These are the entries in my "hosts" file
208.68.240.13	boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu		# S@H Download Server
208.68.240.18	boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu		# S@H Download Server
208.68.240.16	setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu	# S@H Upload Server
208.68.240.20	setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu	# S@H Scheduling Server

Does anything need changing ?

T.A.

If your ISP has a reasonably reliable DNS server, you should comment all those out *except* during a failure episode when some special handling is needed. Usually, that would mean locking downloads to one of the round-robin pair, if the other was known to be having problems.

I'm not sure exactly what the defined behaviour is when the same url is listed twice in a hosts file, but I suspect you may have locked downloads to 208.68.240.13 ('slow but steady') only, and - conveniently - bypassed 208.68.240.18 ('now withdrawn from service') completely.

If you want to be ready for the next breakdown, replace 208.68.240.18 with 208.68.240.21 - but comment it out.
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Message 1295556 - Posted: 15 Oct 2012, 13:21:30 UTC - in response to Message 1294737.  

I reckon if anyone doesn't have enough work then the problem is on their end.

Cheers.

Wish I could work out what -- I'm only getting two tasks/request on my fastest machine and not much more on the others, in general.
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Message 1295640 - Posted: 15 Oct 2012, 16:39:10 UTC - in response to Message 1295637.  

Batten the hatches folks. Smooth sailing is over. AP's are being split again. Expect lots of complaints about slow downloads, no new tasks, can't report, slow uploads, no more coffee, bad times in general. :-)

What's odd is that the Cricket graph has not maxxed back out yet. Normally see that as soon as AP cranks back up. Maybe things were going good enough over the weekend that many MB caches are full. I know the kitties got about everything they needed.

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Message 1295644 - Posted: 15 Oct 2012, 16:47:25 UTC - in response to Message 1295642.  

Batten the hatches folks. Smooth sailing is over. AP's are being split again. Expect lots of complaints about slow downloads, no new tasks, can't report, slow uploads, no more coffee, bad times in general. :-)

What's odd is that the Cricket graph has not maxxed back out yet. Normally see that as soon as AP cranks back up. Maybe things were going good enough over the weekend that many MB caches are full. I know the kitties got about everything they needed.


I guess there are lots of AP only machines, which has been asking for AP's for days, and Boinc has gone into long pending/deferred hours. They'll come back asking for AP's, and when they do, all h*** will break loose.

Dunno...if few were asking for AP work, I would expect the server status page to show some AP ready to send being built up and I don't see that happening yet either.
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Message 1295649 - Posted: 15 Oct 2012, 16:54:38 UTC - in response to Message 1295646.  

Batten the hatches folks. Smooth sailing is over. AP's are being split again. Expect lots of complaints about slow downloads, no new tasks, can't report, slow uploads, no more coffee, bad times in general. :-)

What's odd is that the Cricket graph has not maxxed back out yet. Normally see that as soon as AP cranks back up. Maybe things were going good enough over the weekend that many MB caches are full. I know the kitties got about everything they needed.


I guess there are lots of AP only machines, which has been asking for AP's for days, and Boinc has gone into long pending/deferred hours. They'll come back asking for AP's, and when they do, all h*** will break loose.

Dunno...if few were asking for AP work, I would expect the server status page to show some AP ready to send being built up and I don't see that happening yet either.


Hmm, AP's disappeared from splitting again. Better just wait and see what happens.

Something odd there. Usually AP datasets take a long time to split and send. I suspect little AP work was generated from these few.

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Message 1295675 - Posted: 15 Oct 2012, 17:34:09 UTC - in response to Message 1295556.  

I reckon if anyone doesn't have enough work then the problem is on their end.

Cheers.

Wish I could work out what -- I'm only getting two tasks/request on my fastest machine and not much more on the others, in general.

Gah! Finally realised that my disk usage was 1.5 GB, hitting the limit; upped it to 10 GB and jobs started flowing... Turns out that when I was playing with BOINC versions in August I'd screwed up and "lost" 3000 WUs, which were reported as errors but not deleted from my project area!
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Message 1296340 - Posted: 17 Oct 2012, 21:16:17 UTC

I just spotted that all the multibeam splitter`s are disabled
and RTS iz kinda low
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Message 1296351 - Posted: 17 Oct 2012, 21:29:41 UTC
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Still ~ 19,000 MB WUs available for D/L .. ;-)


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Message 1296360 - Posted: 17 Oct 2012, 22:06:40 UTC

Zero WU RTS
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