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Message 1308103 - Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 14:15:08 UTC

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Whether they are here now, or possibly were in the past is open to conjecture. Some people need to believe in aliens, others just like to. None of us have any credible evidence one way or the other. It's like a belief in a god, your personal choice of faith.

Any alien/ET civilisation that had the technology to visit earth, would be more than aware of what would happen if their presence was made public. Worldwide panic, breakdown of law and order, civil unrest, and some sort of military reaction.



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Message 1308114 - Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 15:29:25 UTC - in response to Message 1308103.

Julie,

Whether they are here now, or possibly were in the past is open to conjecture. Some people need to believe in aliens, others just like to. None of us have any credible evidence one way or the other. It's like a belief in a god, your personal choice of faith.

Any alien/ET civilisation that had the technology to visit earth, would be more than aware of what would happen if their presence was made public. Worldwide panic, breakdown of law and order, civil unrest, and some sort of military reaction.






Hard to imagine but that's what would happen indeed. If the aliens were peaceful beings, they would do anything to avoid that I guess...
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Message 1308133 - Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 16:31:01 UTC - in response to Message 1308114.
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Hard to imagine but that's what would happen indeed. If the aliens were peaceful beings, they would do anything to avoid that I guess...

There's no reason to suspect otherwise that aliens would be peaceful beings.
It's only our natural ignorance that leads one to postulate that aliens may
exist. Soon, no doubt, science will develope methods of detection that will
permit us to see if there is alien life out in the universe or that there has been
in the past. The chances though are pretty remote where long distances are
concerned, we will need to break the light barrier and go out in search for
our selves. At this point I don't think we're anywhere near getting over this
light barrier problem. It could end up that no one can get over this problem
and that super-fast space travel is an impossibility for all where ever you
reside in the universe.
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Message 1308184 - Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 23:40:08 UTC

One website indicates that the Milky Way Galaxy is "... about 13.2 billion years old". The Earth, about 4.5 billion years old. If any planets elsewhere in the galaxy formed earlier (i.e., there's still a few billion yeas to mess arounf with here), developed life, developed intelligent life, developed intelligent space-faring flight ... ? What's to stop them from making the long flights (tens of thousands of years) on inter-generational ships that have been postulated? And if that's the case, perhaps these far off or impossible technologies we're postulating would not even be needed.

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Message 1308308 - Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 11:21:06 UTC - in response to Message 1308184.

One website indicates that the Milky Way Galaxy is "... about 13.2 billion years old". The Earth, about 4.5 billion years old. If any planets elsewhere in the galaxy formed earlier (i.e., there's still a few billion yeas to mess arounf with here), developed life, developed intelligent life, developed intelligent space-faring flight ... ? What's to stop them from making the long flights (tens of thousands of years) on inter-generational ships that have been postulated? And if that's the case, perhaps these far off or impossible technologies we're postulating would not even be needed.

This makes the Milky Way as old as the whole of the universe? But does this mean
that there are habitable planets contained within that are older than Earth.
Inter-generation ships sounds nothing more than a museum in space and how could
you maintain it's functionality over this incredible time period of 10,000 years.
I don't think you could but then my knowledge on this is limited to what is
known to be achievable under current scientific probability. Not until we
ourselves make a scientific discovery that makes the afore gone possible, or
even being able to break the light speed barrier, could we ever genuinely
start to postulate that an advanced alien civilisation may at one time have had
the possibilities to have visited earth.
Until then I think alien visitations are to be treated as pure speculation bought about
by our vivid imaginations that engross the futuristic potential yet to be realised through scientific
discovery...Um, in other words, it's down to us being human as to why we think
of aliens about us for some see science eventually taking us along the road
to distant space travel hence we become aliens to possibly other life forms
out in the universe, that is if there are any others out there....I'd like to
think that there are others out there, but they are proving dam difficult to
find...using our current technology at the moment


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Message 1308314 - Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 11:55:26 UTC

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Message 1308329 - Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 12:38:48 UTC - in response to Message 1308314.
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Latest UFO news.

An alien abduction must have been going on somewhere? Strange that the two
much brighter lights that sometimes appear in the left hand screen he speedily
takes the camera away from them....Hmm.!! these may have given us a clue as to
what was really going on here.... skulduggery!!!
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Message 1308401 - Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 17:35:48 UTC
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If an alien abduction should exist, I don't think they would abduct you physically but rather your astral body.

http://paranormal.about.com/od/outofbodyexp/a/aa091007_2.htm

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Message 1308917 - Posted: 22 Nov 2012, 19:22:26 UTC - in response to Message 1308401.

If an alien abduction should exist, I don't think they would abduct you physically but rather your astral body.

http://paranormal.about.com/od/outofbodyexp/a/aa091007_2.htm

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I don't believe in any of this astral stuff, all dreamt up by people with
vivid imaginations trying to write and sell books with stuff they know can not
be substantiated in any way..... literary fraudsters.



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Message 1308931 - Posted: 22 Nov 2012, 19:43:53 UTC - in response to Message 1308917.

If an alien abduction should exist, I don't think they would abduct you physically but rather your astral body.

http://paranormal.about.com/od/outofbodyexp/a/aa091007_2.htm

(3rd paragraph)

I don't believe in any of this astral stuff, all dreamt up by people with
vivid imaginations trying to write and sell books with stuff they know can not
be substantiated in any way..... literary fraudsters.




Those people with a 'vivid imagination' certainly broadened their horizons I think.

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Message 1308945 - Posted: 22 Nov 2012, 19:58:11 UTC

Those people with a 'vivid imagination' certainly broadened their horizons I think.

Must live in Colorado then ;-))

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Message 1308949 - Posted: 22 Nov 2012, 19:59:56 UTC - in response to Message 1308945.

Those people with a 'vivid imagination' certainly broadened their horizons I think.

Must live in Colorado then ;-))




Hmmm...;)
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Message 1308961 - Posted: 22 Nov 2012, 20:08:43 UTC - in response to Message 1308931.

Those people with a 'vivid imagination' certainly broadened their horizons I think.


Providing of course the set horizon is realistically tangible in nature.


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Message 1309084 - Posted: 23 Nov 2012, 2:16:39 UTC - in response to Message 1287364.
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Wow, you must be bothered by the noise of the airplanes, no? I have an aunt living near Brussels airport and sometimes her house is even shaking because of the passing planes.

I spent part of my youth living on base at Naval Air Station Jacksonville, Florida. That was when jets flaming out on takeoff happened more often than I care to think about. We lived in the second row of houses off the end of the runway and I can remember dishes shaking right off the shelves. More recently I lived about five miles north of Orlando International Airport in line with runway 36R and the only thing that bothered me was the film of jet fuel and soot that covered my car at night.

I've seen a lot of lights in the sky at night but none I would attribute to alien spacecraft.
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Message 1309327 - Posted: 23 Nov 2012, 17:58:03 UTC

Strange lights over Highland, Utah.
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Message 1312244 - Posted: 7 Dec 2012, 18:56:38 UTC
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Saucer hovering over LA, Dec 5th
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Message 1312275 - Posted: 7 Dec 2012, 20:00:05 UTC - in response to Message 1312244.

Saucer hovering over LA, Dec 5th

Well, that one is blindingly obvious.

It's nothing more than a cruise ship.


Note how ALL "UFO" sightings are poor quality... Wondered why?...

Next?!

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Message 1312490 - Posted: 8 Dec 2012, 10:55:44 UTC

A cruise ship??
Looks to me like it's up in the air...
I think the poor quality is because people have to record it with their cellphones, it always comes unexpected and I don't think all people always have their camera with them...
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Message 1312588 - Posted: 8 Dec 2012, 15:04:27 UTC - in response to Message 1312490.

A cruise ship??
Looks to me like it's up in the air...

Take note of the context... Also as often is the case, it's dark and so you loose your frame of reference for distance...

It's big and way away on the sea in the bay/ocean. Look carefully, you can even see the funnel (exhaust stack).


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Message 1312659 - Posted: 8 Dec 2012, 19:03:25 UTC

Want an even bigger laugh?

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