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Message 1360081 - Posted: 23 Apr 2013, 0:30:42 UTC

Can you provide a link? I haven't heard of that. Not that it isn't authentic, but I haven't heard of that yet.

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Message 1360085 - Posted: 23 Apr 2013, 0:39:58 UTC - in response to Message 1360081.

No sorry it was a long time ago but I do believe that you can still find it on you tube but under what heading I can't remember but it is you tube !!! I didn't come across it there thou I was checking something else and ended up somewhere I can't remember but as I said make your own mind up
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Message 1360090 - Posted: 23 Apr 2013, 0:52:06 UTC
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I make up my mind all the time, and change it when warranted. What leads me to my decisions is evidence. I have no problem at all admitting that something I said was completely wrong, provided I have solid evidence to the contrary.

As for the ET conspiracy, I think the story is much more interesting that the factual information. Even if we were to have ET visitors, I would need to get past the physics of traveling what is certainly more than 100 light years, at speeds that are locked at a maximum of 186,000 miles per second, and dealing with time dilation, and the deaths of anyone left on the "home" planet by the time any visitor returned. The only way, given the huge distances that makes sense, is to have several generations embark on the trip, and several generations on the return trip. That doesn't make sense with them staying a short while, leave no concrete evidence, then heading back. It would be a bit more like this link.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/22/world/mars-one-way-ticket/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

The distances are just to huge. Even if I see something myself, I can't explain the physics, so I would be more inclined to come up with an explanation that fit the physics.

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Message 1360102 - Posted: 23 Apr 2013, 1:13:21 UTC
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I believe he is talking about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYmPFMB09fU. Check out about 7 minutes into it.
However, I think someone even convinced the UFO Hunter Bill Byrnes of a debunking of it.

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Message 1360230 - Posted: 23 Apr 2013, 6:30:54 UTC

Someone posted this on Fb. I don't know if it's real though. We would've heard much more about it...
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Message 1360270 - Posted: 23 Apr 2013, 9:04:32 UTC

What I think is more likely is that there have been instances of heavily investigated and documented, happenings and events, that simply cannot be explained by science and physics as we know them today. And yet there is no doubt that the phenomena occurred. Therefore the only two likely explanations are, a secret science breakthrough which is not generally known, or the science/technology that must have been used did not originate on earth.

Most major countries in the world have a fair idea of the level of advancement of each other, either actual or likely, and the sort of experiments being worked on. But when you see a UFO flying at 5000 mph that suddenly does a 90 degree turn, and zooms off at 20,000 mph it stretches credulity that it could have come from earth. Especially when Radar, tracking technology, and credible eye witness reports confirm the sighting. And no, we don't have a hollow earth with flying saucer exit holes at the poles!!!

It is reasonable to assume that if genuine UFO's exist, they will likely be remotely controlled drones rather than manned craft. 99.9% of sightings can be explained away, it is the one in a 1000 that can't that is the worry. I'd bet my bottom dollar that the USA and others have probably reluctantly accepted that there are such things as UFO's with the source yet to be identified. But they know what would happen if they publicly came out and said that. You'd have mass panic all around the world, civil unrest, looting, insurrection, that really would be WWIII.

Can you imagine an actual landing? Can you imagine the result if "they" admitted playing a part in the past in human development? Well, bang goes most of the world religions in a puff of smoke then. We have enough trouble with half the world wanting to kill the other half over religion as it is! But let's be sensible, any ET with the technology to visit us, which logically must involve faster than light speed, would have the intellect to realise all that, and behave accordingly. Unless of course we are talking H.G.Wells War of the Worlds.

I just wish I was 50 years younger, bearing in mind the increase in sightings, there is just a slimmest chance that in that time scale mankind might know the truth, sadly it won't be in my lifetime.

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Message 1360318 - Posted: 23 Apr 2013, 14:15:45 UTC - in response to Message 1360270.

What I think is more likely is that there have been instances of heavily investigated and documented, happenings and events, that simply cannot be explained by science and physics as we know them today. And yet there is no doubt that the phenomena occurred. Therefore the only two likely explanations are, a secret science breakthrough which is not generally known, or the science/technology that must have been used did not originate on earth.

Most major countries in the world have a fair idea of the level of advancement of each other, either actual or likely, and the sort of experiments being worked on. But when you see a UFO flying at 5000 mph that suddenly does a 90 degree turn, and zooms off at 20,000 mph it stretches credulity that it could have come from earth. Especially when Radar, tracking technology, and credible eye witness reports confirm the sighting. And no, we don't have a hollow earth with flying saucer exit holes at the poles!!!

It is reasonable to assume that if genuine UFO's exist, they will likely be remotely controlled drones rather than manned craft. 99.9% of sightings can be explained away, it is the one in a 1000 that can't that is the worry. I'd bet my bottom dollar that the USA and others have probably reluctantly accepted that there are such things as UFO's with the source yet to be identified. But they know what would happen if they publicly came out and said that. You'd have mass panic all around the world, civil unrest, looting, insurrection, that really would be WWIII.

Can you imagine an actual landing? Can you imagine the result if "they" admitted playing a part in the past in human development? Well, bang goes most of the world religions in a puff of smoke then. We have enough trouble with half the world wanting to kill the other half over religion as it is! But let's be sensible, any ET with the technology to visit us, which logically must involve faster than light speed, would have the intellect to realise all that, and behave accordingly. Unless of course we are talking H.G.Wells War of the Worlds.

I just wish I was 50 years younger, bearing in mind the increase in sightings, there is just a slimmest chance that in that time scale mankind might know the truth, sadly it won't be in my lifetime.




In mine neither I think :( It will be something for our great-great-great grandchildren...
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Message 1360416 - Posted: 23 Apr 2013, 22:51:56 UTC - in response to Message 1359768.
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Fireball UFOs Over Ireland: Clever Hoax Or Unexplained Objects? (VIDEO)

That looks exactly like very simple programming of a certain well known video after-effects package. There are similar examples elsewhere on the internet. (The give-away is the motion and the non-matching blur effects. The choreography is also rather stereotyped and contrived...)

Also note for something so audacious: How come noone else noticed at the time?

Compare that with this real UFO that 'buzzed' the UK city of Bath:


A loud bang which sparked a deluge of calls to emergency services across a large part of England...

Mystified residents across the West Midlands, Warwickshire, Oxfordshire, Somerset and Wiltshire reported hearing a loud boom at about 18:10 BST.

... responding to an emergency call.

A Coventry resident called Gary said: "I thought somebody had thrown a brick at the house."

He added: "When I went out there were quite a few people in the street wondering what it was." ...

... a number of organisations said they were investigating the origin of the sound.

Among them were Warwickshire Fire and Rescue Service, which received a flood of calls, and the British Geological Survey.

Avon and Somerset Police also said they had received reports of a loud bang in the area.

Some of those who heard it said the sound lasted a few seconds.

Tom Sykes, from Highworth, Wiltshire, said: "I was sat at my desk doing some work and it felt like someone had put up a massive bass speaker at my feet.

"I'm sure that they didn't move up in the air but they felt like they were with the vibration. I thought the window had come in." ...

... "I thought [the sound] was a commercial airliner and then I thought 'no way'," he said.

"We watched for a while and then we saw ... it was flying amazingly slow and we thought it was going to come down.

'Shook the building'

"It was doing really tight, slow circles and it suddenly put on full power and the noise was unbelievable, it was really blasting it out, and then it moved a bit further on and it did another slow turn.

"My impression was that it was struggling to stay up but then [it] put on full power again and you just couldn't hear anything.

"The noise was terrific, I imagine you could hear it for miles."

Another person who reported hearing the boom, who gave his name as Dave, from Warwick, described the sound as "like sitting on a hard shoulder and a big lorry going past".

"It shook the building and the windows popped," he added. ...


Spoiler on: BBC News: ... mysterious bang reports...



All a very silly fake.

All a waste of time and a piece of an old Irish yarn...


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Message 1360473 - Posted: 24 Apr 2013, 4:51:05 UTC

has anybody looked up Lasar's story I would be interested in find out what others think about it ! . Is her full off S#$T and a good b/s artist
He's the 1 whom clam's to have worked at dreamland but was fired and made a nonperson by the gov because he went to the press about what he saw there and thought the people needed to know the truth
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Message 1360798 - Posted: 24 Apr 2013, 19:00:33 UTC - in response to Message 1360473.

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'Sirius' Documentary Reveals DNA Test Results On Ata, The '6-Inch Alien'



The mummified remains of what looks like a 6-inch space alien has turned "Sirius" into the most eagerly awaited documentary among UFO enthusiasts.

The findings, however, might come as a disappointment.

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Message 1361211 - Posted: 25 Apr 2013, 23:39:32 UTC - in response to Message 1360798.

Lynn not complaining but I have not been able to go anywhere on your links they seem dead at my end .
Where did they find this so called Alien ?
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Message 1361285 - Posted: 26 Apr 2013, 5:54:33 UTC - in response to Message 1361211.

Lynn not complaining but I have not been able to go anywhere on your links they seem dead at my end .
Where did they find this so called Alien ?


Glenn, the link works for me. Try letting it load. I will post it again for you.


'Sirius' Documentary Reveals DNA Test Results On Ata, The '6-Inch Alien'



Dead Alien

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"Sirius" focuses on the remains of the small humanoid, nicknamed Ata, that was discovered in Chile's Atacama Desert 10 years ago and has, literally, gone through different hands and ownership since then.

Video also.

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Message 1361296 - Posted: 26 Apr 2013, 6:20:55 UTC

Looks more like a sculpture to me...
And then the question is, how did it get here and how could they find a small creature like this?
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Message 1361343 - Posted: 26 Apr 2013, 8:38:48 UTC - in response to Message 1361285.

Sorry Lynn did a upgrade a couple of days ago and now for some reason when I click the link the browser is't even looking for the info just goes back to the post gimme a couple of days to figure out wots going on .

Thanks for the picture and info i'll try looking outside the message board and google it , the picture make it look like a toy of some sort !

I'm am surprised somebody the scincetist's at those telescopes haven't seen anything up on that desart if it was only ten years but i'll google it to grt more info very interesting
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Message 1361348 - Posted: 26 Apr 2013, 9:00:01 UTC

What a disappointment it's human poor thing must have freaked it's peaants out lucky it servived for 6yrs oh well we'll just have to keep looking up come on ET we wish to communicate with you call us mate

Thank Lynn I googled it and cut and pasted a bit of your post cuse I would not have been able to spell the desart
Thanks you put up interesting things

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Message 1361812 - Posted: 27 Apr 2013, 13:26:21 UTC

I have very many serious doubts about this whole report. Anything born like that 100 years ago, mutated or whatever, would not have survived or been killed immediately. Sorry it's a con, if I am proved to be wrong I will happily admit it.

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Message 1362000 - Posted: 27 Apr 2013, 23:50:32 UTC - in response to Message 1361812.

Sirius Documentary by Dr. Greer, playing at some theaters. Don't bother to go see it. The little alien's age was 6-8 years old. Looked like a fetus to me. It only had 10 ribs. Spoof!!

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Message 1363086 - Posted: 1 May 2013, 5:39:51 UTC - in response to Message 1362000.

Tiny 'alien' skeleton: Puzzles scientists, 9 percent shows 'non-human' bones.


Teensy alien-looking skeleton from Chile poses a medical mystery

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Message 1363119 - Posted: 1 May 2013, 7:50:05 UTC

UFO film to provide proof that aliens exist
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Message 1363133 - Posted: 1 May 2013, 8:52:08 UTC

I don't know how authoritative that site with the report is, but it isn't a well known news agency e.g. like Reuters. They are already saying in advance there that they wont reveal where this evidence is, so how much credence can we put on it. It is known the the UFO fans who believe in conspiracy theories that the USA is covering up evidence, have some wealthy backers whose real aim is to undermine the government not find ET. This looks like hype to publicise the film.

In addition, given the population of the world, mutations happen all the time, in fact the Victorian freak shows couldn't have existed without them. Brazil baby USA Girls If the USA did have a UFO they would obviously go to great pains to hide the fact, otherwise, you'd have Russia, China, and others desperate to get their hands on it to reverse engineer the technology. If the film was any threat to public disorder I doubt that it would be shown anyway. It will just be another entertaining diversion. Good find though Julie.

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